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I don't understand why some people are so upset anyway, it happens very often that it is discontinued. I would have zero fear of a criminal complaint or a letter from the police/public prosecutor's office. The only thing that would bother me would be losing my bank account, which I can manage without any problems
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Because you can read everywhere on the internet about high fines, possible prison sentences, etc. Then there are the statements from the lawyers themselves, who really scare those affected so that the money for "legal assistance" is made available. Ultimately, of course, you're right that the vast majority of people get off lightly, but the scaremongering in the media etc. is the reason why so many players bury their heads in the sand.
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I think what most people here are more concerned about are the different procedures involved in the proceedings. For some it's about 50,000-100,000 euros in winnings, for one here in the forum even 300,000 euros and the proceedings are discontinued without conditions and some get a penalty order with a high fine that may have only paid out 2,000 euros in winnings... or maybe even end up in court as it has already happened or in the worst case even house searches... that's more what gives people a headache, I think.
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Of course the discontinuation of the criminal proceedings is a success, but in view of the uncertain situation it is still too early for the party, probably the confiscation of the "means of the offense" would/will be the worse consequence instead of a fine of less than 90 daily rates.
We have already read here that although the proceedings have been discontinued, the confiscation should still take place...
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There are all sorts of things on the net. I also think it's stupid. It's almost exactly the same as when people google some symptoms and then think they have something bad. But back to the topic: no illegal online gamer has ever had to serve a prison sentence in Germany. And even if such a sentence were to be passed: you can appeal. But it would be a legal scandal either way.
The worst thing that can happen to you is to receive a large fine. Many players have played beyond their means anyway and if the state suddenly comes along and demands 20-30k, it can mean financial ruin for one or the other.
If a lawyer scares you, then you should change your lawyer. He represents and defends you and if he can't convince the others of your innocence, then you will come off much worse than others.
If you don't panic (which is not easy in this situation - I admit) and get a good lawyer, then you really have almost nothing to fear.
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I think this has been the case twice here in the forum in Bavaria. I hope the other federal states are a bit more reasonable in this respect...
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Congratulations!!!
That's really encouraging - it will be a similar amount for me.
May I ask how you approached the letter after the inspection of the file, i.e. directly pleaded for acquittal without any reasons?
Some "tactics" have already been discussed here (stupidity, I didn't know anything about it, I can't pay the fine anyway, they're checking whether the paragraphs will be deleted anyway,...) and so far it's really strange that some people are getting a harder time than others.
General question to everyone, how did you choose your legal advisor specializing in gambling? I found a few who listed this on the usual sites, but when I asked two of them on the phone, they said that they had never had such cases. Since I want to have someone local, the search is really difficult.
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Yes, that would only be desirable for those affected, but as of today, February 23rd is fixed and people are emphatically demanding a strong state and a "law and order" party that vigorously implements law and order... consequently, I fear a significant deterioration for those affected BEFORE and AFTER the election ... that should not be ignored....
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Instead of shooting at sparrows with cannons, there should be an intensification of the prosecution of real criminals who cause harm to this country and its citizens...
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Although we say it was "shooting at sparrows with cannons", there are certainly enough people, especially in conservative parties, who are fully in favor of cracking down as hard as possible in this area too, so there should be no illusions about that...
Apart from that, doesn't everyone decide totally selfishly what should be prosecuted and how? And who is supposed to decide JUST that? Unfortunately, you can't just pick out your favorite "raisins", but you should be aware that it is applied everywhere, and unfortunately, as this thread shows, you can quickly become a "criminal" yourself ...
There are so many minor offenses that should of course all be prosecuted with the greatest possible severity, but if you could then be affected yourself, but then rather not ... but unfortunately, unfortunately, unfortunately it will not work that way ...
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