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Declare crypto casino wins for tax purposes?
5th Sep. 2024, at 06:36 pm CEST#31
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morallyreprehensible wrote on August 21, 2024 at 11:34 am:
Nah. If you take your time with selling and the price changes too much upwards, then of course it does. But since you usually do everything in a short period of time when gambling, you usually don't have any problems. Especially as the purchase and sale price is always different from the real price. Rough example:
If the real LTC price is €60, the exchange will sell it to you for €61 and buy it for €59. So you already have a €2 buffer per coin when selling. But this is really just a rough example. This way, you won't have any problems if the price rises by a few % while you are gambling.
I've already had a tax calculation thing done via an exchange, where everything is automatically transferred to purchases and sales. That was last year or the year before last🤔 I'll have a look in the folder when I get the chance. There was also zero on the bottom line for "tax to be paid"
So I don't seem to be doing anything wrong the way I'm doing it. That's why I don't care what some people say about my statements.
What should I do it for?
I only have the tax calculated for coins where I definitely have to pay tax. For Bonk, Pepe and Shib with which I have made capital gains. But I don't use them for casino either. So that's a completely different topic.
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Declare crypto casino wins for tax purposes?
7th Sep. 2024, at 12:09 am CEST#36
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morallyreprehensible wrote on 06.09.2024 at 21:52:
What should I do?
I only have the tax calculated for coins where I definitely have to pay tax. For Bonk, Pepe and Shib with which I have made price gains. But I don't use them for casino either. So that's a completely different topic.
And you don't do that for coins that you play with in the casino and win and then send back to the exchange and sell in euros and then transfer to your bank account?
And for coins that you play with in the casino and win and then send back to the exchange and sell in euros and then transfer to your bank account, you don't do that?
For the second time: Nope. Why should I? No capital gains, no tax due. So.
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8th Sep. 2024, at 04:37 pm CEST#38
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morallyreprehensible wrote on 07.09.2024 at 22:55:
For the second time: Nope. Why should I? No capital gains, no tax due. So.
And how do you want to tell the tax office that you receive €750 in LTC or BTC from the casino, for example, and then sell it for €750, perhaps minus the exchange's sales fee, and send it to your bank account? What if the price rises by 5% at the moment you pay out? At €750, that would be €787.50 in the end, a win of €37.50, which would already be a price gain, wouldn't it?
And how do you want to tell the tax office that you receive € 750 in LTC or BTC from the casino, for example, and then sell it for € 750, perhaps minus the exchange's sales fee, and send it to your bank account. What if the price rises by 5% at the moment you pay out? At €750, that would be €787.50 in the end, a win of €37.50, which would already be a price gain, wouldn't it?
I don't know how often you have to repeat this, but the price gain only matters if you trade crypto and you hold it for less than 12 months. You have to purchase the crypto and if you get paid out crypto based on a gambling win, then you have not traded in crypto (price speculation) and that means that no tax is due here, regardless of whether a price gain has been made or not.
And how do you want to tell the tax office that you receive € 750 in LTC or BTC from the casino, for example, and then sell it for € 750, perhaps minus the exchange's sales fee, and send it to your bank account. What if the price rises by 5% at the moment you pay out? At €750, that would be €787.50 in the end, a win of €37.50, which would already be a price gain, wouldn't it?
Even if this were the case, no tax would be due as it does not exceed the exemption limit.
But you seem to be talking your head off anyway, without anything getting through to your brain.
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Declare crypto casino wins for tax purposes?
8th Sep. 2024, at 09:42 pm CEST#41
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morallyreprehensible wrote on 08.09.2024 at 17:36
Even if that were the case, no tax would be due as it doesn't exceed the exemption limit.
But you seem to talk your mouth off anyway without anything getting through to your brain.
And let's assume I do it that often and then exceed the tax-free amount?
Declare crypto casino wins for tax purposes?
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Have you looked in your folder?
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No, I didn't even think about it anymore.
But it doesn't really matter which year it was for. The fact is, I didn't have any tax-relevant transactions.
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It was for last quarter 22 and first 3 quarters 23.
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And now you don't do that anymore or what?
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What should I do it for?
I only have the tax calculated for coins where I definitely have to pay tax. For Bonk, Pepe and Shib with which I have made capital gains. But I don't use them for casino either. So that's a completely different topic.
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And you don't do that for coins that you play with in the casino and win and then send back to the exchange and sell in euros and then transfer to your bank account?
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For the second time: Nope. Why should I? No capital gains, no tax due. So.
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And how do you want to tell the tax office that you receive €750 in LTC or BTC from the casino, for example, and then sell it for €750, perhaps minus the exchange's sales fee, and send it to your bank account? What if the price rises by 5% at the moment you pay out? At €750, that would be €787.50 in the end, a win of €37.50, which would already be a price gain, wouldn't it?
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I don't know how often you have to repeat this, but the price gain only matters if you trade crypto and you hold it for less than 12 months. You have to purchase the crypto and if you get paid out crypto based on a gambling win, then you have not traded in crypto (price speculation) and that means that no tax is due here, regardless of whether a price gain has been made or not.
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Even if this were the case, no tax would be due as it does not exceed the exemption limit.
But you seem to be talking your head off anyway, without anything getting through to your brain.
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And let's assume I do it that often and then exceed the tax-free amount?
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You have already received this answer here.
Just read and understand
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Seems more like he doesn't want to understand that - the way it was described here, anyone should actually understand it.
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Yes, simply obtuse.
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