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Online Casinos in general: Despite alleged player protection and addiction prevention, you are constantly lured in by jackpotpiraten.de and bingbong

Topic created on 29th Feb. 2024 | Page: 1 of 2 | Answers: 18 | Views: 1,557
Timbing86
Amateur
Unfortunately, I have to realize more and more that in Germany there is no protection for gambling addicts or those at Risk of gambling, although it is presented quite differently in public.

No other casinos lure you in as often as the supposedly reputable German casinos BingBong, jackpotpiraten.de etc .... I now receive emails and text messages from the casinos almost every 2 hours, not to mention all the advertising on the internet and tv ....if I wasn't already addicted and didn't know that politics is only about the money from the gauselman lobby, I would certainly be a new gambling addict this year at the latest, even though according to politics it's mainly about protecting the players .....I don't know if it's laughable or just sad

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Langhans_innen
Expert
I understand your approach and the advertising problem, of course, and I don't want to belittle it at all. However, on a very topical note, here are my thoughts on the casinos in question: I got €18 from these no Deposit spinners at Novoline today. "Out of necessity" or "of course" you play with it ...was free and has to go The whole set of rules and the associated circumstances in combination with the boring games without any variety make me want to stop playing quickly. It is simply torture without joy and the very best reason to stop playing. I would never be tempted to become a pathological consumer. If that was all that was left, I would find collecting stamps more fulfilling. They can run ads and send emails all they want... they don't get a single euro from me for their stuff. Regulated sports betting providers are sometimes really recommendable...but the casinos are hell, all of them across the board.

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JackpotPiraten
Rookie

Timbing86 wrote on 29.02.2024 at 21:35: Unfortunately, I have to realize more and more that there is no protection for gambling addicts or those at Risk of gambling in Germany, although it is presented quite differently in public.

No other casinos lure you as often as the supposedly reputable German casinos BingBong,jackpotpiraten.de etc ....meanwhile I get almost every 2 hours tack mails and SMS from the casinos and not to mention the many advertisements on the internet and tv .......if I wasn't already addicted and didn't know that politics is only about the money from the gauselman lobby, I would certainly be a new gambling addict this year at the latest, although according to politics it's mainly about protecting the players .....I don't know if it's laughable or just sad

Hello @Timbing86,


you have the option of unsubscribing from emails and other contact options in the settings.
Our e-mails, SMS and other contact options are only sent to players who are not blocked in the OASIS database.

If you are an addict, we strongly recommend that you place a block with OASIS as soon as possible. We will be happy to help you with this.

You can find further help options directly here:
https://www.bundesweit-gegen-gluecksspielsucht.de/
https://www.check-dein-spiel.de/
https://www.gluecksspielsucht.de/

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.

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Timbing86
Amateur
It's all about your courses or training courses, which of course are not officially referred to as advertising or casino streams by your employees and that alone is a lousy loophole, no matter how many thousands of free spins you give away, in the end all users here know that you can't win anything with you ...no matter if bingbong.de or jackpotpiraten.de....believe there is not 1 player here at gamblejoe who has ever seen 5 explorers or something similar with you .... despite millions of spins...

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Timbing86
Amateur

Timbing86 wrote on 01.03.2024 at 08:12: It's all about your courses or trainings which of course are not officially called advertising or casino streams by your employees and that alone is already a lousy loophole, no matter how many thousands of free spins you give away, in the end all users here know that you can't win anything with you ...no matter if bingbong.de or jackpotpiraten.de....think there is not 1 player here at gamblejoe who has ever seen 5 explorers or something similar with you ... despite millions of spins...

If there is someone who has already seen 5 explorers please let me know

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Paddington
Expert

Timbing86 wrote on 01.03.2024 08:13:

If there is someone who has already seen 5 explorers please let me know

Well, it is well known that the payout rate in regulated casinos is even worse!
Nobody is forced to Deposit their money there.

But I understand what you mean with your post, I'm with you on that!

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Saphira
Expert
I think the training teaches you how to get the 5 explorers. 🤡

@Briefmarkenhans
It's not torture for people who have all day. What else would they do?

@jackpotpirates
Great, what a great contribution you are making to Player protection by offering training.
But why don't you use gender?

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mtorero
Amateur

Timbing86 wrote on 01.03.2024 at 08:12: It's all about your courses or trainings which of course are not officially called advertising or casino streams by your employees and that alone is already a lousy loophole, no matter how many thousands of free spins you give away, in the end all users here know that you can't win anything with you ...no matter if bingbong.de or jackpotpiraten.de....think there is not 1 player here at gamblejoe who has ever seen 5 explorers or something similar with you ... despite millions of spins...

Someone will get 5 explorers with the mass of players, but anyone who plays or played in normal casinos should know that due to the outrageous payout odds, your chance of such a win is sometimes almost 4 times as bad in a German casino.

Everyone knows how bad things can go and how much money you can lose on slots with a 96% payout ratio. Now you play a slot with an 84% payout ratio:
96% - 100Eur credit, 1 Eur per spin makes 2476 spins at lowest volatility.
84% - 100Eur credit, 1 Eur per spin makes 619 spins at the lowest volatility.
So please don't be surprised if you only experience dead spins in GGL booths.

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Langhans_innen
Expert
Saphira wrote on 01.03.2024 at 10:23 am:
@Briefmarkenhans
This is not torture for people who have all day. What else would they do?


I wouldn't want to presume to criticize others in the sense of "you probably can't do anything better with your time than sit in front of your boxes to bridge the idle time in your boring life" I do the same and usually not because I'm so disillusioned, but because I enjoy it. At least most of the time. But the fun disappears as soon as I make use of the regulated offer. The reasons are as I have outlined above....the game selection is weak, the games are almost without exception based on the identical principle...sometimes you need three books, sometimes you need three suns, sometimes you need three sharks, sometimes you need three girls. Everything else is a bit of an afterthought. There are virtually no features that bring variety. Why isn't anything being done to make it more attractive When I read that "Lucky Lady Charm" is one of the top draws in the slot sector, I could fold up on the spot In addition, the well-known regulatory handling combined with the inevitable hopelessness of somehow not making a loss over a medium-term period puts me off completely. That's why providers can advertise as much as they like on all channels: nothing triggers me, because reality speaks a clear language. This is all just a subjective assessment and personal opinion that nobody has to share and that can be contradicted at any time. There is not just one opinion.
If you feel like swapping stamps, you can of course contact me at any time

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mtorero
Amateur

JackpotPirates wrote on 29/02/2024 22:53:

Hello @Timbing86,


you have the option of unsubscribing from emails and other contact options in the settings.
Our e-mails, SMS and other contact options are only sent to players who are not blocked in the OASIS database.

If you are an addict, we strongly recommend that you place a block with OASIS as soon as possible. We will be happy to help you with this.

You can find further help options directly here:
https://www.bundesweit-gegen-gluecksspielsucht.de/
https://www.check-dein-spiel.de/
https://www.gluecksspielsucht.de/

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.


Please stop your constant hypocrisy about gambling addiction.


Your employer Mernov (Merkur-Novomatic) is responsible through its great lobbying (cough corrupti*** cough cough) that we here in Germany are forced to play under the most unfair conditions with the most modest payout ratios worldwide.
(Forced because the state now persecutes anyone who doesn't want to take part and tries their luck abroad - GDR 2.0)

What would Novomatic and Gauselmann be today without the millions of gambling addicts who have made you rich. That's why you of all people shouldn't go on and on about protecting gamblers!

You can't sell drugs and at the same time tell your customers please don't or consume responsibly to clear your conscience (if you have one).
It's not that simple.

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Stromberg
Legend
Langhans wrote on 01.03.2024 at 11:32 am:
I wouldn't want to presume to criticize others in the sense of "you probably can't do anything better with your time than sit solitary in front of the boxes to bridge the idle time in your boring life" I do the same and usually not because I'm so disillusioned, but because I enjoy it. At least most of the time. But the fun disappears as soon as I make use of the regulated offer. The reasons are as I have outlined above....the game selection is weak, the games are almost without exception based on the identical principle...sometimes you need three books, sometimes you need three suns, sometimes you need three sharks, sometimes you need three girls. Everything else is a bit of an afterthought. There are virtually no features that bring variety. Why isn't anything being done to make it more attractive When I read that "Lucky Lady Charm" is one of the top draws in the slot sector, I could fold up on the spot In addition, the well-known regulatory handling combined with the inevitable hopelessness of somehow not making a loss over a medium-term period puts me off completely. That's why providers can advertise as much as they like on all channels: nothing triggers me, because reality speaks a clear language. This is all just a subjective assessment and personal opinion that nobody has to share and that can be contradicted at any time. There is not just one opinion.
If you feel like swapping stamps, you can of course contact me at any time

Despite all the justified criticism, the game selection is getting better. Of course, we are miles away from unlicensed casinos.

But you can at least fall back on elk, relax, Red Tiger, playson, pushgaming, in addition to the longer existing play n go, pragmaticplay, Merkur and novoslots. Of course, the selection is also significantly smaller for each provider. Netent, big time gaming, thunderkick are definitely more than desirable.
But it's not as if there are only 400 book of ra clones 😅

It is undisputed that rtp is not much fun...

Ps:I hate games where you need 4 Scatters, the 3 are already quite... 😅

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Langhans_innen
Expert
Stromberg wrote on 01.03.2024 at 12:39 pm:
For all the justified criticism, the game selection is getting better. Of course, you're miles away from unlicensed casinos.

But you can at least fall back on elk, relax, Red Tiger, playson, pushgaming, in addition to the longer existing play n go, pragmaticplay, Merkur and novoslots. Of course, the selection is also significantly smaller for each provider. Netent, big time gaming, thunderkick are definitely more than desirable.
But it's not as if there are only 400 book of ra clones 😅

It is undisputed that rtp is not much fun...

Ps:I hate games where you need 4 Scatters, the 3 are quite... 😅

Yes, it's quite possible that I miss out on slot expansions because a) I'm rarely there anyway and b) I don't really pay attention when they happen. When I do have a bit of a balance, I also play - for whatever reason - these typical classics that are not available in the unlicensed casinos. It's my own fault, so to speak, if I keep coming back to the point that the games are garbage Edit: but they can't think of anything new of their own, apart from these 400 Book of Ra clones, I have the impression. Where I always end up, however, is "Book of Madness"....must be from earlier times I was at Mr.Bet the other day with a €10 gift, where you could also play it: I was really shocked at what it's like when it runs at normal speed So for the next 3 scatters...in whichever game...I'd like to play four of them

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Stromberg
Legend
Langhans wrote on 01.03.2024 at 13:02:
Yes, it's quite possible that slot expansions that take place pass me by a bit, because a) I'm rarely there anyway and b) I don't really pay attention to them when they happen. When I do have a bit of a balance, I also play - for whatever reason - these typical classics that are not available in the unlicensed casinos. It's my own fault, so to speak, if I keep coming back to the point that the games are garbage Edit: but they can't think of anything new of their own, apart from these 400 Book of Ra clones, I have the impression. Where I always end up, however, is "Book of Madness"....must be from earlier times I was at Mr.Bet the other day with a €10 gift, where you could also play it: I was really shocked at what it's like when it runs at normal speed So for the next 3 scatters...in whichever game...I'd like to play four of them

i actually don't associate 4 Scatters with Bonanza and its semi-clones as you might think, but with these cluster slots from pragmaticplay... And I never get them there
But the worst thing is to need 3 scatters, get 5, and have no advantage.
Or you have a theoretical advantage and everything comes to nothing, e.g. all additional spins dead spins... 😅
When I first thought that a slot has to pay at some point and a casino anyway, I played secret of the stones forever. Then I thought to myself, okay, one more depositor and then 5 scatters appeared, 5 selections and I thought to myself: aha, I was right again, now it's popping and the money is coming back.... And then I won 4 euros 🥲

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gamble1
Icon

Timbing86 wrote on 01.03.2024 at 08:12: It's all about your courses or trainings which of course are not officially called advertising or casino streams by your employees and that alone is already a lousy loophole, no matter how many thousands of free spins you give away, in the end all users here know that you can't win anything with you ...no matter if bingbong.de or jackpotpiraten.de....think there is not 1 player here at gamblejoe who has ever seen 5 explorers or something similar with you ... despite millions of spins...

Are you really surprised? The German gambling lobby has been circumventing all regulations in gambling halls for years with their own interpretations


A rebooking process is declared as a game and then you have a reel game which is only entertainment in order to have no more restrictions

With regard to the training courses, the GGL has apparently already been asked for a statement on how it can be possible to declare several livestreams as training courses on a topic such as slots, but it was written somewhere here

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Frankey
Experienced

Timbing86 wrote on 29.02.2024 at 21:35: Unfortunately, I have to realize more and more that there is no protection for gambling addicts or those at Risk of gambling in Germany, although it is presented quite differently in public.

No other casinos lure you as often as the supposedly reputable German casinos BingBong,jackpotpiraten.de etc ....meanwhile I get almost every 2 hours tack mails and SMS from the casinos and not to mention the many advertisements on the internet and tv .......if I wasn't already addicted and didn't know that politics is all about the money from the gauselman lobby, I would certainly be a new gambling addict this year at the latest, even though according to politics it's mainly about protecting the players .....I don't know whether it's laughable or just sad

I myself am not at risk or affected, but I understand you 100%. Unfortunately the problem is not a new one. I've been working in homeless services for 18 years. where alcohol addiction has always been/is a big issue. If you exchange just a few words in your sentences 'game' with 'alcohol' and 'Gausselman' with 'breweries' etc. it reads exactly as my colleagues have been describing it for years. But is ignored by politicians. The topic of cannabis legalization was debated for 20 years in what was probably the most pointless debate ever held in the Bundestag.

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