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Online Casinos in general: [Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player (Page 7)

Topic created on 20th Jan. 2020 | Page: 7 of 27 | Answers: 262 | Views: 67,645
Born4Nothing
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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

21st Jan. 2020, at 01:14 pm CET#64
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That's exactly what I meant: You talk about money but if you would understand the complexity and that even in the approach and read my posts carefully then you would notice that it is not about the money to me!

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Bvb1995
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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

21st Jan. 2020, at 01:20 pm CET#65
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Born4Nothing wrote on 21.01.2020 at 13:14 clock: Exactly what I meant: You talk about money but if you would understand the complexity and that even in the approach and read my posts carefully then you would notice that I'm not about the money!

You keep saying it's not about money

But why did you want to kill yourself ?

Please explain and do you really think that if you win you will change something?

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Mo1985
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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

21st Jan. 2020, at 01:23 pm CET#66
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Montanablack had to pay 30k for illegal gambling to get the case dropped.

Take a look at Youtube for the channel Kanzlei WBS. They uploaded a good video 4 days ago.

The Chargebacken will eventually be overturned by a court, that much is certain. Then all Chargebacker must pay and then livelihoods will be destroyed.

No one really wants to protect the players and all those who use chargeback and have not yet reached a settlement will be fired...

The state will grab the casino operators and licensing authorities. I am sure that soon on Malta the handcuffs click.

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Born4Nothing
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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

21st Jan. 2020, at 01:26 pm CET#67
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@Bvb1995

Not because of the money I have burned because money is only money and can be regulated.

Rather, because I have destroyed with my action everything but also everything that I have built up over decades, completely my whole existence. Since one comes already times such thoughts and you cannot switch off also. That goes as if by itself.

@Gamer777

As long as there is no ban, everyone may do what he wants. But if there is a ban, all others have to comply with it!


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Bvb1995
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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

21st Jan. 2020, at 01:30 pm CET#68
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Born4Nothing wrote on 21.01.2020 at 13:26: @Bvb1995

Not because of the money I burned because money is just money and can be regulated.

Rather, because I have destroyed with my action everything but also everything that I have built up over decades, completely my whole existence. Since one comes already times such thoughts and you cannot switch off also. That goes as if by itself.

@Gamer777

As long as there is no ban, everyone may do what he wants. But if there is a ban, all others have to comply with it!



So but for money ? Or how did you lose your existence?

Is everything connected and in the end it is always about money

I would have sought help in your place and try to forget everything. Not that in the end everything will be worse even if you think now it will not be

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Born4Nothing
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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

21st Jan. 2020, at 01:35 pm CET#69
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@Bvb1995

i've been match-free since July 2019 which I've already written. And no, I'm not running away from anyone and I'm certainly not cowering in the corner.

Please don't, you keep going in circles because you just don't understand or don't want to understand or can't understand the complexity...

Well, is just so but I have now clarified my point of view several times and I just wanted to put right that here the word "CHARGEBACK" was used in the wrong consensus!

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Bvb1995
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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

21st Jan. 2020, at 01:37 pm CET#70
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But I'm out VG you doing it mean it seriously

Hope you win it just because of that so you can finish it and move on

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Born4Nothing
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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

21st Jan. 2020, at 01:40 pm CET#71
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Oh dear, really now? What I want I've already written umpteen times but unfortunately you do not understand it...

Unlike you, I have a different affinity for money but as you said: I'm out

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DerSkandalierer
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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

21st Jan. 2020, at 01:45 pm CET#72
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Born4Nothing wrote on 01/21/2020 at 12:48 PM: @Gamer777

Lost more? Is the number really that relevant?

The single mother who has nothing more to eat because of the Gambling addiction because you stuffed the money from the office in the machine and now both have to suffer hunger and go to the tables; not to mention the rent! The gets Harz4...

The entrepreneur who gambled away millions stands at the end just like the mother of the child who suffers from it!

Ultimately, all end up in the same hole and it is more than just irrelevant how much money it is.

People end up in the same hole as long as neither of them is willing to face their addiction, to see their own mistakes and to actively do something about it. Seek help, etc.... Online gambling has little to do with this. For those affected, it doesn't matter where they gamble their money away. There are plenty of gambling opportunities even without online gambling.


  • The fatso who eats burgers at McDoof and WürgerKing every day will die of obesity one day. And now it's the state's fault because burger sales are not banned, limited or regulated?

  • The junkie dies of a heroin overdose, if he is not ready to take up the fight against his addiction. All because the state doesn't ban it - oh, wait a minute ...

  • Karl-Heinz Saufenkopp has a fatty liver from years of drinking. If the state doesn't finally ban alcohol, he won't make it much longer. Karl-Heinz only drinks vodka down his throat, so it would be sufficient to ban only vodka. Do the vodka manufacturers even have a German license?

  • Mandy, a shopping addict, just can't stop ordering worthless junk on Amazon and accumulates debts as a result. On Amazon, you can buy 24/7. No regulated opening hours. Let's ban online stores!



All of the above fates could be prevented if the above things were finally banned.

The players are a factor and I don't dispute that but the others also bear the responsibility and the LG Ulm has made it clear: The ban is individual protective! The OC but has not interested and have continued to hold up their hand because the ban was indifferent to them, what it is still, you only need to look at the OC advertising on TV, because SH is so big that you can turn on for it nationwide advertising except it live loud millionaires in SH^^

Is a ban just? I mean 35 years ago it was forbidden for a part of the Germans to leave the country. 80 years ago it was forbidden to be a Jew. In 20 years it may be forbidden to breathe and 70% of the earth's population will be gassed for climate protection or otherwise brought around the corner. But the law is the law and you have to abide by it!

Why should Online Casinos be forbidden? Why should gambling be forbidden? Why should something be forbidden, with which I harm no one else (at most myself and my family)?

If I want, I gamble away 3,000€ from you all today without online casinos and even without normal casinos. It's not specifically the online casinos, the state, the central committee or whatever. It's each and every one of us. When one door closes, a new one opens. This principle applies in both positive and negative ways.

Apart from it came earlier commercials in the TV where one is suggested. FAIR, LEGAL and 100% SAFE! The legal situation was not clear to many and that is exactly what the whole apparatus has also exploited and all have dutifully pocketed the money, and PayPal just too!

Most casinos with proper license are also fair and safe. And the ban or the discussion about it is for me personally completely uninteresting. What interests me is my own recovery and maybe there are here and there times a few people with what you can start, so that you work together on the gambling addiction.

Who is the main culprit now? Those where with full intention such a business behavior to the day and with a seeing eye or those where slipped into the addiction because it is assumed that everything is FAIR, LEGAL and 100% SAFE, as in the advertising suggerit!

Any questions?

The main blame lies with the one who plays beyond his means or finds a problem with himself and does not get going and seriously does something.

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Falko
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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

21st Jan. 2020, at 01:53 pm CET#73
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Born4Nothing wrote on 21.01.2020 at 13:35: @Bvb1995

i'm game free since July 2019 which I've already written. And no, I'm not running away from anyone and I'm certainly not cowering in the corner.

Please don't, you keep going in circles because you just don't understand or don't want to understand or can't understand the complexity...

Well, is just so but I have now clarified my point of view several times and I just wanted to put right that here the word "CHARGEBACK" was used in the wrong consensus!

I understand that so you have over a certain phase of life something created with save and then have this hard over a long time saved over a short time everything on the head hit (gambled away) ? And then that hurt you so much that you had suicidal thoughts afterwards? I'm really glad that I feel the mental pain already as soon as it is not enough in the month times me something to put aside and thus never the danger exists that I start to gamble away my savings in the online casino.

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