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Online Casinos in general: Chargeback

Topic created on 01st Jan. 2018 | Page: 1 of 2 | Answers: 15 | Views: 13,594
freakyhf

Chargeback

1st Jan. 2018, at 05:01 am CET#1
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Good morning guys and a happy new year 2018. My name is Hans Freder and I am new here in the forum. I wanted to insert you an interesting and important article from the mirror for us gamblers.


https://www.google.de/amp/s/amp.focus.de/finanzen/news/rechtlicher-ausweg-aus-den-schulden-wer-im-illegalen-onlinegluecksspiel-verliert-muss-in-vielen-faellen-nicht-zahlen_id_8160943.html

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Anonym

Chargeback

1st Jan. 2018, at 12:57 pm CET#2
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You can do this if you have paid by credit card or Paypal. (The PayPal account) but you lose after such an action

That with the transfers is nonsense. You do not pay by direct debit in the casinos and can exactly why no money back as it is described in the article

If something like this would work, I could theoretically repeat all my lost money over the years

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Matthias
Expert

Chargeback

1st Jan. 2018, at 01:11 pm CET#3
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I would also advise against messing with the banks directly, is my personal opinion.
You never know what you still plan in life, whether self-employment, home financing or what I know - money back because of Online Casinos is certainly noted somewhere and affects the scoring, believe the trust of the bank you have then literally "gambled away"

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Anonym

Chargeback

2nd Jan. 2018, at 03:24 am CET#4
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Matthias wrote on 01.01.2018 at 13:11: I would also advise against messing with the banks directly, is my personal opinion.
You never know what you still plan in life, whether self-employment, home financing or what I know - money back because of Online Casinos is certainly noted somewhere and affects the scoring, believe the trust of the bank you have then literally "gambled"

Join me here times.
Scoring does not even have to be. It is already enough if we stand as a transparent customer in a certain file with such things drinne. Of course, the individual banks would deny such a thing

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Anonym

Chargeback

2nd Jan. 2018, at 09:10 am CET#5
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Hey... hmmm I think for most gamblers would be a Schufa entry a blessing because then you can not make debts credit etc.. Although also has many disadvantages ... but you should not live on credit anyway as the whole world is doing it

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Anonym

Chargeback

2nd Jan. 2018, at 10:31 am CET#6
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"Hammerdammmer" I once paid in a casino with direct debit, I do not know exactly where that was. That was there, however, limited to about 50 -70 euros. But I had it there also times booked back and then this payment option was blocked there for me, is also logical.

There are all kinds of payment providers, one in some casino called Aqua-Pay, I had deposited with Visa and was so disappointed about my losses that I have made chargeback, had also worked.

However, it is not OK with already gambled money, because the money has not the casino, (at most a small part) but yes the loss has won another player.

I have tried Chargeback several times, but the credit card providers check this and accepta chargeback only in case of abuse, so if the card was stolen or you have not initiated this yourself.

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RiverSong
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Chargeback

2nd Jan. 2018, at 10:57 am CET#7
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Gamer777 wrote on 02.01.2018 at 10:31: "Hammerdammmer" I once paid in a casino with direct debit, I do not remember exactly where that was. However, that was there limited to about 50 -70 euros. But I had it there also times booked back and then this payment option was blocked there for micht, is also logical.

There are all kinds of payment providers, one in some casino called Aqua-Pay, I had deposited with Visa and was so disappointed about my losses that I have made chargeback, had also worked.

However, it is not OK with already gambled money, because the money has not the casino, (at most a small part) but yes the loss has won another player.

I have tried Chargeback several times, but the credit card providers check this and accepta chargeback only in case of abuse, so if the card was stolen or you have not initiated this yourself.

honest words as it sounds, but how have the consequences been with you? has anyone ever demanded something back?

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Daniel
Elite

Chargeback

2nd Jan. 2018, at 11:03 am CET#8
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Something like this can work in individual cases and certainly even work legally. The emphasis is on CAN. It can happen that it works for a while but then comes the hammer and it suddenly no longer works. And then one is accused of intent, fraud and what do I know everything. The banks usually have the upper hand and the banks are systemically important. Individual gambling addicts are not for this system. I would really advise against it. Especially if you plan to do this intentionally. Such a thing can have far-reaching consequences under civil and even criminal law

Especially if you have already committed a crime because of your Gambling addiction and have been convicted, I STRONGLY advise against it. The penalties in Germany are not as lax as many think. And the fact that one is less culpable does not mean that one will not be punished. In these cases you will be punished even more severely than if you are fully sane. If you repeat many criminal acts (even if it is only shoplifting / kleptomania), then you get a lesser prison sentence BUT you get preventive detention and are still in prison when the actual sentence is already served.

I have seen a documentary (on Youtube about preventive detention), where a gambling addict sits in prison for 13 years for handbag theft, although he has already served his actual sentence of 1-2 years. He sits there together with child molesters & Co. in preventive detention and waits for therapy, which he does not get for whatever reason, and waits for an expert to certify that he is no longer a danger to the public.

One should always take such things with a grain of salt. Don't get me wrong, I'm always in favor if there is a possibility to rip off banks. But one should also see the risks.

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Anonym

Chargeback

2nd Jan. 2018, at 11:05 am CET#9
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If it has arrived here so, I try Chargeback not just like that. I play for many years have amounts of really extremely high sums gambled and 95% always paid with Giropay or Sofortüberweisung, where yes the money is gone anyway.
In the few cases it was also quite unknown casinos where the credit was gone extremely quickly, wi maybe something was wrong anyway.

It's been a long time, it was probably some Gibraltar casino, not a properly MGA verified where I once got back so about 600 - 700 euros with chargeback, then never heard anything again.

The credit card providers, just known as Barclaycard or so can not be fooled. The check that already, which is also good.

They say you should agree with the casino if something is not in order.

Because if I make the payment myself and enter my pin or TAN and confirm the payment it is my own fault.

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Daniel
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Chargeback

2nd Jan. 2018, at 11:16 am CET#10
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Gamer777 wrote on 02.01.2018 at 11:05: It's been a long time, it was probably some Gibraltar casino, not a proper MGA verified where I once got back so about 600 - 700 euros with chargeback, then never heard anything again.

However, I have had much better experiences with Gibraltar than with Malta and I consider this supervisory authority to be much better and faster than the Maltese one. Basically I think Malta is the worst supervisory authority in Europe, after Germany. Germany or Schleswig-Holstein is even worse.

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