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Online Casinos in general: Consequences after July 1, 2021 (Page 46)

Topic created on 18th May. 2021 | Page: 46 of 95 | Answers: 942 | Views: 343,388
Maho78
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Consequences after July 1, 2021

17th Jul. 2021, at 08:35 am CEST#455
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ruhrpott wrote on 16.07.2021 at 03:14: With Slotwolf works at the moment as good as no provider. Gamomat, Play N Go, Pragmatic, Netent and some others not available in my region.

At VoodooDreams the same fun. Play N Go works (still), but Gamomat and Pragmatic also not.

Meanwhile, the casinos and / or providers can me times elsewhere. The best thing is not to play at all.
You pay in, because you think it all works like until yesterday, and then you can not even play what you actually want to play. And that without even getting any info at login.

Hi, just open the game before depositing, then you can see whether it works or not. I always do that to check if the 5sec. Rule was introduced.

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Pima007
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Consequences after July 1, 2021

17th Jul. 2021, at 10:42 am CEST#456
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Somehow all this makes no sense what DE is doing.

Money is now gone faster on slots with less RTP. Higher RTP money gone faster due to tax.

What does that have to do with Player protection now

Since max 1€ and 5 sec rules also does not help if the providers lower the RTP more and more.

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agnesaislami
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Consequences after July 1, 2021

17th Jul. 2021, at 11:09 am CEST#457
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Has anyone here still paid out by bank and can say if there were problems? Would interest me times

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Carsten92
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Consequences after July 1, 2021

17th Jul. 2021, at 12:14 pm CEST#458
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agnesaislami wrote on 17.07.2021 at 11:09: Has anyone here still paid out by bank and can say if there were problems? Would be interested

I have in the last few days again and again deposited by bank and also paid out.

No problems - nothing...:-D

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gamble1
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Consequences after July 1, 2021

17th Jul. 2021, at 03:10 pm CEST#459
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Pima007 wrote on 17.07.2021 at 10:42 am: Somehow all this makes no sense what DE is doing.

Money gone faster now on slots with lower RTP. Higher RTP money gone faster due to tax.

What does that have to do with Player protection now

Since max 1€ and 5 sec rules also does not help if the providers lower the RTP more and more.

Quite simply not at all you should not gamble online you should be good to go to the casino if you want to gamble


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Katharina2
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Consequences after July 1, 2021

17th Jul. 2021, at 04:38 pm CEST#460
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gamble1 wrote on 17.07.2021 at 15:10
Simply not at all you are not supposed to gamble online you are supposed to drive to the casino when you want to gamble



That's exactly how it is. They want to steer all the gambling traffic to land casinos by
by totally scrapping the GlüStV 2021. Since German OCs are unattractive, the attractive
attractive Malta OC are preferred. At this point, I'll avoid the: ban for
Players, because there is no such thing. This still has European service
freedom, only casinos are illegal if they offer with full range here and later
do not have a German license. And EU law still takes precedence over national law. Unfortunately
some casinos see it differently and so some lose their favorite casino.
But there are enough other OC. Am also currently just looking, sorting, check, because daily OC availability can change, not must

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Das_Phantom
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Consequences after July 1, 2021

17th Jul. 2021, at 08:23 pm CEST#461
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Katharina2 wrote on 07/17/2021 at 16:38
Exactly. They want to direct all gaming traffic to land casinos by
they totally scrap the GlüStV 2021. Since German OC are unattractive, the
attractive Malta OC are preferred. At this point, I'll avoid the: ban for
Players, because there is no such thing. This still has European service
freedom, only casinos are illegal if they offer with full range here and later
do not have a German license. And EU law still takes precedence over national law. Unfortunately
some casinos see it differently and so some lose their favorite casino.
But there are enough other OC. Am also currently just looking, sorting, check, because daily OC availability can change, not must.

Old Swede... How many times? That Eu law does not apply before national law in relation to gambling, has been confirmed several times by the court!!! Inform yourself properly... First this bullshit with your domains. Now this ultra-old hat with the freedom of services... you're so not up to date what the legal situation..

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Anonym

Consequences after July 1, 2021

17th Jul. 2021, at 10:55 pm CEST#462
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Das_Phantom wrote on 07/17/2021 at 20:23
Old Swede... How many times? That Eu law does not apply before national law in relation to gambling, has already been confirmed several times by the court!!! Inform yourself properly... First this bullshit with your domains. Now this ultra-old hat with the freedom of services... you're so not up to date what the legal situation...

Thank you, that's how it looks; Everything that comes is always the same, pseudo-legal babble. Can really no longer read slowly.

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Anonym

Consequences after July 1, 2021

17th Jul. 2021, at 11:08 pm CEST#463
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Catherine2 wrote on 07/17/2021 at 16:38
Ban for
Players, because there is no such thing. This still has European service
freedom, only casinos are illegal, if they offer with full range here and later
do not have a German license. And EU law still takes precedence over national law.

Excuse me, what are you actually talking here for a sky-scraping bullshit?

1. The player has no freedom of services, but the one who offers a service.
2. Gambling is illegal, even for players, if no license has been issued, this has been the case up to now, and it will remain so; however, the whole thing will not be prosecuted, cf. the case law of the Munich Higher Regional Court, as well as the Bavarian Fiscal Court from last year. In a case concerning the reimbursement of stakes, the judges explained in the written reasons for their ruling why participation in gambling with a European license is illegal, but cannot be prosecuted under German law.
3. In a case in which a gambling Provider brought an action against the German ban, the EU Court of Justice expressly stated that the freedom to provide services may be restricted by law by the member states if there are good and justifiable reasons for doing so (e.g., prevention of gambling addiction)

So, just a few facts; it would be nice if you would spread less fakenews and assumptions in the future

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WhatAboutTism
Rookie

Consequences after July 1, 2021

18th Jul. 2021, at 12:42 am CEST#464
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Antiheld1335 wrote on 07/17/2021 at 23:08
Excuse me, what kind of sky-scraping bullshit are you actually talking here?

1. The gamer does not have freedom of service, the person providing a service does.
2. Gambling is illegal, even for players, if no license has been issued, that has been the case so far, it remains so; however, the whole thing is not prosecuted, cf. case law of the OLG Munich, as well as the Bavarian Fiscal Court from last year. In a case concerning the reimbursement of stakes, the judges explained in the written reasons for their ruling why participation in gambling with a European license is illegal, but cannot be prosecuted under German law.
3. In a case in which a gambling Provider brought an action against the German ban, the EU Court of Justice expressly stated that the freedom to provide services may be restricted by law by the member states if there are good and justifiable reasons for doing so (e.g., prevention of gambling addiction)

So, just a few facts; it would be nice if you would spread less fakenews and assumptions in the future.

That is summarized quite well. I would add that so-called chargebacks in this sense fall back on the player like a boomerang (Say: Gives nothing back) because apart from a determination of criminal liability, the courts argue that the customers of OC can not plead ignorance of the legal situation which is relevant.

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