[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

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MarcT22186

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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

21st Jan. 2020, at 08:34 am CET#23

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Grinderstyle wrote on 21.01.2020 at 02:51: @kobold I study the stuff and not in the 1st semester. I am aware of what German criminal law says about it. However, there is not only German criminal law that may need to be considered here. Furthermore, I did not refer explicitly to your post, but addressed this to the entirety at the commentators. The legal "facts" are simply not true.

Why don't you give your point of view as an insider? As you have already correctly recognized, this discussion is conducted by laypersons and an assessment by someone with a clue would certainly not hurt

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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

21st Jan. 2020, at 09:08 am CET#24

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Herould wrote on 20.01.2020 at 22:35: I hope it does not work, because then it's over with bank transfer to the online casino.No bank will process more deposits to the online casino.And every gambler gets current account terminations,no bank can be made liable for gamblers;and thus the era of online gaming is over very quickly.

would be great ...then this dirt finally stops ...

Would be nice if the banks then make a stop and it is no longer possible to transfer to these providers ...

However, surely the banks also earn with it ?

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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

21st Jan. 2020, at 09:11 am CET#25

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Now I would like to speak up because it was me who instigated this.

You all seem to misjudge that this is not about chargeback but about much more and I have the impression that you are not aware of what is promoted by these rotten machinations for suffering to the day!

Füchtenschnieder advises for years people who have succumbed to the lure of colorful machines and virtual Roulette tables. "Gambling addiction is an unremarkable addiction," she reports. "We're not talking about people who go to the casino once a year, but a serious disease with dire consequences."

Fathers who have gambled away the family fortune report to her counseling center in Bielefeld. Older women who have lost their retirement savings via casino app. And many who want to quit but keep falling off the wagon. "The suicide rate is high," Füchtenschnieder says. "The business has to end. At the very least, the illegal payments have to be stopped."

Yes, and it happened to me as well and I seriously thought about how to commit suicide in the best and fastest way: Knife in the throat, slit my wrists, throw myself in front of the train or jump from the balcony or house and that scared me so much that I didn't do it but was hair-trigger.

Afterwards I dealt with the matter intensively and looked for help and since then I have been committed to putting an end to this activity, because I know enough cases and what suffering is caused by it. The dark figure of suicide is high but I have also witnessed how an acquaintance of my former neighbor on the basis of gambling addiction, has hanged himself in the attic of the parents' house!

This experience has hit me very hard, because for the bereaved the suffering is much greater! From then on I have taken up the fight to do everything in my power to put an end to these goings-on, cost me what it will but I am a man who does not simply look the other earn a golden nose and put the profit over life!

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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

21st Jan. 2020, at 09:56 am CET#26

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Freddy wrote on 01/21/2020 at 00:21 PM

Regarding the ruling, I assume that PayPal will not appeal.

Wrong assumption because Paypal has already filed the appeal at the OLG Stuttgart, with receipt on 11.01.2020!

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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

21st Jan. 2020, at 10:07 am CET#27

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Born4Nothing wrote on 21.01.2020 at 09:11: Now I would like to speak out because it was me who instigated this.

You all seem to misjudge that this is not about chargeback but about much more and I have the impression that you are not aware of what is promoted by these rotten machinations for suffering to the day!

Yes, and also me it happened so and I thought seriously about how I can commit suicide best and fastest: Knife in the throat, slit my wrists, throw myself in front of the train or jump from the balcony or house and that scared me so much that I didn't do it but it was a hair's breadth.

Afterwards I dealt with the matter intensively and looked for help and since then I have been committed to putting an end to this activity, because I know enough cases and what suffering is caused by it. The dark figure of suicide is high but I have also witnessed how an acquaintance of my former neighbor on the basis of Gambling addiction, has hanged himself in the attic of the parents' house!

This experience has hit me very hard, because for the bereaved the suffering is much greater! From then on I have taken up the fight to do everything in my power to put an end to these goings-on, cost me what it will but I am a man who does not simply look the other earn a golden nose and put the profit over life!

First of all: Chargeback is the final consequence, regardless of all good intentions. Personally, I think it's good that someone has the ass in his pants to pull this through and test the (legal) limits!

Are you personally (actively) involved in the case?

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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

21st Jan. 2020, at 10:14 am CET#28

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In such a case, will proceedings actually be initiated against the player? Because of the participation in gambling?

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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

21st Jan. 2020, at 10:19 am CET#29

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Stromberg wrote on 21.01.2020 at 10:14 am: Is in such a case then actually also initiated proceedings against the player? Because of the participation in gambling?

No, once you have free - very roughly summarized!
However, if you are caught again, it runs like on the third corner field. Therefore, chargeback is not recommended for addicts without being in therapy

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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

21st Jan. 2020, at 10:20 am CET#30

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MarcT22186 wrote on 01/21/2020 at 10:07 AM
Are you personally (actively) involved in the case?

Had but written that it was I that has instigated. In short: My humble self was the plaintiff before the LG Ulm!

@Stromberg

Even if I am quite indifferent and I would of course bear the consequences!

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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

21st Jan. 2020, at 10:34 am CET#31

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Born4Nothing wrote on 01/21/2020 at 10:20 AM

Had but written that it was I who has instigated this. In short: My humble self was the plaintiff before the LG Ulm!

@Stromberg

Even if I am quite indifferent and I would of course bear the consequences!

Instigated does not necessarily mean that you are also active in court

Do you want to go all the way? So all the way to the Federal Supreme Court?

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21st Jan. 2020, at 10:41 am CET#32

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You are asking me a question that is so far in the future and that I do not want to answer at this time because it would be pure speculation.

You can not predict what will happen in the appeal and I have to react to what happens there just as I did before the LG Ulm and drove super with it. Everything else will show the time

Now PP has 2 months to justify the appeal and then we'll see.

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