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Online Casinos in general: [Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player (Page 19)

Topic created on 20th Jan. 2020 | Page: 19 of 27 | Answers: 262 | Views: 69,119
Anonym
Okay okay guys you win!

make now also chargeback, have not lost very much and I think I'm even quite good in the plus, but the losses I want to have again.because I would have bet on red instead of black I would have won in any case. I have been cheated.

Well sign up there at this link and I can lean back and sometime the coal comes back. Great. Is also not gambled away but verbraten for the vacations.

I'm glad that now gambling in OC is no longer prohibited. So I'm no longer a criminal if I gamble at an OC that has its seat on Malta there. Phew, oh how cool. So sometimes the politicians still manage something. From now on, the aunt from the savings bank can f**k me. had often asked me what these are for strange payments of Webdollar and co. Now this is completely legal.

By the way, a roll was damaged today. but I ate it anyway, but in zukunfr that's all chargeback.

Irony end.

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Anonym

Hi,

so, it would be nice if there would be more info here in the matter once again. what has now become of it? Has anyone got good money back? I heard that again two courts have ruled against players.one appeals in the meantime to these judgments and it should be even harder to get his money back.

Please bring me up to date on the matter.

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Adrib_99
I would be interested to know if there is anyone here who has successfully recovered their money

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Ichbins2018
Top Member
Adrib_99 wrote on 04.03.2020 at 11:42 am: I would be interested to know if there is anyone here who could successfully get their money back.

What is the argument against it?

However, you could narrow your search for successful chargeback subjects a bit.
Many who also came from here (here it is just understandably not welcome) have gathered in various chargeback forums and there it goes what the Chargebacken concerns right to the point

Here it is definitely the wrong address!

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H****7
Paypal has filed a 100000 page appeal 🤣

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Ichbins2018
Top Member
Helios777 wrote on 04.03.2020 at 12:38 pm: Paypal has filed a 100000 page appeal 🤣

True -though I doubt they will get away with it.

Norway Austrians and other Europeans have done it before us - and now the whole thing gets the appearance (regardless of the others) that the German state is also fed up with the snout - and our courts will probably react accordingly

This probably has less to do with the chargebackers, possibly the stone of the stumbling block?
but rather one would like to control these huge amounts of "uncontrolled money" which you daily well-behaved abroad carries again or also secure a piece of the pie.

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Born4Nothing
Rookie
CharlyQ wrote on 03/03/2020 at 20:04

Please bring me up to date on this.


The appeal justification (69 DINA4 pages!) arrived on 27.02.2020 and it is in principle the same as also cited at the LG Ulm.

Now my lawyer is also allowed to write something... so that will drag on for a few months and until then you, like me and everyone else, must be patient^^

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Anonym

Born4Nothing wrote on 05/03/2020 at 14:45

The appeal justification (69 DINA4 pages!) arrived on 27.02.2020 and it is in principle the same as also cited at the LG Ulm.

Now my lawyer is also allowed to write something... so this will drag on for a few more months and until then you, like me and everyone else, will have to be patient^^

Hi,

thanks for the info. So I will not do that, because I'm afraid that afterwards all my accounts will be blocked by the bank and I will get a lousy SCHUFA. The banks are still very powerful. Coincidentally, I have the times at the counter mitgekriegt as a customer had terminated the business relationship. However, it must also be said that this customer was really snotty in the counter room. But it was not about Cargeback but more about that did not want to pay his bills or could. Probably insolvency or something.

So despite everything always stay nice.


I wish you good luck and please keep us up to date here. it is already very interesting this thing and exciting how it will all end.

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Muhberg
Born4Nothing wrote on 05/03/2020 at 14:45

The appeal justification (69 DINA4 pages!) arrived on 27.02.2020 and it is in principle the same as also cited at the LG Ulm.

Now my lawyer is also allowed to write something... so this will drag on for a few more months and until then you have to be patient, like me and everyone else too^^

Hi Born4Nothing

first of all thank you for sharing your experience with OC and PP with us here. About this Threat and also the judgement at the LG Ulm I became attentive on the topic here if necessary just like you legal steps to introduce. I have contacted the law firm Lenne. In the conversation with the lawyer, it was first about the action against PP, because here would be high chances of success because I come from Ulm and the judgment of the LG Ulm has spoken in the first instance for you.
In the last conversation with the lawyer, however, a second idea came up, to directly ask the OCs for reimbursement of the amounts, since it came here, at least in one case, quite quickly to a settlement with the OC and this reimbursed a very high proportion of the losses, including legal fees.
Have you ever dealt with this or discussed it with your lawyer?

Thanks and VG from Ulm

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Born4Nothing
Rookie
Sorry for the late reply but here I am only from time to time^^

Well, on 18.05.2020 the response was submitted by my lawyer regarding the appeal of PayPal at the OLG Stuttgart. Bottom line, it is nothing different than what was already presented at the LG Ulm and you argue with the freedom of services in the EU which is complete nonsense because there are supreme court ruling; from the Federal Administrative Court and this says something completely different than what PP argues.

Also, they still do not believe that I would have played from Ulm and my evidence was not verifiable for Paypal - actually everything is indisputable as the LG Ulm, right, has determined but they try to continue to "play dumb" in the hope to get through with it - only the LG Ulm has already not been lulled by it...

To your question: To go directly to an OC. I have also thought about it and I was already active (without a lawyer) but from the OC you get the same flimsy argumentation (EU freedom of services) as Paypal tries. Alone impossible but with a lawyer quite conceivable whereby I would still not be ready for a settlement!


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