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Online Casinos in general: Do you get preferential treatment as a new player? (Page 7)

Topic created on 07th Sep. 2018 | Page: 7 of 9 | Answers: 81 | Views: 19,619
Knochen
Elite
Deposited yesterday for the first time at Leovegas. 20€ + 20€ bonus + 40 FS for BoD resulted in a total of once a Big Win over 17€ and otherwise absolutely nothing

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s****e
That's logical, according to RTP!

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Anonym
I have never noticed that one is preferred as a new player. I have never really won with new registrations until now. Perhaps this is related to the fact that someone pays 3 to 4 digit sums every month. Such people I assume are treated differently than people who pay 100 euros or less in the month of course.

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Counter
Experienced
For a while it seemed to me that the wins - when I tried a new casino - were higher or came faster than in the usual ones where I had been logged in for a while
This paralleled the feeling that when a game was new to an online casino, it paid out better than older ones.
At least that with the new casinos is relative though. Since I document every Deposit and withdrawal per casino, I could not see any significant tendency. That was then but rather luck from time to time. But as a human being, you probably notice this more than the rest of the stuffy stuff.
The feeling about new games, but I'm still not quite sure....

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Anonym
Have not noticed any difference, but may be because you switch to new after the old after a few deposits no win needed and with the first (actually then b. the 5th) Deposit the new casino pays out a supposed win. The only thing that is sometimes better are the Bonuses at the beginning - otherwise you are not really treated differently (at least my experience and assessment)

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Stromberg
Legend
When I started playing, I was convinced that after the 5th-6th Deposit at the latest, you get a BigWin that pays back at least the previous deposits.
That has behaved at about the first 10 casinos where I signed up so.
I always deposited in increments of 20 and between the 2nd and 5th deposit I always got a really fat win, in the range of x600-x800. Among others with Creature from black Lagoon, Immortal Romance, Hitman, Jurassic Parc etc...
I was then so convinced of that that I deposited completely without hesitation, because I was sure that the BigWin comes again anyway

As I said, with the first 10 or so casinos or bookies it was the same.
Then came the first where it did not work, then gave up at the 10th deposit.
With the next it also did not work.
So I have discarded this theory then but again.
Looking back, there were casinos where I won with the first deposit, which where at some point completely unexpectedly what came good, when I actually only wanted to bet, and made a few spins.
And there are also casinos where I could never pay out anything, and I actually pay out quickly....
I can't see any favoritism in new casinos.

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Daniel
Elite
Stromberg wrote on 10.09.2018 at 10:47 am: When I started to play, I was convinced that you get a BigWin after no later than the 5th-6th Deposit, which gives you at least the previous deposits back.
This was the case with the first 10 casinos where I signed up.
I always deposited in increments of 20 and between the 2nd and 5th deposit I always got a really fat win, in the range of x600-x800. Among others with Creature from black Lagoon, Immortal Romance, Hitman, Jurassic Parc etc...
I was then so convinced of that that I deposited completely without hesitation, because I was sure that the BigWin comes again anyway

As I said, with the first 10 or so casinos or bookies it was the same.
Then came the first where it did not work, then gave up at the 10th deposit.
With the next it also did not work.
So I have discarded this theory then but again.
Looking back, there were casinos where I won with the first deposit, which where at some point completely unexpectedly what came good, when I actually only wanted to bet, and made a few spins.
And there are also casinos where I could never pay out anything, and I actually pay out quickly....
I can't see any favoritism in new casinos.


Thanks for your post, I see it the same way. I could never see any favoritism either. But I have also played with bonus and then won. The brain then automatically thinks that it is always or often like that, because something like that is simply strongly imprinted. With increasing experience, however, you realize in the medium term at the latest that there is no pattern, no preference or similar, but that the chances of winning are always the same everywhere.


When I started gambling 10 years ago, I also had a kind of "conspiracy theory". At that time I thought that the sequence of red/black combinations on Novoline Slot machines are already predetermined. At first I thought it was always a 50/50 chance but then my brain started to recognize patterns (the brain looks for patterns, the mind doesn't really understand randomness). This whole theory was supported by a forum or blog post I read. In this post it was claimed that the legislator stipulates that wins in gambling halls and at gastro machines must not depend on chance.

So what did I do with this knowledge? I wrote a program in JAVA which was supposed to remember the red/black combinations and predict the next card based on the previously drawn cards. I was playing in a pub at the time and since I knew the landlord (himself a gambler), I was allowed to experiment freely. I played for over 2 days, always the same game, on 5 cents a spin and risked every win and noted the results. I had well over 1,000 combinations and more combos were added later. I tested the app and the more combinations I had and the longer I used the APP, the more the predictions went to 50/50. Say, the app gave me a 50/50 chance every time (at least close to 50/50). I was sure - until I wrote the app and tried it - that there were patterns. My brain was deceiving me. A lot of it is just "mind-f**k."

I actually wanted to sell this app, but since it didn't work, I let it go

@Aluhuträger, @Hater, @Skeptiker: No, I have and had with the side Merkur tricks nothing at the hat, but some years ago even warned about it. This "App" what they offer is only a graphic animation without a real function. My program was there a long time before Merkur-Tricks. It also had a real function. Due to the fact that the red/black combinations are randomly generated in real time, the app was not helpful and therefore useless and I never released it. Can't find the app anymore either, unfortunately. Is also already 10 years ago ...

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K****t
It is not about all casinos, but about a part of them.
My experience:

- New customer, Welcome bonus, won immediately, payout between 200 and 500 euros - then never again won even a mini-amount that could have been paid out, in several casinos.

- New customer, welcome bonus, won, turnover achieved, between 50 and 130 euros remained. Continued to play, each time (in several casinos) between 4 and 5 times again and again to the initially won maximum amount, then nothing more. Everything gone. I never got over the initial sum. After that, years of deposits, never got over 140 euros.

- New customer, welcome bonus, nothing won. Not even after that, never, not even in two years.

- New customer, welcome bonus, nothing won, about 9 months of deposits. then 700 won. After that nothing more.

The vast majority of the numerous casinos in which I played, did it as in the first example.
By the way, also when I played with bonus again afterwards. Always then it worked, with real money never. That's why I was never able to cash out again after the bonus wins.

I'm not alone in this, it also happened to friends, as well as players who write this in forums or reviews.
I spoke to support at two casinos before the bonus. I said that I won't win anything anyway (didn't want the bonus at first). Support persuaded me and said with a wink that it will certainly be something. And so it did. But only with the welcome bonus.
Suddenly came free spins and bigger wins, where I usually never have luck and where just these slots were absolutely dead in other casinos.
So if it works with the welcome bonus and then never again, something is wrong.
I also do not care what others want to tell there again. There is no such thing as a continuous streak of bad luck, it violates every law of physics to always lose. That is not possible.
Chance does not mean always going in one direction.

OCs beschei**n, that's for sure for me.


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Daniel
Elite
Coffee Light wrote on 10/09/2018 at 23:19

OCs beschei**n, that's for sure for me.

The games are not hosted on the servers of the online casinos. If anyone is cheating, it's the game manufacturers, not individual casinos. If Online Casinos are cheating, why do you still play in online casinos and not in state-run casinos (casinos / not gambling houses)? Have a chat with the players in casinos. Many also claim that the wins are controlled by cameras. In online casinos it is player profiles, in offline casinos wins are controlled from above and you are watched with kamara. In the long run, you will lose in casinos just as much as in online casinos.

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s****e
So the fact is that I had sessions where after 100€ Deposit I could work my way up to 150-200€
could. Then you literally noticed how all the slots have closed down. I have changed, played on slots
i played on slots I have never played before, I lowered the stakes, but it did not help
but it didn't help, All Slots ate me down mercilessly.

i don't know, somehow you notice the moment when all of a sudden nothing works anymore
i would have had to pay out, but then I was also in the gambling and thought to myself, can really not be, and
continued. And that happened to me more than once, that you could pretty much tell the point,
when it really only went down. Not even a x10 was possible anymore.

I think most of you know this

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