Topic created on 09th Jun. 2017 | Page: 2 of 2 | Answers: 13 | Views: 2,725
Anonym
Topic Creator
Former Member
DingBums Dingens DINGDING - Immortal Romance ... finally times
14th Jun. 2017, at 09:21 am CEST#11
0 Likes
Nobody has liked this post so far
Well, I started in Online Casinos only in February. In the beginning, I really only played very low-budget and low-stakes. Mostly 25 euros deposited and bonus taken and was actually happy about the fact much longer to play than in the Spielo. Nachde it then but nevertheless in some casinos had taken a bit overhand I have locked myself in the corresponding (Quasar, Casumo, Mr. Green and a few others). My minus in the first 3 months was a good 5-6,000.
In May I had an extreme lucky streak which lasted until June. I then did the work and added up all my bank statements from the current account and my credit card statements to really see what I "spent".
The list is now only from May ... I have made a plus of 12,700. Then I really calculated everything - in detail from January to May. And the result was
- Current account = 3,434.66 (incl. fees for partial transfers)
- Use of credit card = 4297,00 (incl. fees for transactions)
-----------
Total stakes: 7.731,66
Real balance: 4968,34 (profit)
Since that I have however again between 3-4,000 verballert, on the other hand also again 5,100 at payouts gehaben.
(Zigmal also to the 500-1000 euro balance had and halt verzockt - I do not count what I "could have")
SummaSummarum I am with the OC experience definitely in the plus.
With gambling houses that was not the case in 25 years! And that I have set to go there - so to gamble. If then to play a round with 20-50 euros and drink coffee
Fact is - that I finally managed to get out of it after years of account minus and will leave it at that. I'm currently playing only with the credit I have paid out to the CC. I did that on purpose - because also my deposits with the CC are limited to 500 Euro per day or 3 bookings up to a total value of 500 Euro. Often I Deposit only 100 or 3 x 50. But now I've also started to set up limits in the casinos because it tempts one with such a clear plus but arg to keep shooting
This post has been translated automatically
Anonym
Former Member
DingBums Dingens DINGDING - Immortal Romance ... finally times
14th Jun. 2017, at 11:04 am CEST#12
0 Likes
Nobody has liked this post so far
The only thing I have to say about the amusement machines in gambling houses, arcades and restaurants is that they are state-legalized fraud systems and nothing else. This has nothing to do with gambling, because the devices can be adjusted as it suits the operators, operators and involved corporations best. And that will be just so that they make the maximum profit. That is, the devices give out exactly as much as it is necessary to keep the players playing
For gambling, I can only recommend that you set a monthly limit for the maximum amount you can spend in a month. The amount should of course not exceed the free money you have each month. Means: first bills, rent, food, Insurance, savings, etc. and then from what remains you can think about how much you want to spend on gambling maximum.
(umpteen times I've had a balance of 500-1000 euros and just gambled it away - I'm not counting what I "could" have spent)
If you have gambled it away again, you can not count it to the payouts, that is a dangerous fallacy. It reads partly as if you see OCs currently something as money printing machines. You should always be aware of how lucky you were
If you theoretically assume that you have had a turnover of 200K€ on the slots for the profits of almost 5k€. Then that means normally in the average, that one has an expected value of -10.000€ loss with an average AQ of 95%! You run then now currently with your expected value of course significantly better. But others have then instead of the only the average -10K€ loss even -25K€ loss made. They run then of course under the expected value of -10K€
One should always be aware of the background. The way from the gambling house in Online Casinos is but imo not the worst because you are really screwed from front to back at the entertainment machines there. Only you should also in the case of online casinos and other Games of chance always make aware that playing actually in the medium to long term always has a financial loss as a result
Therefore, you should never play because you want to win money or even think you have to win money because you can not pay the bills. You cannot force winnings when gambling. Therefore, always play only with money that you do not need for anything else
When gambling, it should never be about the money but primarily about the fun you have. I think you are doing a lot of things right, but you should also work on your mindset. I would keep the book in any case so.
This post has been translated automatically
Anonym
Topic Creator
Former Member
DingBums Dingens DINGDING - Immortal Romance ... finally times
14th Jun. 2017, at 03:38 pm CEST#13
0 Likes
Nobody has liked this post so far
After all, if you gambled it away again, you can't count it as a payout, which is a dangerous fallacy.
Joah is clear to me - is also not included in the payouts! Had written yes ... could have.
It reads partly as if you see OCs currently something as money printing machines. You should always be aware of how much luck you had.
That is also clear to me - only if you just have a strand, you just try to tickle out the rest. So slowly I notice but that it is around ...
Therefore, always play only with money that you need for nothing else.
I've always done so - I only play with the money that is left for myself after the salary, because everything is paid for and no one has to suffer hunger, etc...
I would keep the book in any case so.
Well I think I'll slowly cut back completely - the last 4 days were übelst ... and so slowly the money is too bad for me again
This post has been translated automatically
Anonym
Former Member
DingBums Dingens DINGDING - Immortal Romance ... finally times
14th Jun. 2017, at 03:58 pm CEST#14
0 Likes
Nobody has liked this post so far
Akaris1973 wrote on 06/14/2017 at 3:38 PM
I've always done it this way - I only play with the money what's left for myself after pay, there everything is paid and nobody has to suffer hunger etc...
That is imo the most important thing. If you decide, "okay I gamble with the rest" then it is up to you. Even if you say to yourself, I have 500€ left and do a shoot with it. So what, if you have the money and decide to do it, it is your own free choice
Of course it is, but otherwise it is just in the long run rather not good so for a self and possibly the associated family.
Machst but unlike many others also a very self-reflective impression on me. That is unfortunately not the case with many gamblers, who then often lie to themselves
You should always play responsibly and consciously, if you have your own family even more so.
DingBums Dingens DINGDING - Immortal Romance ... finally times
Nobody has liked this post so far
In May I had an extreme lucky streak which lasted until June. I then did the work and added up all my bank statements from the current account and my credit card statements to really see what I "spent".
The list is now only from May ... I have made a plus of 12,700. Then I really calculated everything - in detail from January to May. And the result was
- Current account = 3,434.66 (incl. fees for partial transfers)
- Use of credit card = 4297,00 (incl. fees for transactions)
-----------
Total stakes: 7.731,66
Real balance: 4968,34 (profit)
Since that I have however again between 3-4,000 verballert, on the other hand also again 5,100 at payouts gehaben.
(Zigmal also to the 500-1000 euro balance had and halt verzockt - I do not count what I "could have")
SummaSummarum I am with the OC experience definitely in the plus.
With gambling houses that was not the case in 25 years! And that I have set to go there - so to gamble. If then to play a round with 20-50 euros and drink coffee
Fact is - that I finally managed to get out of it after years of account minus and will leave it at that. I'm currently playing only with the credit I have paid out to the CC. I did that on purpose - because also my deposits with the CC are limited to 500 Euro per day or 3 bookings up to a total value of 500 Euro. Often I Deposit only 100 or 3 x 50. But now I've also started to set up limits in the casinos because it tempts one with such a clear plus but arg to keep shooting
This post has been translated automatically
DingBums Dingens DINGDING - Immortal Romance ... finally times
Nobody has liked this post so far
For gambling, I can only recommend that you set a monthly limit for the maximum amount you can spend in a month. The amount should of course not exceed the free money you have each month. Means: first bills, rent, food, Insurance, savings, etc. and then from what remains you can think about how much you want to spend on gambling maximum.
If you have gambled it away again, you can not count it to the payouts, that is a dangerous fallacy. It reads partly as if you see OCs currently something as money printing machines. You should always be aware of how lucky you were
If you theoretically assume that you have had a turnover of 200K€ on the slots for the profits of almost 5k€. Then that means normally in the average, that one has an expected value of -10.000€ loss with an average AQ of 95%! You run then now currently with your expected value of course significantly better. But others have then instead of the only the average -10K€ loss even -25K€ loss made. They run then of course under the expected value of -10K€
One should always be aware of the background. The way from the gambling house in Online Casinos is but imo not the worst because you are really screwed from front to back at the entertainment machines there. Only you should also in the case of online casinos and other Games of chance always make aware that playing actually in the medium to long term always has a financial loss as a result
Therefore, you should never play because you want to win money or even think you have to win money because you can not pay the bills. You cannot force winnings when gambling. Therefore, always play only with money that you do not need for anything else
When gambling, it should never be about the money but primarily about the fun you have. I think you are doing a lot of things right, but you should also work on your mindset. I would keep the book in any case so.
This post has been translated automatically
DingBums Dingens DINGDING - Immortal Romance ... finally times
Nobody has liked this post so far
Joah is clear to me - is also not included in the payouts! Had written yes ... could have.
That is also clear to me - only if you just have a strand, you just try to tickle out the rest. So slowly I notice but that it is around ...
I've always done so - I only play with the money that is left for myself after the salary, because everything is paid for and no one has to suffer hunger, etc...
Well I think I'll slowly cut back completely - the last 4 days were übelst ... and so slowly the money is too bad for me again
This post has been translated automatically
DingBums Dingens DINGDING - Immortal Romance ... finally times
Nobody has liked this post so far
That is imo the most important thing. If you decide, "okay I gamble with the rest" then it is up to you. Even if you say to yourself, I have 500€ left and do a shoot with it. So what, if you have the money and decide to do it, it is your own free choice
Of course it is, but otherwise it is just in the long run rather not good so for a self and possibly the associated family.
Machst but unlike many others also a very self-reflective impression on me. That is unfortunately not the case with many gamblers, who then often lie to themselves
You should always play responsibly and consciously, if you have your own family even more so.
This post has been translated automatically