Privacy settings

We use a number of cookies on our website. Some are essential, while others help us improve our portal for you.

Privacy settings

Here is an overview of all the cookies we use. You can choose to accept whole categories or view more information and select only certain cookies.

Essential (6)

Essential cookies enable basic functions and are necessary for the website to function properly.

Statistics (3)

Statistics cookies collect information anonymously. This information helps us to understand how our visitors use our website.
If the statistics cookies are subsequently deselected, they will remain on the computer until the expiry date. However, they are neither updated nor evaluated.

Online Casinos in general: [Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player (Page 22)

Topic created on 20th Jan. 2020 | Page: 22 of 27 | Answers: 262 | Views: 67,672
Born4Nothing
Rookie

[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

18th Jun. 2020, at 09:53 am CEST#214
0 Likes

Nobody has liked this post so far
@Latino



Venue at many Online Casinos is Malta and Maltese are not subject to German law.Accordingly, you do not violate any law there.The German State Treaty on Gambling does not itch the, why also ..



Wrong, every OC which is aimed at the German market; German language, HP and AGB in German language have to comply with the laws in force in the target country.



An online Dealer must also observe the laws in the respective country when he offers his goods there and can not, because it is legal in Holland to sell drugs then in Austria, refer to the Dutch laws! Would be absurd if that were not so.


"2. the defendants become with the objected Internet offer in

Germany and thus also in North Rhine-Westphalia. As can be seen from the

Use of the German language and the under a Germany flag as well as

the word "Germany" in bold print,

the defendants with their game offers turn precisely also to consumers

in Germany. In doing so, they organize and broker their Games of chance in

Germany, so that the scope of application of the Interstate Treaty on Gaming

(cf. Section 3 (4) GlüStV). It is irrelevant whether the server and
all of the defendant's facilities are located outside Germany. At

use of the Internet, the opportunity to participate in the game is not provided at the seat of the

Organizer, but at the player's place of residence or at another location

of his computer. "




And thus §284 is also applicable.






And since it also depends on the possibility of participation; as already written, §284 is also applicable.


This post has been translated automatically

RebellYell
Top Member

[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

23rd Jun. 2020, at 08:59 pm CEST#215
0 Likes

Nobody has liked this post so far
https://www.tagesschau.de/investigativ/ndr/online-casinos-hamburg-101.html

This post has been translated automatically

Stromberg
Legend

[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

24th Jun. 2020, at 08:44 am CEST#216
0 Likes

Nobody has liked this post so far
Somehow, I can only really grab my head. Nothing has been done for years and now they're starting to do it?
I'm not talking about the persecution itself, but the timing.

Makes a quick regulation of the market in my eyes less likely and I think that this would be best, also from Player protection point of view

What I would like to know is: Why can this eternal argument that the offer is covered by European law, actually not quite clearly evaluated as wrong or right, by the competent EU authority or otherwise?odwr must necessarily go to a lawsuit to the European Court of Justice?

Before now the judgments of German courts are quoted.... I mean how it looks from the point of view of the EU...

This post has been translated automatically

Slothot
Amateur

[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

24th Jun. 2020, at 09:15 am CEST#217
1 Like

Liked this post: Avatar von Jenn-R Jenn-R
For the twelfth time and also already shown here
Everything EU legally compliant

This post has been translated automatically

Ichbins2018
Top Member

[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

24th Jun. 2020, at 05:40 pm CEST#218
0 Likes

Nobody has liked this post so far
Stromberg wrote on 24.06.2020 at 08:44: I can somehow really just grab my head. For years nothing is done and now they start with it?
It is not about the pursuit itself, but the timing.

Makes a quick regulation of the market less likely in my eyes and I think that this would be best, also from a Player protection point of view

What I would like to know is: Why can this eternal argument that the offer is covered by European law, actually not quite clearly evaluated as wrong or right, by the competent EU authority or otherwise?odwr must necessarily go to a lawsuit to the European Court of Justice?

Before now the judgments of German courts are quoted.... I mean how it looks from the point of view of the EU....

Maybe it helps you and you google times after how other countries behave in the EU concerning gambling?

Only so much...each country seems to do what it thinks is right and not every country is so stupid and can be tickled by the Maltese the eggs!

This post has been translated automatically

Ichbins2018
Top Member

[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

24th Jun. 2020, at 06:59 pm CEST#219
0 Likes

Nobody has liked this post so far
And if you are interested, for example, individual countries refer to this.

European Court of Justice
Art. 49 EC - Restrictions on the freedom to provide services.


I can't help but scratch my head. For years nothing is done and now they start with it?
It's not about the persecution itself, but the timing.

In the meantime, the OC have developed into a real boom and our policy seems to no longer want to accept that billions are transferred abroad for nothing and nothing again.
In addition, there are also the chargeback stories with which now every court "forced" in Germany auseinandersetz
Whereby the last very probably significantly contributed to -that in the not too distant future online gambling will be legalized

This post has been translated automatically

Anonym

[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

24th Jun. 2020, at 09:42 pm CEST#220
0 Likes

Nobody has liked this post so far
Hello together,

i have registered here again, because I do not get on this message of the day show at all clear

Why is something done only after so many years?
Why are only 3 casino operators charged?

One may only once enter the word online casino in Google and one is still busy next year to see that there are a lot of German-speaking casinos...

No single authority, which stands up for the justice of the oppressed gamblers, can tell me that they do not know what is going on here

This post has been translated automatically

Latino
Experienced

[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

24th Jun. 2020, at 10:25 pm CEST#221
1 Like

Liked this post: Anonym
When the casino finally give a Obulus to father state - then the whole spook has an end and all can play until they drop
As with lotto or casinos or alcohol or cigarettes ... to be continued

This post has been translated automatically

Falko
Icon

[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

24th Jun. 2020, at 10:35 pm CEST#222
0 Likes

Nobody has liked this post so far

Latino wrote on 24.06.2020 at 22:25: When the casino finally give a Obulus to father state - then the whole spook has an end and all can play until they drop
Just like lotto or casinos or alcohol or cigarettes ... to be continued

Currently casinos pay nothing to the state at least if you play slots ? With sports betting because the tax is always levied and if not then it takes over the Provider such as Tipico for example.

This post has been translated automatically

Kleinkariert
Expert

[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

25th Jun. 2020, at 01:11 am CEST#223
0 Likes

Nobody has liked this post so far
Falko wrote on 24.06.2020 at 22:35

Currently casinos pay nothing to the state at least if you play slots ? With sports betting the tax is always levied and if not then the Provider such as Tipico takes it over.

That is not quite true. A part seems warun also always pay taxes. Videoslots seems to pay them.

This post has been translated automatically

Hot Topics4th Nov. 2024 at 07:34 pm CET

Online Casinos
0
World
0
Online Casinos
0

GambleJoe Team

Profile picture of JulianJulian
Community-Manager / Complaint SpecialistProfile picture of CounterCounter
Software developerProfile picture of MatthiasMatthias
Project manager
Profile picture of DanielDaniel
Founder

Community Forum-Moderators

Members who assist the GJ team in moderating the forum.
Profile picture of AndreAndre
Profile picture of gamble1gamble1
Profile picture of Langhans_innenLanghans_innen
Profile picture of SaphiraSaphira
GambleJoe is aimed exclusively at user whose allowed to play legally with his current location in online casinos and does not violate the current law.
It is the responsibility of the user to inform himself about the current legal situation. Gambling is prohibited for children and adolescents under the age of 18.
GambleJoe is a registered trademark with the EUIPO of GJ International Ltd.
© 2012-2024 GambleJoe.com
✕

Forgotten your password?

Create a new password here

  • 1. Fill in the 3 fields carefully and click on the green button
  • 2. Check your email inbox for a message from GambleJoe
  • 3. Click on the confirmation link in the email and your new password will be active immediately