[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

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Katharina2

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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

22nd Jan. 2020, at 09:10 pm CET#124

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Falko wrote on 22.01.2020 at 15:21

And what about the super rich and professional footballers who also gamble in casinos? For them 1000 euros per month limit is a mockery. If the state wants to earn on it with and this rich group that invests a lot with it completely excludes, then the tax revenue from it but will remain very low

I see that similarly. With 1000 € limit per month, they slaughter the cow, they
actually want to milk. Turnover for German casinos go back in tow
the tax revenues. Tingly. Money laundering would be under control. But well, you can't have
can't have everything.

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Born4Nothing

Forum posts: 75 Member since: 05.07.2018

[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

22nd Jan. 2020, at 09:58 pm CET#125

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CharlyQ wrote on 01/22/2020 at 7:33 pm: Hi all,

yes so I think.

Dear CharlyQ,

it does not depend on what you think. It also does not depend on what others think and it also ultimately does not depend on what I think. But I want to know what the OLG thinks whether this goings-on, despite the clear prohibition in the State Treaty on Gambling should have been observed and rightly recognized as a ban or not. For this there are the courts: I represent these views and nothing else I want to know whether this ban, all the years for the ton was or not!

The bottom line is that I think we will cut ourselves with it in the finger. Could imagine that the tables are turned and the plaintiff then an ad for fraud flutters into the house with corresponding cost note and blocking of the current account by the bank. because it was so nice comes a negative entry in the Schufa etc. to it and you get then nowhere more a loan or Dispo.

I don't care about that either. Even if I should get one on the lid then I also carry the consequences from my acting; for it I am old enough. Schufa is also indifferent to me as whether I get a loan or not! If I bring me what then I spoon it out and even if it should be shit!

Problem might also be that such a process and such a lawsuit will cost really good money.

No matter how much, it's just money and somehow I get that together.

To get the losses back now in this way I find unfair.

Just by this statement I can see that you have not read through my contributions or not understood because I have already said umpteen times that I do not care about these lumpy 10,000 EUR and I have not complained about it!

Imagine you buy a brand new car for 50,000 euros and then sue the manufacturer after a few weeks on chargeback. What economic consequences that would have.

Yes, if you are cheated; keyword: DIESEL scandal^^

But you are allowed to buy a car; there is no ban like in GlückStv

Am very curious how this thing will end up legally. Believe that there will be a rude awakening for some and do not think that the financial industry will look at the long with.

Yes I am also curious but for me there is no rude awakening: I am more than aware of the implications of my actions. For injustice/right one must fight and only the least are capable of it. Above all also hold out to the end; many do not start, stumble on the way to the end or buckle... that I do not intend!

Victory or defeat!

The only difference is financial. For me it is about 15,000 EUR for PayPal about a three-digit million amount if it should really turn out what the LG Ulm for a conclusion drew and from the image damage, which Paypal could suffer times not to mention.

David against Goliath and I hope very much that history repeats itself

btw: the "enemy" reads here^^

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Zwischenmeister

Forum posts: 521 Member since: 14.10.2018

[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

23rd Jan. 2020, at 03:11 am CET#126

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Born4Nothing wrote on 22.01.2020 at 09:21: [

Who knows my story knows that I did not sue PayPal because I wanted a lumpy 10,000 EUR again but because of arbitrariness, stubbornness and ignorance on the part of Paypal! And I do not let myself get screwed also not, from anyone!

Noooo, you do not let yourself be fooled, YOU do not! You prefer to take the p**s out of Paypal. If Paypal would not have gone you would have looked for another way to deposit...... pity that in your childhood no one has taught you to stand by your own actions and also to bear the consequences of it, instead of simply pointing the finger at someone else and give the blame, although it was clearly YOU who has made the accomplice and not the other way around...

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Mo1985

Forum posts: 160 Member since: 17.04.2019

[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

23rd Jan. 2020, at 08:03 am CET#127

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I'm curious if Born4Nothing is still laughing when he is condemned for unauthorized participation in the game of luck.

Pretty laughable this action and I am sure
sure the courts will decide to his disadvantage.

At the end, if the prospect of a defeat stands in the room, he word settle with PayPal anyway. Or Paypal shits on the 10k and they will then directly the penalty order for participation in illegal gambling.

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Born4Nothing

Forum posts: 75 Member since: 05.07.2018

[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

23rd Jan. 2020, at 08:21 am CET#128

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@intermediate master

Also to you I suggest to read my postings carefully, but even better, also to understand Even if I take up your analogy and get involved in it, although you have not thought, so we will eventually see who has to stand by his actions. I am ready for this!

@Mo1985

True, we will see

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MarcT22186

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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

23rd Jan. 2020, at 08:25 am CET#129

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Mo1985 wrote on 23.01.2020 at 08:03: Am curious whether Born4Nothing still laughs when he is condemned for unauthorized participation in the game of luck.

Pretty laughable this action and I am
sure the courts will decide to his disadvantage.

At the end, if the prospect of a defeat stands in the room, he word settle with PayPal anyway. Or Paypal shits on the 10k and they become then directly the penalty order for participation in illegal gambling

That would have happened long ago and a conviction because of it would be almost impossible
You have quasi in this matter "one attempt free"

I see it similarly, everyone should stand to what he does, but that applies equally to companies and politics. Politics has ignored it for years and let the gray area become larger and larger, while the circumstances for this were crystal clear. Companies ala PayPal, Giropay, Sofort were also aware of the situation and have used this gray area to make a lot of money - WELL KNOWING! that you also act in a gray area and it is prohibited by law on the German side. If someone now wants to tell me that they were not aware of these (possible) consequences, then you have to doubt their sanity

PayPal and Co. have also gambled and are now in danger of losing. That's the way the gambling industry works!

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Born4Nothing

Forum posts: 75 Member since: 05.07.2018

[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

23rd Jan. 2020, at 08:26 am CET#130

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@Marc

Nothing more to add to this! Thanks

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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

23rd Jan. 2020, at 08:47 am CET#131

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Let everyone do what they want. His right. If he gets his money back it's great. To a gift horse looks ma net in the mouth probably some are just jealous if he wins, because they themselves have not paid via PayPal, evtl can not afford a lawyer or simply do not have the balls for fear of losing in court

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Mo1985

Forum posts: 160 Member since: 17.04.2019

[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

23rd Jan. 2020, at 09:17 am CET#132

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Chillaqueen92 wrote on 23.01.2020 at 08:47: Let everyone do as he wants. It's his right. If he gets his money back it's great. To a gift horse looks ma net in the mouth probably some are just jealous when he wins, because they themselves have not paid via PayPal, possibly can not afford a lawyer or simply do not have the balls for fear of losing in court.

You say that until you have your own company and someone takes your service and then einfsch money back booked.

But what do you expect in a forum full of gamblers something like decency

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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player

23rd Jan. 2020, at 09:20 am CET#133

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Fortunately I have no company and that happens PayPal quite right so.

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