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Online Casinos in general: Experience with session management for RNG roulette and slots (Page 3)

Topic created on 28th Apr. 2025 | Page: 3 of 3 | Answers: 42 | Views: 842
Marieangels
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Experience with session management for RNG roulette and slots

29th Apr. 2025, at 05:56 pm CEST#31
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I'm the only woman here.... These are his experiences and he shares them! Nothing else. By the way, I have had similar experiences. There are slots that don't work. I only do a few rounds there too. But I'm sure that if I go back in later, he'll pay. There are certain slots. And that doesn't always work, but 80% of the time. What I and many others do wrong.... we stay in. As is so often the case, there are a few wins at the beginning and then you get stripped.... He's not so wrong with his observations. And he didn't say anything about getting rich. There's already an exchange here and not just whining about late payouts and lawyers...and you're taking him apart. If you haven't made these observations, ok. If you haven't tried it, that's your problem.

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frapi07
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Experience with session management for RNG roulette and slots

29th Apr. 2025, at 06:06 pm CEST#32
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Marieangels wrote on 29.04.2025 at 17:56: I'm the only woman here.... These are his experiences and he shares them! Nothing else. I have had similar experiences, by the way. There are slots that don't work. I only do a few rounds there too. But I'm sure that if I go back in later, he'll pay. There are certain slots. And that doesn't always work, but 80% of the time. What I and many others do wrong.... we stay in. As is so often the case, there are some wins at the beginning and then you get stripped.... He's not so wrong with his observations. And he didn't say anything about getting rich. There's already an exchange here and not just whining about late payouts and lawyers...and you're taking him apart. If you haven't made these observations, ok. If you haven't tried it, your problem.

The skepticism came about because he conveyed that in the 2nd post. However, Langhans has already explained that measures have already been taken in this regard. Unfortunately, normal users can't know that. In any case, I can understand the skepticism, especially when someone formulates it that way. The user would not have had his PMs blocked if only some people had understood it that way. Then there were also statements like "I earn 5k with 2-3 hours a day". It just sounds like a scam.

He later shared one of his tactics here. I reacted normally and told him that this kind of game was not for me. 2-3 spins and then 20 minutes out. No thanks

About the experience: I have already mentioned that a new seed influences "luck". It's also logical: the longer you play, the more you lose. It's statistical. You play something that has a negative expected value. So the longer you play, the closer you get to the RTP value. You don't need a master's degree for this. High school probability is enough

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RNGExperte
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Experience with session management for RNG roulette and slots

29th Apr. 2025, at 08:51 pm CEST#33
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Thank you for your nuanced view, frapi07. I think this is exactly the crux of the matter: the motivation. There are players who enjoy the shooting, the thrill, the entertainment. That's absolutely legitimate. But I'm not aiming for entertainment - my only goal is to be in the black in the long term. I don't want to "play", I want to win, and I want to do so through analysis, discipline and a clear system. What I've been doing for months is not a "2-3 spins and out" trick. That is a gross misunderstanding. I've evaluated over 250 providers, developed my own schemes and tested when it's really worth getting in - based on internal processes and behavior of the RNG systems. And no, I don't sit there for hours hoping. I'm working with a scheme that I've developed myself - it's not fun, it's a tactic. For those who prefer to play for fun, I honestly hope you continue to have a good time - but for those who take a strategic approach, this approach may be an inspiration.


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Saphira
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Experience with session management for RNG roulette and slots

29th Apr. 2025, at 09:11 pm CEST#34
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All well and good, and I really don't find the approach uninteresting, but what normal-thinking person turns to the general public with their hard-earned technology in the hope that they will do exactly the same without expecting anything in return? You write that you just want to make people think or inspire them. That might actually be the intention, but what's the point? Some of the users here are probably wondering exactly the same thing and are therefore also reacting somewhat skeptically.

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Stromberg
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Experience with session management for RNG roulette and slots

29th Apr. 2025, at 09:14 pm CEST#35
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Actually, I was out, but I have to check in here again😄without insinuations. ✌️

Your yield fluctuates depending on the bet, but you're actually always in the black. The system must therefore be scalable.

What kind of turnover are we talking about?
Is it so high that you can't scale it up any further because the bets would simply be so high that there wouldn't be enough capital?

Or why aren't you increasing your win further?

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RNGExperte
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Experience with session management for RNG roulette and slots

29th Apr. 2025, at 09:27 pm CEST#36
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Stromberg wrote on 29.04.2025 at 21:14: Actually I was out, but then I have to hook in here again😄without insinuations. ✌️

Your yield fluctuates depending on your bet, but you're actually always in the black. So the system must be scalable.

What kind of turnover are we talking about?
Is it so high that you can't scale it up any further because the bets would simply be so high that there wouldn't be enough capital?

Or why aren't you increasing your win further?


I deliberately don't scale it any higher because, from a purely mathematical and logical point of view, you could achieve even more - but that's pure greed, which always leads to the negative. My approach is deliberately limited to a realistic level: For me as an active user who is registered at several casinos, monthly payouts of around 500 euros per casino are more than sufficient. If I were to aim for higher sums than that, it would not only become psychologically unreasonable, but the operators would also intervene at some point to regulate and restrict payouts. This is not about disproportionate wins, but about a sustainable strategy that remains within reasonable limits and works in the long term."

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frapi07
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29th Apr. 2025, at 09:29 pm CEST#37
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RNGExpert wrote on 29.04.2025 at 20:51:


Thank you for your nuanced view, frapi07. I think this is the crux of the matter: motivation. There are players who enjoy the spin, the thrill, the entertainment. That's absolutely legitimate. But I'm not aiming for entertainment - my only goal is to be in the black in the long term. I don't want to "play", I want to win, and I want to do it through analysis, discipline and a clear system. What I've been doing for months is not a "2-3 spins and out" trick. That is a gross misunderstanding. I've evaluated over 250 providers, developed my own schemes and tested when it's really worth getting in - based on internal processes and behavior of RNG systems. And no, I don't sit there for hours hoping. I work with a scheme that I've worked out for myself - it's not fun, it's a tactic. If you prefer to play for fun, I honestly hope you continue to enjoy yourself - but for those with a strategic approach, this approach may be an inspiration.


No problem I think that most people have this motivation. Very few will play for fun or boredom. My motivation is also to make a win. I generally play by betting very high and then paying out straight away. However, slots are not suitable for this, which is why I have become more of a table player. Nevertheless, I find what you are currently claiming dangerous. You share your experience, but at the same time claim that your approach is very safe. That may be true for you, but who's to say that it's not just "luck"? Nothing has been proven. Don't get me wrong, I'm the first to believe that the system can be fooled. There are bugs for a reason. You must never forget one thing: this was developed by people who certainly can't do everything to perfection.

Saphira wrote on 29.04.2025 at 21:11: All well and good, and I really don't find the approach uninteresting, but what normal-thinking person turns to the general public with their hard-earned technology in the hope that they will do exactly the same without expecting anything in return? You write that you just want to make people think or inspire them. That might actually be the intention, but what's the point? Some of the users here are probably wondering exactly the same thing and are therefore also reacting somewhat skeptically.

That's exactly the point that many people don't understand. Hardly anyone has taken the trouble to study and try it out in such detail. The only thing I agreed with him on was that the seed change can make a difference. But that's nothing new and has long been known.

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RNGExperte
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Experience with session management for RNG roulette and slots

29th Apr. 2025, at 09:40 pm CEST#38
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frapi07 wrote on April 29th, 2025 at 9:29 pm:

That's exactly the point that many don't understand. Hardly anyone has taken the trouble to study and try it out in such detail. The only thing I agreed with him on was that the seed change can bring something. But this is nothing new and has long been known.

I completely understand your skepticism - especially in a forum like this one, it's understandable.


Why am I even writing about this here? Because, to be honest, I don't have anyone in my private life with whom I can exchange ideas at this level. Family and friends have zero contact with it - they don't understand the thinking behind it and don't want to. That's why I think it's nice that you can at least have a discussion here.

As for supporting documents: Sure, I could share bank statements or my complete documentation - but firstly, for data protection reasons, I can't just do that publicly, and secondly, my records are extremely extensive. I have collected around 53 pages of analyses and observations from around 14-15 months of testing.

Anyone who shows serious interest and understanding is welcome to take a look at it - but I certainly won't randomly hand it to skeptics or doubters who are just looking for something to pick apart. Too much work and detailed knowledge has gone into it for that.

Once again: I don't claim to have found the absolute truth. But the results I have personally achieved are based on comprehensible structure and discipline - and not on pure hope or endless gambling.

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Langhans_innen
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Experience with session management for RNG roulette and slots

29th Apr. 2025, at 10:14 pm CEST#39
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I also find all these strategic approaches quite exciting, especially as I also think that you can "influence" things to a certain extent, in that if you do this and that at a certain moment, your chances can increase. Just as a mini-introduction to make it clear that I am not a general doubter in this respect and do not dismiss it as hocus-pocus. However, I remember another case here in the forum quite well. It could have been a year or a year and a half ago. It could have been you in terms of appearance, which I mean in a completely non-judgmental way. He also worked with recurring time windows and some kind of inverval rotation of only a few minutes before there was an eternal break etc.. But when I wanted to know what time I should go into which slot today or tomorrow or whenever, where a positive setting should be, he wouldn't or couldn't tell me anything about it. I would have liked to try it out without expecting riches or FS in a continuous loop. But nothing came of it. I can't find the thread anymore. Someone wrote to him privately and then knew a bit more about it. In the end, however, there was somehow no hand and foot or measurable and verifiable results and then he left again.

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Langhans_innen
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29th Apr. 2025, at 10:40 pm CEST#41
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If this is feasible for you, please rewrite your last post. There is a small problem with the formatting in some cases. I also think it would be advisable to stop using the quote function for the time being. Your texts are obviously slipping quickly into the previous speaker's speech bubble and that doesn't make for good readability. Thank you in advance We will delete your post with the number 40 for a better overview...

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RNGExperte
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29th Apr. 2025, at 10:48 pm CEST#42
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Langhans_innen wrote on 29.04.2025 at 22:14: I also find all these strategic approaches quite exciting, especially since I also think that you can "influence" things to a certain extent if you do this and that at a certain moment, the chances can increase. Just as a mini introduction to make it clear that I'm not a general doubter in this respect and don't dismiss it as hocus-pocus. However, I remember another case here in the forum quite well. It could have been a year or a year and a half ago. It could have been you in terms of appearance, which I mean in a completely non-judgmental way. He also worked with recurring time windows and some kind of inverval rotation of only a few minutes before there was an eternal break etc.. But when I wanted to know what time I should go into which slot today or tomorrow or whenever, where a positive setting should be, he wouldn't or couldn't tell me anything about it. I would have liked to try it out without expecting riches or FS in a continuous loop. But nothing came of it. I can't find the thread anymore. Someone wrote to him privately and then knew a bit more about it. In the end, however, there was somehow no hand and foot or measurable and verifiable results and then he left again.

Hey, thanks for your contribution - but just to clarify:

It certainly wasn't me you're talking about. I've only been active on the forum for a few days and have a completely different approach. In my opinion, working with any times or "favorable moments" is complete nonsense. This is pure wishful thinking and is guaranteed to lead nowhere.

My system is not based on hocus-pocus, but on what you can actually influence - namely server-side behavior during session starts, waiting times between sessions, login/logout cycles, cookies, browser behavior, etc. Time is completely irrelevant. Time is completely irrelevant. I don't work with "good times", but with targeted interruptions - i.e. what you can actually control and manipulate.

And yes - of course the casinos and developers are working against us players. But that also means that we players can just as easily work against the casinos. Anyone who believes that only one side should have the upper hand has not understood the system. This is precisely the key - and the opportunity.

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Langhans_innen
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Experience with session management for RNG roulette and slots

29th Apr. 2025, at 10:55 pm CEST#43
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RNGExpert wrote on 29.04.2025 at 22:48:

Hey, thanks for your input - but just a quick clarification:

It certainly wasn't me you're talking about. I've only been active on the forum for a few days and have a completely different approach. In my opinion, working with any times or "favorable moments" is complete nonsense. This is pure wishful thinking and is guaranteed to lead nowhere.

My system is not based on hocus-pocus, but on what you can actually influence - namely server-side behavior during session starts, waiting times between sessions, login/logout cycles, cookies, browser behavior, etc. Time is completely irrelevant. Time is completely irrelevant. I don't work with "good times", but with targeted interruptions - i.e. what you can actually control and manipulate.

And yes - of course the casinos and developers are working against us players. But that also means that we players can just as easily work against the casinos. Anyone who believes that only one side should have the upper hand has not understood the system. This is precisely the key - and the opportunity.

Don't worry: you were in no way suspected of being the one from back then. It was merely intended to make it clear that sometimes someone drops by who, along with their theories, causes disbelief among some, incomprehension among others and even mild displeasure among others. But they are all welcome

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RNGExperte
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Experience with session management for RNG roulette and slots

29th Apr. 2025, at 11:02 pm CEST#44
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Langhans_innen wrote on 29.04.2025 at 22:55:

Don't worry: you were by no means suspected of being the one from back then. It was just to make it clear that someone often drops by who, along with their theories, causes disbelief among some, incomprehension among others and even mild displeasure among others. But they are all welcome

It's all good - I don't feel suspected. I just wanted to clarify: I certainly wasn't the mysterious user from back then, I've only just joined - still with the "fresh label" on my profile, so to speak.

It's perfectly legitimate for someone with unusual ideas to pop in here from time to time. Some are amazed, others are doubtful - it's all part of it. I myself see the whole thing more analytically than esoterically. No hocus-pocus, but rather structured observations that I have gathered over the course of more than a year.
And let's be honest: if the casino systems are allowed to work against us, we can work back a little smarter, can't we?

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