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Online Casinos in general: Debts due to casinos. (Page 2)

Topic created on 18th Mar. 2021 | Page: 2 of 7 | Answers: 68 | Views: 19,349
Sarkasto
Expert

Debts due to casinos.

18th Mar. 2021, at 06:22 pm CET#11
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Hidaruma wrote on 18/03/2021 at 16:51: Am I seeing this right? Some jackass is playing online casino with my taxes?

Again for really stupid: yes. And not only one. 😉 And what do you want to do about it now? 🤣 Apart from the fact that you have far too much time here to knock your stupid sayings to actually do something for your bread. 😄

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Anonym

Debts due to casinos.

18th Mar. 2021, at 06:40 pm CET#12
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I personally think the thread creator is playing the game of throwing sticks and enjoying seeing who jumps right behind.

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MagnusHartz
Rookie

Debts due to casinos.

18th Mar. 2021, at 07:11 pm CET#13
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If anyone here can say anything on the subject, it's me

How do they know about your cashouts?

He, like me, can do what he wants with his monthly payout from the state!
No one is free to judge. After all, anyone can do the same.

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Shirley1989
Rookie

Debts due to casinos.

18th Mar. 2021, at 07:16 pm CET#14
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Hidaruma wrote on 18/03/2021 at 16:51: Am I seeing this right? Some jackass is playing online casino with my taxes?

disgusting!

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Butterbrezel
Elite

Debts due to casinos.

18th Mar. 2021, at 07:35 pm CET#15
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Difficult subject.

Basically, I'm also of the opinion that everyone can do what they want with their money.
And Germany is a luxury country. You couldn't do that in the U.S., you'd be broke.

So to the technical point: Yes, wins from gambling are credited to Hartz4.
But what is interesting for the TE is the time limit.

I have times googled and found the following article:

https://www.hartziv.org/blog/20190618-geldgewinn-bei-hartz-iv-duerfen-leistungsempfaenger-lotto-spielen.html

It says:

Reduction of benefits based on nonrecurring income is limited to a continuous period not to exceed 6 months.

If you have won 10,000 EUR, they cannot credit you with 10,000 EUR, because the amounts you receive will certainly be less than this 10,000 EUR.
Paragraph: SGB II § 11 paragraph 3

After 6 months, the remaining income becomes assets. If the asset allowance according to § 12 SGB II is not exceeded, the remaining win is spared and can no longer be counted.

So I can't understand why you should now have 10,000 EUR in debt.

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Wengust
Experienced

Debts due to casinos.

18th Mar. 2021, at 07:46 pm CET#16
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And how does the sozi know that you play casino? How is that regulated with you please?
Do you have to bring bank statements or what?

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Hidaruma
Top Member

Debts due to casinos.

18th Mar. 2021, at 08:15 pm CET#17
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warennn wrote on 18.03.2021 at 18:22
Again for very stupid: yes. And not only one. 😉 And what will you do about it now? 🤣 Apart from the fact that you have far too much time here to knock your stupid sayings to actually do something for your bread. 😄

I don't want to do anything about it. Just find it a pity that people use their social benefits for gambling instead of for the actually intended things.

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NoSkill_NoKill
Experienced

Debts due to casinos.

18th Mar. 2021, at 08:22 pm CET#18
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Hidaruma wrote on 03/18/2021 at 8:15 PM

I don't want to do anything about it. Just find it a pity that people use their social benefits for gambling instead of the things actually intended.

Everyone should do what they want with their money, no matter where it comes from. No matter whether office or work. Taxes pay all!

Just do not go toil yourself if you kotzt with envy in the beam

In addition, in the arcades are 60% Hartz 4 people and mostly which with migration background, so if you have problems with people who let her Hartzer through, then have times so ne big face in the halls and says it to those personally, instead of blaspheming here, but probably lack the eggs..

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Spielheld
Amateur

Debts due to casinos.

18th Mar. 2021, at 08:33 pm CET#19
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Krabbenburger wrote on 03/18/2021 at 5:11 PM
Just for understanding again:
If you deposited 50€ in a casino and cashed out 100€, they treated it as if you had income of 100€ ?

Yes. Every cent I cashed out is added up, even if I deposited 20€ at Hyperino and didn't play with it and cashed out directly the money is considered a win. Although that is my money. Unfair but I can not prove that to the office
What I have paid is not taken into account.

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u****n

Debts due to casinos.

18th Mar. 2021, at 08:42 pm CET#20
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Bonushunter77 wrote on 18/03/2021 at 20:33
Every cent paid out is added up, even if I deposited 20€ at Hyperino and didn't play with it and paid out directly the money is considered a win. Although that is my money. Unfair but I can not prove that to the office
What I have paid is not taken into account.

In every casino there is a win and loss overview or a Deposit and withdrawal overview, which can be proven with a screenshot. If there is no such thing, then simply ask the support for it, they will send you the overview, because they are forced by licensing law to save all transactions over a certain period of time. This way you can prove the net profit, if any, without any problems
If this is not enough, then your clerk is as dumb as a box of rocks and doesn't understand what she actually has to add up. Then you simply pass the documents on to the next higher instance, preferably to the management, which perhaps has a bit more brains in its brain, and give reasonable reasons for what was calculated incorrectly before.

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