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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player
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You do not understand why? Then please read my posts correctly. The why I had already written in the first post in this thread.
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Saphira, 
sippi, 
Spectral
Fact is, Gambling addiction or not:
A gambling addict always tries to find his way to continue gambling. I speak from my own experience
I was registered at certainly 100 casinos, partly in one evening times 4000 € gambled away, or from 20,000 € down to 0, totally desperate - deregistered with self-blocking because of gambling addiction. Then I went to bed exhausted. The next day I went back online and registered at a new casino.
I would have wanted to jump off the bridge 50 times, but on the other hand, no amount of money is worth ending your life and leaving your wife and child with debts.
What I'm saying;
If you sign up with casinos and pay all your money in is your own fault.
Then to blame casinos and PayPal and the banks is completely wrong. Chargeback or PayPal sue you can do if you with the money you get back his life in order, but many will probably gamble it away.
And I'm not talking here as an outsider, but someone who does not want pity but is himself affected.
But the blame lies solely with me, neither at the gambling addiction as a recognized disease nor at anyone else - every gambling addict should just admit that !!!!
Believe me, I have experienced many things, am addicted to gambling, but admit to myself that I alone am responsible for it, neither PayPal nor the casino nor banks.
This is just my personal opinion from many bitter experiences and problems that I have to answer for myself.
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Lost more? Is the number really that relevant?
The single mother who has nothing more to eat because of the Gambling addiction because you stuffed the money from the office in the vending machine and now both have to suffer hunger and go to the tables; not to mention the rent! The gets Harz4...
The entrepreneur who gambled away millions stands at the end just like the mother of the child who suffers from it!
Ultimately, all end up in the same hole and it is more than just irrelevant how much money it is.
The players are a factor and I don't deny that, but the others also bear the responsibility and the LG Ulm has made it clear: The ban is individual protective! The OC but has not interested and have continued to hold up their hand because the ban was indifferent to them, what it is still, you only need to look at the OC advertising on TV, because SH is so big that you can turn on for it nationwide advertising unless there live loud millionaires in SH ^^^
Apart from that came earlier commercials on TV where one is suggested. FAIR, LEGAL and 100% SAFE! Many was not clear the legal situation and exactly that has the whole apparatus also exploited and all have dutifully raked in the money, and PayPal just too!
Who carries now the main guilt? Those where with full intent such a business behavior to the day and with a sighted eye or those where slipped into the addiction because it is assumed that everything, as in the advertising suggerit, FAIR, LEGAL and 100% SECURE is!
Any questions?
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RebellYell, 
Saphira, 
sippi
Sure is advertised on TV, legal and safe casinos, but everyone should know that as in the lottery only a few win and most lose and in the casino is similar.
I myself am an entrepreneur, but only a small one and drive old cars, because I gambled away the money I would have had to invest in the company.
And who gets Hartz4 knows that he has only 400 euros of the so for food, which is then to gamble away irresponsible.
Some time ago there was also cigarette advertising in the cinema and television, yet I have not started smoking because I know that it harms my body.
I claim here simply times that I can talk here because I myself am affected. Others write here a lot although they themselves have not so much through.
But everyone has so his opinion and I also admit your opinion.
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When I read this, I simply start to become a drug Dealer!
The addicts are solely to blame and not the dealers!
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Have now read through everything do not understand it anyway!
Because of money you wanted to kill yourself ? Because you had lost?
But what if you lose money again now, then you have lost even more money?
Then you are in more trouble and more frustration wouldn't it be better to cut off and seek help?
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Just briefly, of course the dealers are partly to blame, but the addicts themselves the most.
To take your example: I live here not far from the border with the Czech Republic. If I wanted to, I could go there anytime and get drugs.
But I don't. Why not ? Because it leaves me cold and does not interest me. Even if the drugs would be given away or there would be something else, I am not interested in the drugs...... ...
It's the same with casinos. Many are not interested, others become addicted.
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That's not the point in your comparison with cigarettes is wrong. Where please is in the law a ban on cigarettes!
There is such a ban on gambling and everyone has to abide by it! Without such a ban, everyone must decide for themselves how to deal with his body
OC make massive advertising for it, offer German-language websites for it incl. German AGB. Who acts so, and you should know as an entrepreneur, no matter how small or large one is, must adhere, and that without exception to the laws in the respective country!
But what do the OC, does not itch, no matter, we get away with it! The payment service providers such as PP is just as indifferent as the OC as long as only the ruble rolls!
And to the addicts: The are due to the serious consequences which the addiction brings with it hardly still in a position to be able to make rational decisions! Is already bad enough and that is mercilessly exploited by the gambling industry and they go over corpses!
@Bvb1995
If you still do not understand why and why then this is unfortunate and a pity but then biste the complex topic not grown.
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If you lose I hope for your sake that you get over it and don't have bad thoughts again
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Saphira, 
sippi, 
Zwischenmeister
Maybe we are talking past each other, but no matter.
But do I have to do everything that is allowed ? E.g. with smoking, alcohol ? Do I have to drink 2 bottles of vodka a day just because it is allowed ? No. !
I want to say that gambling is extremely addictive for one person and he does not get away from it, the other does not care in the slightest.
If I say to myself, I don't want to pay into the casino, nobody forces me to do so, even if it is advertised on TV.
I also don't buy a car that is advertised on TV if I don't need it or don't want it.
You can play the lottery on every corner here in Germany, but you don't have to and no one is forcing me to.
EVERYONE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HIMSELF, except for people who have a guardian because they are not mentally capable of making rational decisions!
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