First wins, then only losses

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TonioKroeger

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3rd Nov. 2018, at 10:01 pm CET#1

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Good evening, after I just had to read again that a certain OC initially distributed wins, then only losses, I would like to address this issue here, but do not know if it has already been discussed at some point. M.E. one can very often read the accusation - perhaps one can say: the experience - that new or newly registered players initially make good wins, but then only or predominantly lose. Many then believe that this is a typical strategy of the companies to retain customers, which, however, tends to amount to Manipulation and fraud. In my opinion, the explanations that can be read predominantly here refer to coincidence, selective perception, certain psychological aspects (anger, frustration, greed...), above all to the technical difficulty of realizing these processes. I, too, have doubts about the "angry" explanatory patterns, but, strangely enough, had to go through this frustrating experience several times and can't quite explain it. Sleepless nights were not only because of the losses (lost wins), but because I wanted to explain these progressions rationally and could not. Just three examples: At sunmaker, a company classified as reputable, I came shortly after registration from about 70 euros to about 10 K, at SlotsMillion from double digits to about 1.5 K, later, however, was only swallowed - and at the addressed company Unibet slowly suggests a similar course. So if it is not/can not be manipulation, fraud, which I now assume, what is the reason? Can it be just selective perception, annoyance with a tendency to conspiracy theories, or can it be explained otherwise? What experiences have been made, what explanations are there? Greetings

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upola

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3rd Nov. 2018, at 10:53 pm CET#2

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The topic has already been discussed extensively here
No one can really give you an answer, only guesses.
Perhaps a few more users will get in touch on the subject.

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3rd Nov. 2018, at 10:56 pm CET#3

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upola wrote on 03/11/2018 at 22:53

The topic has already been discussed here extensively
No one can really give you an answer,only guesses.
Maybe a few more users will get back to you on the subject.

Was already desöfteren discussed here the whole.
From my side, I can now say that it really holds the balance^^
Sometimes I sign up where and it goes well and sometimes bad at another casino.

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3rd Nov. 2018, at 10:59 pm CET#4

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tby333 wrote on 03/11/2018 at 22:56
Was already desöfteren discussed here the whole.
From my side, I can now say that it really holds the balance^^
Sometimes I sign up where and it goes well and sometimes bad at another casino.

Since I agree with you...So it is also with me... But that I had where newly registered and gleich richtg Big Win had, I've never had so far.

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3rd Nov. 2018, at 11:36 pm CET#5

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well... I report now times....

my brother has signed up in july at Videoslots, had with the first Deposit 350 € out.... then again times 40 € and 50 € came nothing.... has he left...

... ..until yesterday, we have again nen 80€ he tried...... ... 0.0 the result,

so if they wanted to attract him, he would have had to win now, because as I said he has not logged in since july......

but went completely empty not even come over the 80...... .

and it now also report many here in the forum that currently grad nothing runs...... ... .

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Emx81

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3rd Nov. 2018, at 11:41 pm CET#6

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So sunmaker / sunnyplayer I had once a payout. After that nüx, zahle there times a ten when there are promotions. But there are also players who win regularly, ka.
Unibet I was excited at the beginning, x3 payout on We and now nüx, elsewhere but also not.
Today krooncasino deposited again and so far I manage quite well. So a connection I do not find, think for a long time that the slots at different OC also run differently, possibly large Oc much turnover more often payout. How often can you see the appendix of the URL that the slots go to the Provider but in almost every OC ANDERS start, so own server. Zb krooncasino ' https://bmlcw.playngonetwork.com/' AND Vera&John 'https://plaingaming-cw.playngonetwork.com/' Both book of dead. What does that tell you, most likely own server and own settings /rtp

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TonioKroeger

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3rd Nov. 2018, at 11:58 pm CET#7

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Thanks for the reactions...Yes, I had darkly in memory, but could not find it, sorry. M.E. some things are just so central (they make me almost crazy inside, similar to the relationship audition - reality) that I occasionally bring them up again to "cool down". Probably a sign of Gambling addiction, looking for systems and not "believing" in coincidence. As I said, conspiracy thinking is alien to me, and all the Jebsens, Gansers, Jones`, von Bülows and whatever the Heins are called can be shot to the moon (to see the Apollo 11 tracks there). It is just unbelievable how "too" some OCs seem to be after wins. But at least I know now that it often balances out.

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3rd Nov. 2018, at 11:59 pm CET#8

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zocker123 wrote on 03/11/2018 at 23:36: well... i report now....

my brother has signed up in july at Videoslots, had with the first Deposit 350€ out.... then again times 40 € and 50€ came nothing.... has left him...

... ..until yesterday, we have again nen 80€ he tried...... ... 0.0 the result,

so if they wanted to attract him, he would have had to win now, because as I said he has not logged in since july......

but went completely empty not even come over the 80...... .

and it now also report many here in the forum that currently grad nothing runs...... ... .

I have the first 10 deposits not even get free spins at Book of Dead, so from therefore the thesis for me is
personally disproved^^ (at Videoslots)

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4th Nov. 2018, at 12:09 am CET#9

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The more and longer you play (deposit) the more often you lose. At the end of the day you will always be in the red and lose more often than you pay out. No matter if you play OC, Spielo, Spielbank or Lotto, Poker (except if you hit a jackpot). Another problem of gamblers is that the values for wins shift. If you have often won a lot with little bet, you can no longer pay out small amounts and play back down to zero. 300€ pay out? Why it could still come what.

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4th Nov. 2018, at 01:52 am CET#10

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The thinking mistake that some people make is that you can't assume that all casinos do it this way.
Just because some do it the other way around doesn't mean that no casino follows this pattern.

In at least 12 casinos it has run exactly so with me, namely first great wins, always with bonus, then absolutely nothing more.
In three casinos I was only able to win later, at sunmaker even after about 50 deposits

Of course, there is a very high probability that you are first lured with good running slots and then dropped.
All the assumptions - and that's all it is - that it's always and everywhere just pure chance, left me completely cold. If after tens of years of gambling there are unmistakable patterns to be seen, it simply has nothing to do with coincidence anymore.
I don't know how casinos (can) do it, but it's really quite easy to see that only intention can be behind it.
I don't care if another loyalist tries to present it as a conspiracy theory, which is simply not the case.

There are certainly serious casinos. Only the go down in the jumble of rip-offs and you soon trust no more casino.

If you win as a new customer and then never again, something is wrong. There is also nothing to prettify.
I'm not talking about maybe 5 more deposits, but years of trying.

By the way, it's funny that you mention the 350 euros in initial winnings at Videoslots, because that's how it was for me, too.

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