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Online Casinos in general: DAMA N.V. - Group - Bonus conditions (Page 4)

Topic created on 20th Oct. 2024 | Page: 4 of 4 | Answers: 50 | Views: 2,231
T0uchTheSky
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22nd Oct. 2024, at 01:32 am CEST#46
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Falke wrote on 22.10.2024 at 01:22:

Some people just care about Bonuses and others just care about pure RTP. I belong to the second category. I never take a Deposit bonus and only ever play with cash. The RTP is important to me. If I also get Cashback or something with wagerfree, then I'm happy to take it, but I don't really care. Only the RTP and instant payout are important to me.

If I deposit now and win something, then I want to get the money paid out immediately.

I simply don't play slots that have less than 96%. It's quite simple. Everyone has different priorities that are important to them when playing.

To be honest, I've never paid attention to the Rtp because I know it's higher everywhere than the casinos with a De license. And fast payout is also important. But if I know that I will get the money 100%, I don't mind waiting a few days. Like with Viggoslots, for example. With Winz, the money is always there after a few minutes or within an hour anyway, whether it's just 50 or 2000 euros.

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T0uchTheSky
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22nd Oct. 2024, at 01:44 am CEST#47
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Sorry for my aggressive tone earlier, been drinking a bit 🤣 Actually I don't want to defend Winz or say GUTS either, everyone plays where they feel comfortable. Platin is the best place 🤣

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Falke
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22nd Oct. 2024, at 04:02 am CEST#48
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T0uchTheSky wrote on 22.10.2024 01:32:

Honestly, I never paid attention to the Rtp because I know everywhere is higher than the casinos with De license. And fast payout is important too. But, if I know I'll get the money 100%, I don't mind waiting a few days. Like with Viggoslots, for example. With Winz, the money is always there after a few minutes or within an hour anyway, whether it's just 50 or 2000 euros.

That's my point. That's my point. Different things are important to different people. For example, I'm very impatient when it comes to payouts. Also because I'm one of those people who like to cancel a payout. And it also feels different when you get the money immediately. If I had to wait 2 or 3 days, I'd think I'd play a little longer and make more of it. But if I get the money immediately, I'll withdraw it all and then make a small Deposit again.


There's much less Risk of gambling it all away again if the money has already been paid out. You know how money in a casino account somehow has a different value and you don't really see it as a real amount of money.

And of course I choose the 96% RTP for a logical reason: there are probably thousands of online casinos. And among them are very many that offer fast or even instant payouts and have a 96% RTP. I simply don't see the point in playing at a casino with a lower RTP. After all, they are the same games. So why not opt for the highest payout percentage?

But of course. If bonus offers are very important to you, then I can understand that it's not quite so important. But the way I play, it wouldn't make sense.

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Falke
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22nd Oct. 2024, at 04:09 am CEST#49
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Pat1991 wrote on 10/22/2024 at 01:28 AM: Nothing there, period. Do you know how much extra they take in like that!

Let me do the math for you:

A player plays on 1 EUR a spin, makes 2 cents more average loss per spin. He plays 40 spins per minute (I just pulled that number out of my ass), that's 80 cents more. The whole thing times 30 minutes playing time, makes a very relaxed 24 EUR extra loss per session.

The whole thing x times over many players.

Your great extra 10-cent no-deposit spins are quickly recouped


Again for the really stupid:

1 EUR player x 40 spins per minute x 30 minutes on RTP 96.5% = 42 EUR loss per session on average

1 EUR player x 40 spins per minute x 30 minutes on RTP 94.5% = 66 EUR loss per session on average = 66


But 94.5% is still good, right?

AMAZING!!!

I agree with you and only play at 96%. On principle alone.


But your calculation doesn't work for most players. Very few players have themselves so well under control. Many players experience again and again that they win something, but then lose again. In other words: with a higher RTP, these players can play longer, but the total loss still occurs. So if someone plays for an hour at 96%, they would have played for 45 minutes at 94%.

This generates more revenue, but ultimately has no effect. And from this perspective, it's actually pretty stupid of the casinos. Although most players don't know about an RTP, you still notice it in the fun of the game. A higher RTP means more free spins and free spins that pay better on average. And that ensures customer loyalty.

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frapi07
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22nd Oct. 2024, at 02:06 pm CEST#50
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Payout time and RTP are also much more important to me than any bonuses. Apart from cashback/rakeback w/e, I hardly use any Bonuses, i.e. Deposit bonuses etc.

If I'm honest, Winz isn't super good in terms of Cashback either. When I think of Pino, you get up to 20% daily cashback there. Status doesn't matter, it depends on the loss. At Winz you only get a few % at the beginning and you have to wager a lot until you get this 20%... but maybe I'm calculating wrong

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zocker0815
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22nd Oct. 2024, at 06:04 pm CEST#51
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T0uchTheSky wrote on 21.10.2024 at 23:26: So many people here talk about Winz, apart from gamblers probably nobody here has a clue about Winz. Just because the Rrp at Winz is now 94.5%, some are now saying, yes, but many other casinos have 96.5%.

At which casino do you get the chance to spin the wheel of fortune 3 times a week? Everything whether cash or FS is turnover-free. Yes, I have often received 200 or 400 FS at 20 cents each, and I have received 1.5 Ltc from the wheel several times. That's over 100 euros each time. And rackback and levelup is all cash. Prizes from the lottery and the Tournament are also free. At some other casinos, the prizes have to be wagered at least 3 times, at some even 35 times.

And since Pat only plays slots above 96%, he should be rich by now. But no, he's always complaining, like today, that he's lost 1000 since 2023.

The patient will be back in a minute to argue for shit again.


Anyone who has no idea about Winz should just shut the f**k up...

well said "zocker0815" like your comment" xD



psssssss... among us tiny players the wheel is just -50% i just saw

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