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Online Casinos in general: Consequences after July 1, 2021 (Page 50)

Topic created on 18th May. 2021 | Page: 50 of 95 | Answers: 942 | Views: 343,356
WhatAboutTism
Rookie
Those who still play at MGA OC have only themselves to blame. There are more than enough alternatives. Just use crypto and a few of the well-known e-wallets (not exactly Skrill or Neteller) and things will continue as normal

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WhatAboutTism
Rookie

unicorn wrote on 20.07.2021 at 04:03: In your source, every Hans and Franz can write something in, it is not a serious sources. You can't impress anyone with your Google knowledge, because you misunderstand everything that can be misunderstood. The freedom to provide services according to European law can only be invoked by companies or individuals who offer a service in another Eu country than the one in which they are based

My former European law professor would laugh his ass off if he knew what you are saying


Not to mention the notification procedure that has been waved through and of which the said user has no idea. The sources linked here are pure nonsense and have nothing to do with the legal standard in DE which is valid

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WhatAboutTism
Rookie

Antiheld1335 wrote on 20.07.2021 at 04:30
On the subject of freedom to provide services, the ECJ has already clearly stated more than once that it is a subordinate right which - to the extent that interests worthy of protection conflict with it - can be restricted at any time by national law.

Correct. That is the only issue.

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u****n
Katharina2 wrote on 19.07.2021 at 22:24
Of course, if I order today in Holland in a pharmacy, I get it, although it is not available over the counter in DE.

i'm really starting to feel sorry for you. Please stop talking such nonsense. Apart from the fact that this would be a case of free movement of goods, this is complete bullshit. The introduction of narcotics into the economic and commercial traffic of the European un ion is forbidden, there are also no exceptions:

"In its judgment, the European Court of Justice first points out that the harmfulness of narcotics, including those based on hemp, is generally recognized and that their marketing is prohibited in all Member States;" (source: https://www.rechtslupe.de/europarecht/hollaendische-coffeeshops-und-ihre-deutschen-besucher-324674)

You can't even enter many coffeeshops in Holland as a German anymore and this ban was even confirmed by the EUGH itself in a ruling:

" The ECJ ruled that the ban on sales to people who did not live in the Netherlands did indeed mean a restriction on the freedom to provide services. However, this was permissible in the context of the fight against drugs, and the fight against cannabis tourism constituted a part of this fight against drugs. According to the court, Maastricht is already allowed to ban non-residents from entering coffee shops, even if they only want to consume legal goods such as soft drinks or edibles. " (Source: neue Zürcher Zeitung)

And nobody is talking about a pharmacy here anyway, because it's not about medical cannabis. Because you would also get that legally in a German pharmacy with a doctor's prescription and you don't need to ask in a Dutch pharmacy.

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BenOssi123
Rookie
WhatAboutTism wrote on 07/20/2021 at 12:57 PM: Anyone who still plays at MGA OC has only themselves to blame. There are more than enough alternatives. Just use crypto and a few of the known e-wallets (not exactly Skrill or Neteller) and things will continue as normal.

For this, however, you would also have to be familiar with crypto. ZZ gehts yes with the courses rather direction south...

In general, I do not understand the calculation with deposits and withdrawals in crypto? How is the value calculated? Is my 0.3 Bitcoin then converted to the current level in euros?

And then wouldn't everyone cash out when the rates go up to have more cash? The rates change every minute...

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cbz490
Experienced
I don't understand how you can justify this as a "forum", people who spread fakenews should be banned altogether.

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WhatAboutTism
Rookie
BenOssi123 wrote on 20.07.2021 at 14:58
For this, however, one would also have to be familiar with crypto. ZZ gehts yes with the courses rather direction south...

In general, I do not understand the calculation with deposits and withdrawals in crypto? How is the value calculated? Is my 0.3 Bitcoin then converted to the current level in euros?

And wouldn't everyone then pay out when the rates rise to have more cash? After all, the rates change by the minute...

Not necessarily. If you don't want to use crypto you can also use e-wallets. There are a lot that are perhaps less known here in DE such as Mifinity or Ecopayz. There you can also Deposit via Klarna/Giropay/CC and then post back and forth as you like


With crypto, this is purely dependent on the daily exchange rate. Nevertheless, you don't need to be an expert to use this

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WhatAboutTism wrote on 07/20/2021 at 3:28 PM
Not necessarily. If you don't want to use crypto you can also use e-wallets. There are a lot that are maybe less known here in DE like Mifinity or Ecopayz. There you can also Deposit via Klarna/Giropay/CC and then post back and forth as you like


With crypto, this is purely dependent on the daily exchange rate. Nevertheless, you don't need to be an expert to use this.

Well, I have been in the crypto market for many years and I have to say, without wanting to attack you, that I find your statement "nevertheless, you don't need to be an expert to use this" negligent

Maybe you don't have to be an "expert" to use the whole thing but you should deal extensively with the whole topic

Many who have nothing to do with the matter, do not understand what a blockchain is or have no idea which coins are processed the fastest and or have the lowest fees.
In addition, one should deal with the fluctuations of the market, know when to possibly sell in FIAT or convert to "stable" coins to intercept a price slump or also from which Provider one should not make casino payments and or which wallets one should use - to name just a few points

After all, we are talking about double gambling here - a payout the next morning can suddenly be worth much more but also much less than at the state of the actual payout

As I said, no personal attack, but I think you need to know more than just where I can buy coins.

I still have one question, why do you advise against Skrill / Neteller?
Use especially Skrill without any problems and conspicuousness

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Seb0402
Visitor
What are your experiences in July since all OCs switch?
I'm starting to feel really stupid...since my stammcasino is no longer available I try it here and there...

Conclusion in 3 weeks 5 digit amount gone no matter whether RTP normal or less than before...for me that was it now for now if you play 2K legacy of dead at several OCs and on 1-3 euro stake only 1 time free spins with 30x gets this is just a joke
do you know where you can lock for all OCs or how does it work?

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BenOssi123
Rookie
Seb0402 wrote on 21.07.2021 at 09:05: What are your experiences in July since all OCs switch?
I'm starting to feel really stupid...since my stammcasino is no longer available I try it here and there...

Conclusion in 3 weeks 5 digit amount gone no matter whether RTP normal or less than before...for me that was it now for now if you play 2K legacy of dead at several OCs and on 1-3 euro stake only 1 time free spins with 30x gets this is just a joke
do you know where you can lock for all OCs or how does it work?

Under the current circumstances, I would be careful with lock everywhere. Yes the OC pay zZ partly catastrophically. I have also wanted to note with my Fred to Pragmatic, simply because I know how the slots ran until February.
Nevertheless, this does not mean that there can be a handful of OC in the future, in which you can play properly again. Without tax, though, I don't think it's going to happen unless you want to branch out to a Curacao/crypto casino.

And before I sit in a Spielo with RtP of 30%, I'll definitely stay online.

What helps, I guess, is just not to put so much money into it.

And as a little tip...there are better providers than PlaynGo 😉

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