T0uchTheSky wrote on 13.08.2023 at 09:48 clock: And then grumbles here in the forum, I win nowhere and for months nothing more. If you have already won 800 euros with a 50 euro Deposit and that does not pay out and continues to play, that is called of course greed. You want to win more and in the end it's all gone.
This is the gambling behavior of gambling addicts, because they always want more and more and can't stop it.
Thank you very much for your psychological assessment. It really helps. Surely you speak from experience, otherwise you wouldn't know so well. How frustrated must you actually be to judge and put down other members on principle. Just leave it...I asked who has a strategy and not who gives me one in the fr.... Clear?
With me it is so that I almost need a goal to finish it, there are certain amounts that when I reach them immediately stop. That's why I like to play with a bonus / Deposit bonus, whether for sports or slots, because I then have a goal (to convert the bonus). Once I have converted the bonus, I am out of steam and immediately withdraw. There are also phases where you play a few slots and then no longer have the desire, similar to a video game or watching a series. If you had a few good hits, so at the same time fun to play and then comes nothing more it is already over, then is paid out directly. And there is also a saying: stop when it is most beautiful. Real money: Set goal where you want to go when achieved stop
Marieangels wrote on 04.06.2023 at 23:30: With me bad, as the last 6 months. Yesterday with 50,-€ 8 hours played... is something. Always got to 200,-€, then down again, again to 200,-€ etc. It never went more. Thousands of spins in the Nolimit games with small stakes, nothing. Then for the first time after 1000 spins Bonus By at Mental. Immediately won 160,-€. Today registered at Sunmaker. deposited 4x 10,-€. Never a win. On the last 25 cents free spins, and immediately 5min cooling off period. All pure coincidence...;0)
No, I'm not busting your chops. It's like this, you write for months over and over again that you can not win anything and pay out. E.g. in the thread from June, with 50 euros have played 8 hours with it and always played to 200 euros, down and up, it never went more, but you wanted to win more again, just like this time, where you even 800 euros again gambled away . I mean, if you had paid out 200 euros then, you would have made a great win, and this time much more.
I don't know how many times you have gambled away your wins, I was trying to say that gambling addicts have this behavior, maybe you need help somewhere. Of course, now you would say that you are not addicted to gambling.
Also, the own wallet plays a role when you can withdraw. If you are financially well positioned, you just keep playing and it doesn't really bother you if you lose the whole balance again. If you have a little less money, the situation is different
Bin earlier herumgeradelt and have again actually thought about this 800€ story. Reconstructed again, as I then also sometimes force myself to win even a small payout only good. If I have doubled before, now pay out and only the pure win again with a 100% turnover-free bonus somewhere else purely put, I have again an identical starting position as the situation, in which I am right now. The same chance to go up, but without any Risk, because my invested hundred has already been put back into safety. It is simply not smart to continue at this point and the mathematical situation is clear.
Now again specifically to your story or plays itself every day thousandfold in Germany. 50€ are deposited (in the case Raw Cash). I suspect with moderate enthusiasm, because "the boxes do not run anyway", as the past has often shown and the whole year no coal came in. But you can afford the Fuffi. Suddenly you realize...that the boxes can pay after all, although I usually claim the opposite. My account balance is there in black and white. At 800€ - that's an insane sixteenfold increase of the stake (I would never get that far with 50€)- the cashout would be the solid basis for the next 16 days, where you could invest 50€ each again. And all this with a completely different, better feeling, because it is already pre-financed. Logical consequence: pay out. For sure, there will be some good evenings during the 16 days...here times 100 out...there times 150 out...And the stakes, money management, positive experience values, motivation and a much more objective assessment of the game (again) harmonize much better with each other. A payout is also a lot of fun if you invest it wisely afterwards, even if it's not in four or five figures. Amen.
Donnie wrote on 13.08.2023 at 23:15: Also, the own wallet plays a role when you can withdraw. If you are financially well positioned you just keep playing and it doesn't really bother you if you lose all the money. If you have a little less money the situation is different
yes that is of course always a factor.
I have today as I said 600 paid out, after almost 2 weeks of struggle to get there from 100. I first thought if I still pull through the whole of August to maybe 1000€, but I've recently experienced so much shit at the Wetterei because of 1 goal or 1 point back and forth......
For me 600 € are just already ne bar money...
Since I thought, not today, I cashe out and treat myself to something of the coal. And with the rest I zock quite relaxed further.
But generally set goals in gambling is also questionable... because you put yourself automatically under pressure, and whether pressure is good in gambling, I believe rather less...
Langhans wrote on 14.08.2023 at 00:00: Bin earlier rumgeradelt and have again actually thought about this 800€ story. Thereby reconstructed again, how I then also sometimes force myself to extract even a small payout only good. If I have doubled before, now pay out and only the pure win again with a 100% turnover-free bonus somewhere else purely purely put, I have again an identical starting position as the situation in which I am right now. The same chance to go up, but without any Risk, because my invested hundred has already been put back into safety. It is simply not smart to continue at this point and the mathematical situation is clear.
Now again specifically to your story or plays itself every day thousandfold in Germany. 50€ are deposited (in the case Raw Cash). I suspect with moderate enthusiasm, because "the boxes do not run anyway", as the past has often shown and the whole year no coal came in. But you can afford the Fuffi. Suddenly you realize...that the boxes can pay after all, although I usually claim the opposite. My account balance is there in black and white. At 800€ - that's an insane sixteenfold increase of the stake (I would never get that far with 50€)- the cashout would be the solid basis for the next 16 days, where you could invest 50€ each again. And all this with a completely different, better feeling, because it is already pre-financed. Logical consequence: pay out. For sure, there will be some good evenings during the 16 days...here times 100 out...there times 150 out...And the stakes, money management, positive experience values, motivation and a much more objective assessment of the game (again) harmonize much better with each other. A payout is also a lot of fun if you invest it wisely afterwards, even if it's not in four or five figures. Amen.
I think we are very similar. Mostly I just take the good Bonuses like wagerfree, nosticky or deposits with cash spins. I would not be able to play up to 800 euros, unless I win something big with a single free spin. Otherwise, I'm usually so if I have won something and the Deposit depending on the casinos 1x or 3x converted, I already pay out, even if sometimes only 20 or 30 euros are wins. Thus, I have many deposits, but I also have many withdrawals . With Online Casinos, I would say after so many years, I have not made a loss. I do not have the feeling for more, and if I have won a bit much, then I gamble away maybe another 20 or 30 euros, but after that is paid out without if or but. If I still feel like gambling, then I try somewhere else with a good bonus.
T0uchTheSky wrote on 08/14/2023 at 00:17 PM:
I think we are very similar. Mostly I just take the good Bonuses like wagerfree, nosticky or deposits with cash spins. I wouldn't be able to play up to 800 euros either, unless I win something big on a single free spin there. Otherwise, I'm usually so if I have won something and the Deposit depending on the casinos 1x or 3x converted, I already pay out, even if sometimes only 20 or 30 euros are wins. Thus, I have many deposits, but I also have many withdrawals . With Online Casinos, I would say after so many years, I have not made a loss. I do not have the feeling for even more, and if I have won a bit much, then I gamble away maybe another 20 or 30 euros, but after that is paid out without if or but. If I still feel like gambling, then I try somewhere else with a good bonus.
The fact that we both tick in the matter quasi identically, is meanwhile common We pursue a similar business model and that is nevertheless on security as well as small (if possible of course also times medium-size) profit margins laid out, which add up in the best case, without too large Risk to have gone. Otherwise I can not describe at least my fumbling Yesterday I also paid out for example with (only) 38€ win...so little and that took again quite a while, but I was also in the meantime minus 140€ behind. Has felt like a victory and that was it. My money has finally not got the booth, although it was close
Langhans wrote on 14.08.2023 at 00:36:
That we both tick in the matter quasi identically, is by now familiar We pursue a similar business model and that is nevertheless designed for security as well as small (if possible, of course, sometimes medium-sized) profit margins, which add up in the best case, without having taken too great a risk. Otherwise I can not describe at least my fumbling Yesterday I also paid out for example with (only) 38€ win...so little and that took again quite a while, but I was also in the meantime minus 140€ behind. Has felt like a victory and that was it. My money has finally not got the booth, although it was close
Yes, that's right. I also play very cautiously . Even if I win something big, I usually don't raise the stakes. Unless if I'm already in bonus on a nosticky, then a little higher,. but never more than 2 euros. Today I was lucky again. The Qbet Casino is yes like the Manga Casino, also has Nosticky Bonus, deposited 50 with 100% bonus, played several hours this new slot from Pragmatic Piggy Bankers, paid out 100 in the end. And at EvolveCasino yesterday there were cashspins for Deposit, deposited 30 and cashed out 120 euros in the end. Runs very well with me ^^
There are so many good Bonuses where you have only advantages, so I do not understand some people if they are necessarily so cool for example on the bonuses of Platin and co. where you have to convert 30x or more on the deposit and bonus amount . Or deposits because of a few Fresspins, where you also have to convert 35x to 70x. There gbt every week so many offers where you get wagerfree bonuses or cashspins for deposits ^^
Yes, that's right. i also play very cautiously . Even if I win something big I usually don't raise the stakes. Unless if I'm already in the bonus on a nosticky, then a little higher,. but never more than 2 euros. Today I was lucky again. The Qbet Casino is yes like the Manga Casino, also has Nosticky Bonus, deposited 50 with 100% bonus, played several hours this new slot from Pragmatic Piggy Bankers, paid out 100 in the end. And at EvolveCasino yesterday there were cashspins for Deposit, deposited 30 and cashed out 120 euros in the end. Runs very well with me ^^
at 2€ I would get nen heartbeat The 50% at Qbet I still have open...but it ran at the 100er so so bad that I got there first nen small fright. Of course, just stupid run...Manga is also top and especially the game selection in the bonus exquisite, but nothing more there unfortunately. But I'm also leaning towards Non-Sticky again for "under-the-week"...I'm currently still in a battle with Royal Stars, but it looks like he's going to flatten me soon Anyway, I wanted to put something else in between all the wagerfree...
Langhans wrote on 14.08.2023 at 00:00: Bin earlier rumgeradelt and have again actually thought about this 800€ story. Thereby reconstructed again, how I then also sometimes force myself to extract even a small payout only good. If I have doubled before, now pay out and only the pure win again with a 100% turnover-free bonus somewhere else purely purely put, I have again an identical starting position as the situation in which I am right now. The same chance to go up, but without any Risk, because my invested hundred has already been put back into safety. It is simply not smart to continue at this point and the mathematical situation is clear.
Now again specifically to your story or plays itself every day thousandfold in Germany. 50€ are deposited (in the case Raw Cash). I suspect with moderate enthusiasm, because "the boxes do not run anyway", as the past has often shown and the whole year no coal came in. But you can afford the Fuffi. Suddenly you realize...that the boxes can pay after all, although I usually claim the opposite. My account balance is there in black and white. At 800€ - that's an insane sixteenfold increase of the stake (I would never get that far with 50€)- the cashout would be the solid basis for the next 16 days, where you could invest 50€ each again. And all this with a completely different, better feeling, because it is already pre-financed. Logical consequence: pay out. For sure, there will be some good evenings during the 16 days...here times 100 out...there times 150 out...And the stakes, money management, positive experience values, motivation and a much more objective assessment of the game (again) harmonize much better with each other. A payout is also a lot of fun if you invest it wisely, even if it's not in four or five figures. Amen.
i personally can only agree, I see the same as you, if I win with ner 10 € Deposit eg. 100 €, I pay out the money, because I say to me that are again 10 new attempts (I pay in the rule always only nen 10er) so I can then 10x again try my luck and have if it runs well also some spielspass or maybe even somewhere again ne small payout. and all without constantly use your own money.
i personally can only agree, I see the same as you, if I win with ner 10 € Deposit eg. 100 €, I pay the money out, because I say to me that are again 10 new attempts (I pay in the rule always only nen 10er) so I can then 10x again try my luck and have if it runs well also some spielspass or maybe even somewhere again ne small payout. and all without constantly use your own money.
Then you are even stingier than I I usually pay between 30 to 50 euros. From time to time even 100, when there are tournaments in the casinos, I was able to clear a bit last month at the casinos of the Vesus Odds Group. In the Quickspin Tournament I was even 1st place, but unfortunately only 150 euros as prize money .
at 2€ I would get nen heartbeat The 50% at Qbet I still have open...however it ran with the 100er so so badly that I got there first nen small fright. Of course, just stupid run...Manga is also top and especially the game selection in the bonus exquisite, but nothing more there unfortunately. But I'm also leaning towards Non-Sticky again for "under-the-week"...I'm currently still in a battle with Royal Stars, but it looks like he's going to flatten me soon Anyway, I wanted to put something else in between all the wagerfree...
Well, 2 euros I do only from time to time, if I'm already in the Bonus money and must convert, mostly I always take the slot Asgard to Wagern, often works very well and often managed the Wager .
I'll give you a Tip, it's hard but 100% win guaranteed. Just stop and that's it. If you are already at a point that for you the important thing is to have a long gambling evening / night, it does not matter what you win the next time. If the night wasn't long enough, you'll blow even a 5000 win.
It must have happened to almost every gambler that a big win is lost again. Personally, I only consider a win as such when it has actually been paid out. My Tip to you would be not to take previous wins as a benchmark. For example, the next time you play and with a little luck you win 200-300 euros, be happy about it and have the amount paid out.
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Thank you very much for your psychological assessment. It really helps. Surely you speak from experience, otherwise you wouldn't know so well. How frustrated must you actually be to judge and put down other members on principle. Just leave it...I asked who has a strategy and not who gives me one in the fr.... Clear?
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No, I'm not busting your chops. It's like this, you write for months over and over again that you can not win anything and pay out. E.g. in the thread from June, with 50 euros have played 8 hours with it and always played to 200 euros, down and up, it never went more, but you wanted to win more again, just like this time, where you even 800 euros again gambled away . I mean, if you had paid out 200 euros then, you would have made a great win, and this time much more.
I don't know how many times you have gambled away your wins, I was trying to say that gambling addicts have this behavior, maybe you need help somewhere. Of course, now you would say that you are not addicted to gambling.
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Now again specifically to your story or plays itself every day thousandfold in Germany. 50€ are deposited (in the case Raw Cash). I suspect with moderate enthusiasm, because "the boxes do not run anyway", as the past has often shown and the whole year no coal came in. But you can afford the Fuffi. Suddenly you realize...that the boxes can pay after all, although I usually claim the opposite. My account balance is there in black and white. At 800€ - that's an insane sixteenfold increase of the stake (I would never get that far with 50€)- the cashout would be the solid basis for the next 16 days, where you could invest 50€ each again. And all this with a completely different, better feeling, because it is already pre-financed. Logical consequence: pay out. For sure, there will be some good evenings during the 16 days...here times 100 out...there times 150 out...And the stakes, money management, positive experience values, motivation and a much more objective assessment of the game (again) harmonize much better with each other. A payout is also a lot of fun if you invest it wisely afterwards, even if it's not in four or five figures. Amen.
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yes that is of course always a factor.
I have today as I said 600 paid out, after almost 2 weeks of struggle to get there from 100. I first thought if I still pull through the whole of August to maybe 1000€, but I've recently experienced so much shit at the Wetterei because of 1 goal or 1 point back and forth......
For me 600 € are just already ne bar money...
Since I thought, not today, I cashe out and treat myself to something of the coal. And with the rest I zock quite relaxed further.
But generally set goals in gambling is also questionable... because you put yourself automatically under pressure, and whether pressure is good in gambling, I believe rather less...
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I think we are very similar. Mostly I just take the good Bonuses like wagerfree, nosticky or deposits with cash spins. I would not be able to play up to 800 euros, unless I win something big with a single free spin. Otherwise, I'm usually so if I have won something and the Deposit depending on the casinos 1x or 3x converted, I already pay out, even if sometimes only 20 or 30 euros are wins. Thus, I have many deposits, but I also have many withdrawals . With Online Casinos, I would say after so many years, I have not made a loss. I do not have the feeling for more, and if I have won a bit much, then I gamble away maybe another 20 or 30 euros, but after that is paid out without if or but. If I still feel like gambling, then I try somewhere else with a good bonus.
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The fact that we both tick in the matter quasi identically, is meanwhile common We pursue a similar business model and that is nevertheless on security as well as small (if possible of course also times medium-size) profit margins laid out, which add up in the best case, without too large Risk to have gone. Otherwise I can not describe at least my fumbling Yesterday I also paid out for example with (only) 38€ win...so little and that took again quite a while, but I was also in the meantime minus 140€ behind. Has felt like a victory and that was it. My money has finally not got the booth, although it was close
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Yes, that's right. I also play very cautiously . Even if I win something big, I usually don't raise the stakes. Unless if I'm already in bonus on a nosticky, then a little higher,. but never more than 2 euros. Today I was lucky again. The Qbet Casino is yes like the Manga Casino, also has Nosticky Bonus, deposited 50 with 100% bonus, played several hours this new slot from Pragmatic Piggy Bankers, paid out 100 in the end. And at EvolveCasino yesterday there were cashspins for Deposit, deposited 30 and cashed out 120 euros in the end. Runs very well with me ^^
There are so many good Bonuses where you have only advantages, so I do not understand some people if they are necessarily so cool for example on the bonuses of Platin and co. where you have to convert 30x or more on the deposit and bonus amount . Or deposits because of a few Fresspins, where you also have to convert 35x to 70x. There gbt every week so many offers where you get wagerfree bonuses or cashspins for deposits ^^
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at 2€ I would get nen heartbeat The 50% at Qbet I still have open...but it ran at the 100er so so bad that I got there first nen small fright. Of course, just stupid run...Manga is also top and especially the game selection in the bonus exquisite, but nothing more there unfortunately. But I'm also leaning towards Non-Sticky again for "under-the-week"...I'm currently still in a battle with Royal Stars, but it looks like he's going to flatten me soon Anyway, I wanted to put something else in between all the wagerfree...
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i personally can only agree, I see the same as you, if I win with ner 10 € Deposit eg. 100 €, I pay out the money, because I say to me that are again 10 new attempts (I pay in the rule always only nen 10er) so I can then 10x again try my luck and have if it runs well also some spielspass or maybe even somewhere again ne small payout. and all without constantly use your own money.
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Then you are even stingier than I I usually pay between 30 to 50 euros. From time to time even 100, when there are tournaments in the casinos, I was able to clear a bit last month at the casinos of the Vesus Odds Group. In the Quickspin Tournament I was even 1st place, but unfortunately only 150 euros as prize money .
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Well, 2 euros I do only from time to time, if I'm already in the Bonus money and must convert, mostly I always take the slot Asgard to Wagern, often works very well and often managed the Wager .
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