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Online Casinos in general: Debts due to casinos. (Page 7)

Topic created on 18th Mar. 2021 | Page: 7 of 7 | Answers: 68 | Views: 19,471
tEquilA
Amateur
Bonushunter77 wrote on 18.03.2021 at 14:55: Sozialamt has credited me all payout of the casinos no matter where, even if I have paid in and immediately as my win. Now I owe you about 10,000€

Of course they do that. Whether you gamble the coal then again plays nevertheless no role. And pay out to your own bank account if you receive any benefits...
Stupidity is punished. Try to go to work. Maybe you know this from someone in your circle of acquaintances. That's the one where you always have to do something for several hours a day even though you would rather just lie on a plump old lady.

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NoSkill_NoKill
Experienced
The best thing is to go back to the arcade after Corona. There you get your cash immediately without any hassle. Completely without banks or eWallets and no office gets something

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Spielheld
Experienced
Wutmaennchen wrote on 20/03/18 at 19:35: Difficult topic.

Basically, I also rather hold the opinion that everyone can do what he wants with his money.
And Germany is a luxury country. In the USA you couldn't do something like that, you'd be broke.

So to the technical point: Yes, wins from gambling are credited to Hartz4.
But what is interesting for the TE is the time limit.

I have times googled and found the following article:

https://www.hartziv.org/blog/20190618-geldgewinn-bei-hartz-iv-duerfen-leistungsempfaenger-lotto-spielen.html

It says:

Reduction of benefits due to non-recurring income is limited to a continuous period of no more than 6 months.

If you have won 10,000 EUR, they cannot credit you with 10,000 EUR, because the amounts you receive will certainly be less than this 10,000 EUR.
Paragraph: SGB II § 11 paragraph 3


After 6 months, the remaining income becomes assets. If the asset allowance according to § 12 SGB II is not exceeded, the remaining win is spared and can no longer be counted.

There I can not understand why you should now have 10,000 EUR debt.

12 months approx. 2,900€, 73€ installment payment.

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R****3
Play with crypto then you have no trouble

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Apromo
Rookie
Bonushunter77 wrote on 04/15/2022 at 15:42
12 months about 2,900€, 73€ installment.

Hi,

Find a job, pay back installments and let the f**king zockerei be!

I don't know if you have any problems (gambling addiction or something else)
One thing I do know is... you will not be happier with gambling and the problems (if you have any) can not be regulated so

From me only the best and get your ass up 👍


To some answers on the previous pages I can only say: disgusting and disrespectful!

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pokerhafti
Rookie
Bonushunter77 wrote on 18.03.2021 at 14:55: Sozialamt has credited me all payout of the casinos no matter where from, even if I have paid in and immediately as my win. Now I owe you about 10,000€
hi did you explain to them that you are an addict that you might do therapy instead of the € and where are you supposed to pay back so much money?

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Anonym
Bonushunter77 wrote on 03/18/2021 at 16:32: Asozialamt...... ... ... ...

Why asotialamt? These are benefits for the needy paid for by my tax dollars. If you play and win and then you can finance your upkeep from that and not additionally hold out your hand to father state 🙈

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Anonym
u****n wrote on 18.03.2021 at 20:42
In every casino there is a win and loss overview or a Deposit and withdrawal overview, this can all be proven with a screenshot. If there should not be something like that, then simply ask the support for it, they will send you the overview, because they are forced by licensing law to save all transactions over a certain period of time. This way you can prove the net profit, if any, without any problems
If this is not enough, then your clerk is as dumb as a box of rocks and doesn't understand what she actually has to add up. Then you simply pass the documents on to the next higher instance, best to the management, which perhaps has a bit more brains in the brain and justify it reasonably, what was calculated wrong before.

Well that is like the reimbursement of electricity costs, which are also evaluated as income in the month although it is your own money that you have paid there yourself

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moralischverwerflich
Expert
u****n wrote on 18.03.2021 at 20:42
In every casino there is a win and loss overview or a Deposit and withdrawal overview, this can all be proven with a screenshot. If there should not be something like that, then simply ask the support for it, they will send you the overview, because they are forced by licensing law to save all transactions over a certain period of time. This way you can prove the net profit, if any, without any problems
If this is not enough, then your clerk is as dumb as a box of rocks and doesn't understand what she actually has to add up. Then you simply pass the documents on to the next higher authority, best to the management, which perhaps has a bit more brains in the brain and justify it reasonably, what was calculated wrong before.

With what justification should the deposits be deducted from the payments? After all, he has used a "service" for it. If they would calculate like this, it is written in black and white that the state has paid for his entertainment in the casino and he is still rewarded for it and may keep his social benefits as an obolus to his win

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