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Online Casinos in general: Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB) (Page 84)

Topic created on 23rd Jan. 2021 | Page: 84 of 95 | Answers: 946 | Views: 229,854
frapi07
Elite

Donnie wrote on 09.01.2025 at 19:55:

As an outsider and not familiar with e.g. licenses, the site also gives the impression that it is legal. At Lottoland there is even a 24-hour block button, what n nonsense, and they only have MGA licenses on the sites that currently operate them. It's downright cheeky to report players who just want to gamble a little. Typical Germany

They have recently been added to the whitelist and have therefore become legal. ADVICE 18+ | Lottoland Deutschland GmbH has received permission for the German market | AK-Kurier.de


Nevertheless, the site gave this impression before the "legalization". More so than Platincasino or other providers. Therefore, any cases involving Lottoland should be dropped.

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Hulk0707
Rookie

frapi07 wrote on 09.01.2025 21:26:

They have recently been whitelisted and thus become legal. RATGEBER 18+ | Lottoland Deutschland GmbH has received permission for the German market | AK-Kurier.de


Nevertheless, the site gave this impression before the "legalization". More so than Platincasino or other providers. Therefore, any cases involving Lottoland should be dropped.


Yes, but only this site and not Lottoland.com.

As far as I know, this is still illegal

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Hulk0707
Rookie

Traurig wrote on January 09th, 2025 at 7:16 pm:

Hi there, my lines above were meant more as a joke.

There is nothing new with me, except that I found out that a few of my family and friends were still active with Lottohelden, or still are.
Everyone was immediately speechless and thought I was taking the p**s.

It wasn't just the worker or employee who played and didn't know about the illegality of the site, but also the civil servant.

Even outsiders who didn't play there and whom I showed the Lottohelden homepage would have played there.
You can't make the site any more German than that.

Anyway, I'm waiting for my lawyer to get back to me.

Have a nice evening everyone...

And have any of the people mentioned been charged or convicted?

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Traurig
Rookie

Hulk0707 wrote on January 10th, 2025 at 7:42 pm:

And did any of the people mentioned result in charges or convictions?

No, they haven't received anything yet.

But they were all very shocked.
I'm curious to see if anything will come of it...

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btssultan
Experienced
frapi07 wrote on 09.01.2025 21:26:

They have recently been whitelisted and thus become legal. RATGEBER 18+ | Lottoland Deutschland GmbH has received permission for the German market | AK-Kurier.de


Nevertheless, the site gave this impression before the "legalization". More so than Platincasino or other providers. Therefore, any cases involving Lottoland should be dropped.


Concerns only lottoland.de and lottohelden.de not the.com domain are listed under a different operator and are still illegal.

This is how almost all licensed providers do it, simply found / acquire new subsidiaries with a German license and the money still flows to the parent company, which continues to offer illegal promotions, only it is thus an independent new company and the GGL is no longer interested.

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Smiley16
Rookie
Hello everyone, I have received a letter from the police with a summons for violation of paragraph 285 StGB. I am shocked and scared, what is the best way to react, what experience have you had. Please help me. Lg

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frapi07
Elite

btssultan wrote on 12.01.2025 at 15:09:
Concerns only lottoland.de and lottohelden.de not the.com domain are listed under a different operator and are still illegal.

This is how almost all licensed providers do it, simply found / acquire new subsidiaries with a German license and the money still flows to the parent company that continues to offer illegal promotions, only it is thus an independent new company and the GGL is no longer interested.

That is more than deceitful.

It really shouldn't stand a chance in court. It sounds really absurd that you Risk a fine because you typed .com instead of .de.

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Donnie
Elite
frapi07 wrote on January 14th, 2025 at 11:35 am:

This is beyond disingenuous.

Shouldn't really stand a chance in court. Sounds really absurd that you Risk a fine because you typed .com instead of .de.

Is there even a .de site? It always automatically jumps to .com for me. com


That should actually be the new German site, shouldn't it? And it's not online yet

lottoland-germany.com

lottohelden-deutschland.de

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LikeAno
Visitor

Smiley16 wrote on 14.01.2025 at 11:14 am: Hello everyone, I have received a letter from the police with a summons for violation of paragraph 285 StGB. I am shocked and scared, what is the best way to react, what experience have you had. Please help me. Lg

Moin, either ignore it and hope for a dismissal or spend some money directly and talk to a lawyer and ask to see the file.

Depending on your situation, do you know how much money you have paid out in the last few years? When was your bank account closed?
It also depends a little on your federal state, Bavaria is currently taking a very tough approach.

But basically, the first thing to do is of course not to make a statement and ignore it, only mail from the public prosecutor's office must not be ignored.

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Donnie
Elite
LikeAno wrote on January 14th, 2025 at 11:45 am:

Moin, either ignore and hope for an attitude or directly take a little money in hand and discuss with a lawyer and demand access to the file.

Depending on your situation, do you know how much money you have paid out in the last few years? When was your bank account closed?
It also depends a little on your federal state, Bavaria is currently taking a very tough approach.

But basically, of course, the first thing to do is not to make a statement and ignore it, only mail from the public prosecutor's office must not be ignored.

Exactly. And if you want to start a really great move, send them a few six-packs of wheat beer and a few packs of white sausages and the thing ends up in the wastepaper basket🤣

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