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Online Casinos in general: EnergYcasino Verification Procedure (Page 2)

Topic created on 11th Feb. 2020 | Page: 2 of 2 | Answers: 15 | Views: 3,813
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@Klempo77

i have never won such amounts online, the highest were once 800 euros, from 10 euros no Deposit bonus (70-fold turnover), of which I was able to withdraw after a long back and forth with Verification, own deposit, etc. just 100 euros.

This works once in a lifetime, then never again, but you are still addicted to it. For me, 100 euros are just damn much money, must get along a whole month with it. Nevertheless, it tried for over 3 years now again and again, but over 200 euros I could nowhere ever pay out ... no matter what. I wish it had never happened back then.

I believe in the nonsense also meanwhile no longer ...... that any casino really pays out such amounts, what some write here. No matter with or without verification, no casino has money to give away, it's all just to get people hooked.
3.000 euros or so will definitely no casino in the world really pay out, for this you have to work hard for 10 months to earn that first.
Somewhere very small in the terms and conditions is then always something that the win is limited to 50 or 100 euros, which are also usually paid out, just to make people addicted, the rest then simply disappears from the account again, if you have not gambled it away again.

I think times, is also here in the forum much invented by people at wins etc. In reality, it does not work at all, and where does someone want to have thousands of euros in a legal way to gamble? Through legal work certainly not, then it would be much too hard earned money to simply gamble away.
So, complete nonsense actually everything. If someone has already gambled away 30,000 in a casino, then he gets sometime 3,000 again paid out with good luck but also only, and is happy about it, in a week 30,000 are gambled away again. Wherever the people have the money, certainly not from wins from OC's.

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Klempo77
Expert
Andy_1980 wrote on 11.02.2020 at 22:02: @Klempo77

i have never won such amounts online, the highest was once 800 euros, from 10 euros no Deposit bonus (70-fold turnover), of which I was able to withdraw after a long back and forth with Verification, own deposit, etc. just 100 euros.

This works once in a lifetime, then never again, but you are still addicted to it. For me, 100 euros are just damn much money, must get along a whole month with it. Nevertheless, it tried for over 3 years now again and again, but over 200 euros I could nowhere ever pay out ... no matter what. I wish it had never happened back then.

I believe in the nonsense also meanwhile no longer ...... that any casino really pays out such amounts, what some write here. No matter with or without verification, no casino has money to give away, it's all just to get people hooked.
3.000 euros or so will definitely no casino in the world really pay out, for this you have to work hard for 10 months to earn that first.
Somewhere very small in the terms and conditions is then always something that the win is limited to 50 or 100 euros, which are also usually paid out, just to make people addicted, the rest then simply disappears from the account again, if you have not gambled it away again.

I think times, is also here in the forum much invented by people at wins etc. In reality, it does not work at all, and where does someone want to have thousands of euros in a legal way to gamble? Through legal work certainly not, then it would be much too hard earned money to simply gamble away.
So, complete nonsense actually everything. If someone has already gambled away 30,000 in a casino, then he gets sometime 3,000 again paid out with good luck but also only, and is happy about it, in a week 30,000 are gambled away again. Wherever the people have the money, certainly not from wins from OC's.

I just wanted to say that it works, even without verification
Where people have money to gamble I can not say 😊😊

But it also works with small deposits. Have me with 10 or 20 € also managed to "work" high. But you need a lot of luck

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MarcT22186
Expert
Andy_1980 wrote on 11.02.2020 at 22:02: @Klempo77

i have never won such amounts online, the highest was once 800 euros, from 10 euros no Deposit bonus (70-fold turnover), of which I was able to withdraw after a long back and forth with Verification, own deposit, etc. just 100 euros.

This works once in a lifetime, then never again, but you are still addicted to it. For me, 100 euros are just damn much money, must get along a whole month with it. Nevertheless, it tried for over 3 years now again and again, but over 200 euros I could nowhere ever pay out ... no matter what. I wish it had never happened back then.

I believe in the nonsense also meanwhile no longer ...... that any casino really pays out such amounts, what some write here. No matter with or without verification, no casino has money to give away, it's all just to get people hooked.
3.000 euros or so will definitely no casino in the world really pay out, for this you have to work hard for 10 months to earn that first.
Somewhere very small in the terms and conditions is then always something that the win is limited to 50 or 100 euros, which are also usually paid out, just to make people addicted, the rest then simply disappears from the account again, if you have not gambled it away again.

I think times, is also here in the forum much invented by people at wins etc. In reality, it does not work at all, and where does someone want to have thousands of euros in a legal way to gamble? Through legal work certainly not, then it would be much too hard earned money to simply gamble away.
So, complete nonsense actually everything. If someone has already gambled away 30,000 in a casino, then he gets sometime 3,000 again paid out with good luck but also only, and is happy about it, in a week 30,000 are gambled away again. Wherever the people have the money, certainly not from wins from OC's.

🤦🤦🤦 You compare here just seriously wins from ND Bonuses with cash!!!?
That actually says it all...
No deposit are meant to test a casino, that you can not make thousands of euros should be clear in principle. Gambling is a business and that they do not shower you with money is logical, right?
You can without any problems, at the big casinos, several 10k€ pay out.
Just write such an incredible and baseless nonsense, without even bothering to bring a valid argument is so 🧟.
A little Tip: Your no-deposit experiences, with which you want to support this, are ridiculous.

@Theone: If you deposited with KK in the aftermath, it's kind of standard. Energy are not the fastest, but you can assume that you get your win - with stalling tactics has nothing to do

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A****0
withdraw several 10k? Well, then you must have deposited several 100,000 euros in the casino beforehand.
And even if it should actually go, then you also need several black money accounts and several fake credit cards, etc. to distribute the money.

A normal account at a reputable bank would be gone after only one such withdrawal, and the money first seized. Then also the deposits are checked very carefully etc. and you have to prove where every single cent of it comes from. And then you have 100s of charges on your neck.
Then the several 10,000 euros are not enough for a long time, with such sums from illegal gambling, money laundering, black money accounts, etc., for this you go for years in jail or even for an unlimited time in psychiatry (forensics).

Even with a win of 1.000 Euro I would be afraid to pay out the money. It just doesn't make sense, because of such nonsense.

Times here and there 5 or 10 euros to put and also times 10 or 20 euros win, that goes yes still, although even that is a criminal offense evenly.
But unfortunately it does not remain with most and it ends quite quite badly at some point.

Can only hope that these sites will soon be completely blocked on the net, so that no one can access it at all and comes into temptation.

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Kleinkariert
Expert
Andy_1980 wrote on 11.02.2020 at 22:02: @Klempo77

i have never won such amounts online, the highest were once 800 euros, from 10 euros no Deposit bonus (70-fold turnover), of which I was able to withdraw after a long back and forth with Verification, own deposit, etc. just 100 euros.

This works once in a lifetime, then never again, but you are still addicted to it. For me, 100 euros are just damn much money, must get along a whole month with it. Nevertheless, it tried for over 3 years now again and again, but over 200 euros I could nowhere ever pay out ... no matter what. I wish it had never happened back then.

I believe in the nonsense also meanwhile no longer ...... that any casino really pays out such amounts, what some write here. No matter with or without verification, no casino has money to give away, it's all just to get people hooked.
3.000 euros or so will definitely no casino in the world really pay out, for this you have to work hard for 10 months to earn that first.
Somewhere very small in the terms and conditions is then always something that the win is limited to 50 or 100 euros, which are also usually paid out, just to make people addicted, the rest then simply disappears from the account again, if you have not gambled it away again.

I think times, is also here in the forum much invented by people at wins etc. In reality, it does not work at all, and where does someone want to have thousands of euros in a legal way to gamble? Through legal work certainly not, then it would be much too hard earned money to simply gamble away.
So, complete nonsense actually everything. If someone has already gambled away 30,000 in a casino, then he gets sometime 3,000 again paid out with good luck but also only, and is happy about it, in a week 30,000 are gambled away again. Wherever the people have the money, certainly not from wins from OC's.

You won with a No Deposit Bonus, there are often wins capped at a certain payout amount (was written to you elsewhere but you did not care). In which terms and conditions are the only 50 or 100 € paid out if you play with deposited money and without bonus? Please name me a site with a valid MGA license and then I might take you seriously.

You can win a lot of money online, of course on average you lose more than you win. No one is disputing that here either. But if you can never win a lot of money, many would stop playing much earlier. Even the dumbest would eventually realize that nothing is ever paid out. But in my experience it is not like that, you can win a lot of money. With win I mean in one evening or times a few days in a row. Overall, almost everyone in the forum is in the red. But it can be that you gamble every month 500 € and then after 8 months, for example, you win 2000 - 3000 € and then you can afford something nice.

Some are also times for one year in the plus, but altogether one is at the end in the minus. The biggest losses have mostly people who play on high stakes and therefore these are also mostly the people who get a VIP status and are especially cared for by the casino. People like you who have only 100 € to live do not play or should not play. A normal earner with about 2000 € gross but can afford 100-200 € deposit once a month, alternatively, he can also put it safely back. But the reality looks mostly so that the normal earner also times 1000 € pays in a month and everything gambles away, there are enough people who gamble away their whole salary times.

The question with the wage you still have not answered. I wonder where you work for 2 € per hour or what maintenance costs you have? And because of being blocked, etc. 2021, the whole thing should be legalized in Germany. Do you think then that will be paid or is then DE also behind the fraud?

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@ Small-minded
to be legalized in 2021? Well, let's hope that it remains prohibited, would probably be better for most people.

Cannabis should also be legalized for 30 years, but it is not until today, and will still be illegal in 30 years in DE. Well, it is now not directly with Glpcksspiel to compare, as the game in any case far more dangerous and much harder drug, which makes far more quickly addicted. So I don't think that our drug commissioner is in favor of legalizing something like that. Even the gambling halls now have much stricter conditions than a few years ago and it is controlled everywhere, in case of violations there are high fines for the operators, etc..
It wouldn't make any sense if it were suddenly legal online, which is far more dangerous and uncontrolled than in arcades.

I wrote, of course, smaller amounts up to 100 euros or so are almost always paid out at reputable casinos, it's just about the fact that you continue and more and more deposited, even on higher stakes then, which is not possible in normal arcade garnicht and the machine blocks but also after a certain time or as soon as a certain amount is gambled away. And offline, you can only gamble money that you actually own, that is, have in your hands. Online, you can gamble anytime and anywhere, completely uncontrolled, without even holding a single cent in your hand, so it's clear that everyone gets totally addicted to this crap. In the Spielo there may not even be free coffee or any Bonus money, it is strictly forbidden!

The MGA license has but today almost every casino, there are thousands now. I do not want to name any casinos here, because I do not want to advertise for something like that, but the terms and conditions are almost everywhere the same or very similar.
The MGA license says nothing at all about whether a casino is legal or not, the license is simply awarded, so can be bought for money if the casino pays. Besides, it is some Malta license that cannot be relied on in Germany at all. As far as I know, only for players in Schleswig-Holstein there are a few casinos that have valid licenses, in all other countries it is illegal either way, whether MGA or not.

well, because of the work, that is different with me, have also already worked for only 50 cents / h, times 1 euro or so, the highest were 5 euro / h gross.
I would like to say however also here nix more near. After all, no one here says how and where he earns so much money to be able to gamble away 30,000 or more every month.
So it doesn't really matter, does it? Addiction is addiction, and if I only have 100 euros a month and gamble away at least 50 euros of it, in the end it's just like someone who earns 60,000 euros a month and gambles away 30,000 every month.

One should not make the people, who are already ill in such a way however still more addicted, with statements like that casinos would pay out loosely several 10,000 euro and more.
It would be more helpful to explain how you can get rid of, I mean all the advertising etc. at least to block, and that the daily calls of all the casinos finally have an end, which constantly with fat bonus etc. if you deposit. But you sit there then has hardly to eat often. I mean, everyone who is addicted knows well enough I think, right?

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