First wins, then only losses

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zocker0815

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9th Feb. 2021, at 11:54 pm CET#51

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found the video

https://www.spielerhilfe.at/zackzack-spielerhilfe-interview-zu-casinos-austria-automaten-steuerung

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10th Feb. 2021, at 04:57 pm CET#52

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zocker0815 wrote on 09/02/2021 at 23:54: found the video

https://www.spielerhilfe.at/zackzack-spielerhilfe-interview-zu-casinos-austria-automaten-steuerung

Here is the website shown in the video: https://casino-automaten-gewinne.online/
Interesting, but a bit nebulous because,

a) what is the "direct source"? Players? Employees? Operators? Was it hand counted or is there a database?
b) why are small wins and Jackpot wins not recorded?
c) higher gaming frequencies on specific days are postulated, but not factually proven. At least the data does not show it. If you know exactly how much was won on a given day in a particular casino, you should also know how much was wagered?

Apart from that: Could you recognize a pattern in the graphs?

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10th Feb. 2021, at 05:41 pm CET#53

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Everything that was shown in the videos is quite normal

Of course, less big wins are posted on payday because 1) More people play and 2) Many people win small amounts

If on 15 no more people is there it is not surprising that there are the big things come because the payout must be achieved

And apart from that everything that has a computer is somehow controlled is even called computer controlled because it does not matter whether car, cell phone, smartwatch, even some toothbrushes are controlled

No one has to make the effort to monitor the things and decide oh this is new he must win now the programs of the machines provide all by themselves for the people to come back again

The automat decides everything completely alone thereby it falls back only to its given programmed points like payout ratio

Why does no one ever ask the question what kind of effort and how many people are needed to let "new players" win the effort no one would make if he gets so or so a pile of coal only if he lets the computer do it

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Ichbins2018

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First wins, then only losses

10th Feb. 2021, at 07:16 pm CET#54

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gamble1 wrote on 10/02/2021 at 17:41

Why does no one ever ask the question what kind of effort and how many people are needed to let "new players" win the effort would make no one if he gets so or so a pile of coal only if he lets the computer make

Had already written that somewhere here, made at that time a new hall on, strangely threw the things "all" what the stuff holds!
The die-hards knew exactly what was going on - and the "new" hall was full of well-known (well, the usual suspects).

This lasted for a few days (became worse/less from day to day) and then settled down again at some point
So after a few days as usual...first sink what the stuff held, until then maybe something comes

Whether it is the same online? you should not exclude anything, but I can imagine very well.
New players play similar to a Spielo, first on resettled/fresh software ...
At least that would explain why newcomers initially and almost always win...
Maybe one or the other tries his brain and can still remember?
Possibly it is also only a thesis...(online) - but what concerns offline halls, I have experienced in 30 years of gambling always in new halls!

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10th Feb. 2021, at 07:38 pm CET#55

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Ichbins2018 wrote on 10.02.2021 at 19:16
Had written this somewhere here before, opened a new hall at the time, funnily enough the things "all" threw what they could!
The die-hards knew exactly what was going on - and the "new" hall was full of well-known (well, the usual suspects).

This lasted for a few days (became worse/less from day to day) and then settled down again at some point
So after a few days as usual...first sink what the stuff held, until then maybe something comes

Whether it is the same online? you should not exclude anything, but I can imagine very well.
New players play similar to a Spielo, first on resettled/fresh software ...
At least that would explain why newcomers initially and almost always win...
Maybe one or the other tries his brain and can still remember?
Possibly it is also only a thesis...(online) - but what concerns offline halls, I have experienced in 30 years of gambling always in new halls!

With new devices, the program is also quite generous and operates customer loyalty that is often the case with newly installed devices and I advise everyone to gamble on these boxes

Of course, do not exaggerate there but my own experience now without coming with the professional around the corner is new equipment in 4 out of 5 cases directly after a short time 1,000 € plus on the speedometer my record is so somewhere between 3-4k on small arcade equipment that were newly installed mind you

The Pendelt of course then relatively quickly but there are the few poor souls already on the line as you want to have them

Online you can usually observe something similar when you look at new slots and the associated winning pictures that come in here alone little by little but as awesome as offline you do not notice that

Despite all this is all within the law and does not change anything about the payout odds that there is anyway not in arcades there refers to yes the only odds on the booking process since this is the actual game

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10th Feb. 2021, at 08:03 pm CET#56

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So I think it is a rumor that new machines throw well.
Since my experience says something completely different.

It is similar online, why do you see pictures and wins from new games? Because it just try many

I'm amazed every time you write about the arcade gamble1.

Unfortunately, the fewest statements of you apply, but I'm too idle to look for everything out.

And you write it all with a conviction as if you know exactly how the things are programmed

Sorry should not be personal but is just my impression

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10th Feb. 2021, at 08:12 pm CET#57

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Iknowyou wrote on 09.02.2021 at 09:47 clock: With all the discussions about Manipulation I always ask myself why then nevertheless continues to be paid in and paid in, if some are convinced that it does not go to right things

because everyone has the hope that it with him / her also times properly raushaut

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10th Feb. 2021, at 10:10 pm CET#58

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Blubbo33 wrote on 10.02.2021 at 20:03: So I think it's a rumor that new machines throw well .
Since my experience says something completely different .

Similarly it is online, why do you see pictures and wins from new games? Because it just many try out

I'm amazed every time you write about the arcade gamble1.

Unfortunately, the fewest statements of you apply, but I'm too idle to look for everything out.

And you write it all with a conviction as if you know exactly how the things are programmed

Sorry should not be personal but is just my impression.

Yes may well be that your experiences are different I do not deny but from the private side of me these are my experiences

From the professional side, it is of course easier to look at everything objectively in the gambling sector if the things are not just there for pleasure

Of course, we do not know 100% how exactly the things are programmed but you can already recognize some and the years of experience draws with time own already almost paintings I would like to say

That of course the players see the mostly different is known and no rarity to me often come people who ask me everything possible but they do not like the answers and at the end of the day it is then again just set rip-off in their eyes

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11th Feb. 2021, at 05:42 am CET#59

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A****m wrote on 04/11/2018 at 00:09: The more and longer you play(deposit) the more often you lose. At the end of the day you will always be in the red and lose more often than you pay out. No matter if you play OC, Spielo, Spielbank or Lotto, Poker (except if you hit a jackpot). Another problem of gamblers is that the values for wins shift. If you have often won a lot with little bet, you can no longer pay out small amounts and play back down to zero. 300€ pay out? Why it could still come what.

Right, the experience I have also made

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