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Online Casinos in general: Chargeback then win? (Page 5)

Topic created on 13th Aug. 2020 | Page: 5 of 8 | Answers: 79 | Views: 16,777
RiverSong
Legend

Daniel0827 wrote on 08/23/2020 at 23:50: Someone had said here that Bayern would not win the Champions League. In this sense, a dear greeting😘🏆🏆🏆🏆

so you not only won your bet but also got paid. yeah ok, otherwise you wouldn't have posted

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Daniel0827
Rookie
Iseedeadpeople wrote on 08/24/2020 at 6:57 pm

so you not only won your bet but also got paid. yeah ok, otherwise you wouldn't have posted at all

No, the case is still under review. The Provider insists that I should book back the payments via PayPal. But PayPal says this is not possible, because they have passed the chargebacks to the provider and in my account is also clearly visible that the amount was written off internally

An alternative way to pay back the money could not offer me unfortunately until today, although I was assured the account would be reactivated after payment of the delinquent amount in any case.Unfortunately, you always get the same answers from little trained service employees.

However, I expect the outcome that they no longer open the account and simply leave the 190 € (because of which they closed the account) in the room. Or alternatively finds a way to let them pay and in between the bet win has canceled... Would not surprise me if dishonesty is answered with dishonesty😉

Oh well, one day before the Champions League final, the access settings for my account were actually changed so that I can now no longer access it at all, which was still possible until last Friday. Will not have had anything to do with the pending final😆

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Falko
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Daniel0827 wrote on 08/25/2020 at 12:34 PM
No, the case is still under review. The Provider insists that I should post back the payments via PayPal. But PayPal says this is not possible at all, because they have passed the chargebacks to the provider and in my account is also clearly visible that the amount was written off internally

An alternative way to pay back the money could not offer me unfortunately until today, although I was assured the account would be reactivated after payment of the delinquent amount in any case.Unfortunately, you always get the same answers from little trained service employees.

However, I expect the outcome that they no longer open the account and simply leave the 190 € (because of which they closed the account) in the room. Or alternatively finds a way to let them pay and in between the bet win has canceled... Would not surprise me if dishonesty is answered with dishonesty😉

Oh well, one day before the Champions League final, the access settings for my account were actually changed so that I can now no longer access it at all, which was still possible until last Friday. Will not have had anything to do with the pending final😆

Ask but times whether you can Deposit these 190 euros by CashtoCode or with Paysafekarte on your player account and then they take the sum down ?

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RiverSong
Legend
Falko wrote on 25/08/2020 at 14:45: Ask whether you can Deposit these 190 euros by CashtoCode or with Paysafekarte on your player account and then they take the sum down ?

he has written

Daniel0827 wrote on 25.08.2020 at 12:34 pm: An alternative way to pay back the money could not offer me unfortunately until today, although I was assured the account would be reactivated after payment of the delinquent amount in any case.Unfortunately, you always get the same answers from little trained service staff.

however, I also do not understand why a normal deposit as a balance is not possible

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Daniel0827
Rookie
KFalko wrote on 25.08.2020 at 14:45
Ask but times whether you can Deposit these 190 euros by CashtoCode or with Paysafekarte on your player account and then they take the sum down ?

The easiest option at the moment would be to just deduct the money from the existing money in my account (after the positive outcome of the bet it should be about 1300 €) and goodwill

However, just received an email half an hour ago that the account remains permanently closed and the decision is final. Of course, this makes it very easy for you, because you have got rid of the stubborn customer and do not have to pay out the win.

The fact that they are doing this, waiving the delinquent payment, not giving me an opportunity to make amends and basically waiving exactly what is the reason for the account closure in the first place, I think is being forgotten.

However, I will stay on the ball and continue to send Tipico (the name of the provider) my emails until the case is resolved in another way.

Completely independent of the fact that I was the trigger at the beginning and acted wrongly, the customer support is absolutely dilettantish. I was sent the same answer several times and always referred to the fact that The account can be reactivated after paying the amount. Now suddenly at the very end after two weeks of testing, detailed description of my case, phone calls with PayPal, etc., this suddenly no longer works. Why: in my opinion, because there is money in the account that you do not want to pay out

I do not know if it is worthwhile to contact the MGA, since I was the original trigger with my chargebacks
Is there anyone here with contacts to Tipico who might be able to take care of the whole thing?
For me, this is not acceptable, because it has a bit of this: I take away 100 € from you, see my mistake and want to give it back to you, but you do not take it and take away 600 € from me in return.

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G****e
Mal ne other question, what would be if Bayern in the semifinals would be eliminated. Believe from then you wanted to pay back the money or? If the bet would have been lost in the semifinals, would you also want to pay back the money? 😃

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Daniel0827
Rookie
NO Gamble wrote on 25.08.2020 at 17:55: Time ne other question, what if Bayern would have been eliminated in the semifinals. Believe from then on you wanted to pay back the money or? If the bet would have been lost in the semifinals, would you also want to pay back the money? 😃

Exactly for this point I have been absolutely criticized here it would me only about the bet go. Surely this has been a part of it I would not deny. The day of my first clarification attempt with Tipico was the 10 or 11.08. The semi-final was a week later.
if you had offered me an immediate solution, I would have paid the money, of course. I did not even know until that time that my account is deactivated at all. They never informed me about it. And suddenly I happen to come across the deactivation, the write-off of the money and the labeling as fraud
And exactly the last word was the crucial one for me. In this system with this Provider my (logically) original data is stored and I do not want to be considered a fraud in any system in the world.

I am now in the further communication rather about the fact that I have invested masses of time, I was assured of reactivation and that suddenly no longer work. I also fear that they do not even read my partly longer e-mails properly. One example: the supposedly final decision to close the account today came from a Sophie.
I wrote back and exactly this Sophie then wrote: thank you for your message, your request has been forwarded to the right place. Um, I thought that you, Sophie, are a higher decision maker and thus they would continue to handle my request🤷♂️🤷♂️🙄🙄

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G****e
Hm don't know if I as a casino operator would give someone a second chance if he has booked something back. Is not meant badly. Wish you good luck anyway that you will clarify the matter

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Daniel0827
Rookie
Gamble wrote on 25.08.2020 at 18:43 clock: Hm do not know if I would give as a casino operator someone ne second chance if he has booked something back. Is not meant badly. Wish you still good luck that you will clarify the matter

Thank you, a second chance is certainly not self-evident I see the same. Only two weeks to communicate that you will get this second chance if you pay and then claim exactly the opposite because suddenly money is on the account is somehow little serious and relatively shabby. If I had been told the same thing two weeks ago, I would have discussed it further, but then the decision would have had a basis in principle
One waited however really completely consciously for the exit of the bet around the decision to fall. So it is in the end as I said only: you embezzle more money then I just now also money when I have the opportunity to do so.

It should also be mentioned that I have played according to my account so far 1078 bills at Tipico almost always between 50 and 100 € and alone because of the extremely high total turnover the whole thing is a real farce

In retrospect, glad that the chargeback via PayPal has not worked first time, because I'm sure they would have pocketed that and would have proceeded the same way
Well, I'm waiting for the next email

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RiverSong
Legend
Daniel0827 wrote on 08/25/2020 at 18:47: In hindsight glad that the chargeback via PayPal didn't work at first because I'm sure they would have pocketed it and done the same thing

from --> pocketing <-- kann ja hier nicht die rede sein denn du schuldest es ihnen doch immer noch oder?

und das sich ein oc oder wettanbieter nicht darauf einlässt wenn einer schreibt, sinngemäss -->you posted it back then, sorry now but please deduct it from the</--> win <-- kann ja hier nicht die rede sein denn du schuldest es ihnen doch immer noch oder?

und das sich ein oc oder wettanbieter nicht darauf einlässt wenn einer schreibt, sinngemäss -->and pay me the rest.</-->

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