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Online Casinos in general: Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB) (Page 89)

Topic created on 23rd Jan. 2021 | Page: 89 of 89 | Answers: 885 | Views: 210,157
Jasonknz878
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Hello everyone was recently at the lawyer, with me the public prosecutor's office has not even listed the transactions etc, currently there is a letter with attitude against condition higher 5 digit amount should be paid there, let's see lawyer will send a letter. I had the same problem that no transactions are mentioned in the transaction list, rather my bank statements are just at the back, not more absolute madness, my lawyer also found that very strange

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Hulk0707
Rookie

Jasonknz878 wrote on 24.01.2025 at 21:59: Hello together was recently at the lawyer, with me the public prosecutor's office has not even listed the transactions etc, currently there is a letter with attitude against condition higher 5 digit amount should be paid there, let's see lawyer will lose a letter. I had the same problem that no transactions are mentioned in the transaction list, rather my bank statements are just at the back, not more absolute madness, my lawyer also found that very strange


What transactions did you pay in and out with? A higher 5-digit amount sounds pretty hefty.

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Jasonknz878
Rookie
As I said, they simply attached my bank statement from half a year ago without any notes or alleged transactions that originate from illegal gambling.
Yes, the amount is high, but the fact that it's a conditional cessation shows that you haven't really dealt with this file, otherwise you could have issued a penalty order. The penalty order also says nothing about the initial situation. The public prosecutor's office also gets it sent out quickly.
I have always read in most cases that transactions have been listed etc., when the file was presented I and the lawyer were surprised that there were no transactions, we should never forget that the public prosecutor's office is in the position of proof here.
The most important thing is a top criminal defence lawyer who doesn't even have to specialize in casinos!

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btssultan
Experienced
You must respond to a letter from the public prosecutor's office, but you are not obliged to respond to a letter from the police, regardless of the subject, if you yourself are incriminated.

You do not have to appear there, nor do you have to make a statement or refuse to do so, the matter will then be handed over to the public prosecutor's office and they will then take appropriate steps or, in the best case, refrain from doing so.

There are people who go there anyway, but forget that they can be blamed because they actually only mean well. Officers are human beings and usually a record is made in the officer's memory, which may not correspond to what you originally meant.

Personally, I have never called in a lawyer, but have always done everything on my own and that's how I would do it "just talking about me" if I were to be summoned on this subject.

What I have always done, however, is to look at judgments and comparable cases and to deal meticulously with the topic, including current laws, which doesn't suit everyone, but it has saved me a lot of money on a lawyer to date. And the judgments have not turned out much differently than with a lawyer.

Of course, it also depends on the judge and what they want to know and you have to be very careful how and what you say. But I tell myself they are only human.

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Hulk0707
Rookie

Jasonknz878 wrote on 24.01.2025 at 22:41: It doesn't say anything, as I said they just attached my bank statement from half a year ago without any notes or alleged transactions that come from illegal gambling.
Yes, the amount is high, but the fact that it is a cessation against condition shows that you have not really dealt with this file, otherwise you could have issued a penalty order. The penalty order also says nothing about the initial situation. The public prosecutor's office also receives this quickly.
I have always read in most cases that transactions have been listed etc., when the file was presented I and the lawyer were surprised that there were no transactions, we should never forget that the public prosecutor's office is in the position of proof here.
The most important thing is a top criminal defense lawyer who doesn't even have to be specialized in casino!

But you must know what sums you played with? 100,1000 or 10000€?

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LikeAno
Visitor

Jasonknz878 wrote on 24.01.2025 at 21:59: Hello together was recently at the lawyer, with me the public prosecutor's office has not even listed the transactions etc, currently there is a letter with attitude against condition higher 5 digit amount should be paid there, let's see lawyer will lose a letter. Had that also one that no transactions are called the transaction list rather my account statements are simply at the back no more absolute madness, my lawyer also found that very funny

You once wrote that you paid out about €10k, can't you say exactly how much the claim is for what you are supposed to pay so that you can put it into perspective?

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