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Online Casinos in general: [Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player (Page 24)

Topic created on 20th Jan. 2020 | Page: 24 of 27 | Answers: 262 | Views: 68,055
wettibernd
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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

26th Jun. 2020, at 09:05 am CEST#234
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Perhaps it should be mentioned that after his release from prison he immediately had 70000€ in Debt, since his private assets were confiscated by the public prosecutor's office. With it process costs were covered and the remainder were supplied to charitable purposes
So he did what he knows a lot about and makes a big win.
This is how our state breeds its own repeat offenders --- really great.

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Anonym

[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

26th Jun. 2020, at 09:23 pm CEST#235
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wettibernd wrote on 26.06.2020 at 09:05: Should perhaps still mention that he had after the release so immediately 70000€ Debt, since his private assets were confiscated by the prosecution. With it process costs were covered and the remainder charitable purposes were supplied
So he did what he knows a lot about and makes a big win.
This is how our state breeds its own repeat offenders --- really great.

Such a thing is shit. Not every unemployed person goes to work in the black. And I hope that not every prisoner will reoffend after his release. He got his sentence. He served his sentence and now he has to live with the consequences. I think it would be good if he would use this second chance and earn honest money

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Pima007
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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

27th Jun. 2020, at 08:18 am CEST#236
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Herould wrote on 20.01.2020 at 22:35: I hope it does not work, because then it's over with bank transfer to the online casino.No bank will process more deposits to the online casino.And every gambler gets current account terminations,no bank can be made liable for gamblers;and thus the era of online gaming is over very quickly.

There are but Skrill, Neteller, MuchBetter etc.. Since the bank gets nothing. Bookings to the providers are not prohibited.

Simply current account for such things do not use.

For larger wins you can withdraw the money with the Skrill MasterCard Then also did not have to transfer to your account.

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Faro1980
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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

28th Jun. 2020, at 11:04 pm CEST#237
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Hello all,
while reading this, I keep asking myself whether anyone has ever called the bank and tried to have the money reversed? If in the meantime even Visa has pulled out? I have read in other posts that some banks have even booked back the payments. Was with my bank also so far once the case, how do the banks proceed, not all payments were canceled.

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Born4Nothing
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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

5th Jul. 2020, at 11:11 am CEST#238
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@ll

In principle, I support the freedom to provide services in the EU, but not when it collides with a prohibition law and it is not acceptable to invoke this right to justify illegal business practices and to circumvent a prohibition law. This is not what the law was made for and it would be more than paradoxical to get away with it.

To the question arising here: "Why is nothing done for years and why suddenly now? - To this question I have also not really an answer ready. Everything has begun with the judgement of the LG Ulm and then everything hit waves: PayPal withdrew and then Visa and MC. Even the federal government is now looking at my case before the OLG Stuttgart on 30.10.20220...

Now one wants to save still what is to be saved - unfortunately much too late and I feel this as hypocritical and ridiculous now to make themselves strong for it; this one would have had to do for years but what remains to them over! - The OC advertising is getting worse and worse and if already children the jingles of the OC trällern what runs properly wrong.

Even if I can not predict what will happen on 30.10 in Stuttgart so I hope but fervently that the OLG Stuttgart the facts which the LG Ulm has cited, also confirmed to 100%; even must confirm because Paypal manages the money for the OC and has that on the Paypal accounts and must be manually requested by the OC and debited and in case of need is still the BGH in Karlsruhe there^^

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RebellYell
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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

5th Jul. 2020, at 01:59 pm CEST#239
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https://www.sr.de/sr/home/nachrichten/politik_wirtschaft/saar_spd_gegen_online_casinos_100.html

The new gambling contract is far from being in the bag!

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b****a

[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

5th Jul. 2020, at 04:29 pm CEST#240
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If you read through the judgment and the accompanying explanations, you will see that the freedom of
Freedom to provide services must take a back seat to the protection of minors and gamblers.
These are higher goods to be protected, therefore the ban is lawful.

Only when there is a functioning protection of minors and gamblers, can the operators of casinos also invoke the
Casinos can also invoke the freedom to provide services. Until then, unfortunately, it is nonsense
Only exception: Germany would be reprimanded that they had enough time to build up something like this, and now
the freedom of services comes into play. But I do not think so

That's why I don't think the casinos can invoke the freedom to provide services, because they simply can't do so
because it is simply not as high quality as youth and player protection. As the
ECJ has also judged. From this, the casinos conclude nonsensically that the ban in Germany is
is unlawful.

However, as long as the gambling paragraph exists and has not been amended or deleted, the ban remains in place
Ban remains in place.

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Born4Nothing
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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

9th Jul. 2020, at 12:27 pm CEST#241
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Here is an excerpt of what MGA says about the alleged EU license:


To respond to your query we would like to inform you that a license issued by the MGA enables license holders to operate in or from Malta, or through a
Maltese legal entity. It is the licensee that is responsible for adhering to the laws of the respective targeted jurisdictions. Ultimately, the licensee must exercise
due care in selecting the markets in which it pursues its activities and the advertising thereof, and to ensure that the activity is underpinned by justifiable arguments.


Apart from this, Mr Green in Austria has been fined EUR 130,000 - the Regional Court, Higher Regional Court and Supreme Court in Vienna shared the view and awarded damages to the plaintiff and another Provider of OC.




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Born4Nothing
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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

19th Aug. 2020, at 10:18 am CEST#242
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Small update:

So far nothing came from the OLG Stuttgart. Ergo, we are heading for the date before the OLG Stuttgart on 30.10

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Born4Nothing
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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

25th Sep. 2020, at 01:37 pm CEST#243
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