Online Casinos in general: Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB) (Page 94)

KappaKeepo wrote on 06/02/2025 14:09:
One more question for you,

Suppose they claim back wins from the period 01.01.2022-01.05.2022 and you pay them.
Can they still arrive after that and, for example, demand back wins from the period 02.05.2022-31.07.2022?
In other words, every cent that you have ever won? Or are they satisfied with a repayment

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mtorero wrote on 06/02/2025 21:09:
Theoretically, you could collect every single win. It's not fair of course, and so far it seems only the munich+umland prosecutors are pulling this stunt. Unfortunately I am one of the few affected so far, but I have hope that I can defend myself and 'only' have to pay the lawyer's fees.


If not, and more public prosecutors in Germany jump on the confiscation bandwagon, there would be a lot of money to be made considering that there must be hundreds of thousands of players who have received payouts from Malta licensed providers.
The bad thing is that you would never know how often and when they can get it. There must be many players like me who have received hundreds or thousands of payouts over the years.

You can only really hope that the justice system comes to its senses and understands that every player has deposited more than they have paid out and that it is absolutely disproportionate.

In Vaterstetten, near Munich, the same procedure was recently used to try to steal over 100,000 euros from a person who had won it from a Maltese lottery provider. The judge there ruled clearly in favor of the player and stopped the withdrawal of the money. That gives me some courage, but another judge may decide differently...let's see.

bruffl wrote on 07.02.2025 at 10:54 am: I'm also with the direct bank with the lion.
There weren't many withdrawals I made to the bank account.
I have two other completely clean accounts.
Theoretically, if I cancel my account now, my account will be closed.
Maybe an employee will take another close look at the account,
but probably not. After the closure, no employee would probably
would come up with the idea of looking at the account again, right?

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bruffl wrote on 07.02.2025 at 10:54 am: I am also with the direct bank with the lion.
There weren't many withdrawals I made to the bank account.
I have two other completely clean accounts.
Theoretically, if I cancel my account now, my account will be closed.
Maybe an employee will take another close look at the account,
but probably not. After the closure, no employee would probably
would come up with the idea of looking at the account again, right?

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Anonymous wrote on February 07, 2025 at 11:33 am:

Hey bruffl

I was also at the orange bench with the lion. Had the same thought as you. I canceled the account myself to close it. Last payout came into the account in summer 2023. Approx. 2,000 euros... before that only once via Skrill around 4K
I then canceled my account there at the end of 2023 in the hope that nothing more would come.
To be honest, I always have a bit of a stomach ache when I empty the letterbox.

I don't play casino games at all, I've only ever been involved in sports betting. So it's all the more stupid that I was on unlicensed sites.

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mtorero wrote on 06/02/2025 21:09:
Theoretically, you could collect every single win. It's not fair of course, and so far it seems only the munich+umland prosecutors are pulling this stunt. Unfortunately I am one of the few affected so far, but I have hope that I can defend myself and 'only' have to pay the lawyer's fees.


If not, and more public prosecutors in Germany jump on the confiscation bandwagon, there would be a lot of money to be made considering that there must be hundreds of thousands of players who have received payouts from Malta licensed providers.
The bad thing is that you would never know how often and when they can get it. There must be many players like me who have received hundreds or thousands of payouts over the years.

You can only really hope that the justice system comes to its senses and understands that every player has deposited more than they have paid out and that it is absolutely disproportionate.

In Vaterstetten, near Munich, the same procedure was recently used to try to steal over 100,000 euros from a person who had won it from a Maltese lottery provider. The judge there ruled clearly in favor of the player and stopped the withdrawal of the money. That gives me some courage, but another judge may decide differently...let's see.

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Crystal-94 wrote on 07.02.2025 at 19:51: Good evening everyone,

i have been playing in casinos since 2021 until 2024. Never really noticed the new regulations. My account hasn't been terminated yet either. I am with TARGOBANK. Is there anything I can do to prevent potential proceedings? Does the bank only become aware when withdrawals are made to the account or also when deposits are made? (These are usually disguised by a financial service Provider and can hardly be traced).

Kind regards

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