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Online Casinos in general: Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB) (Page 65)

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Traurig
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

13th Dec. 2024, at 08:09 pm CET#644
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What I am wondering is the following, which some have already reported:

You get a summons for illegal gambling §285 with an appointment to appear at the police station.
But you didn't keep this appointment.
You either didn't go without canceling, or you canceled.
Some then waited without the help of a lawyer, others requested access to the file via their lawyer.

And have heard and read several times...
After ignoring the summons, the public prosecutor's office will at some point dismiss the case.
Or the proceedings are discontinued even though there has been no inspection of the files.

How does that work?
Isn't it the public prosecutor's office that gives the police the order to interrogate Mr. xxxxx?
Or is the police the first authority to be informed, for example, after the bank or financial services Provider has filed a complaint?

Can someone enlighten me!

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Saphira
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

13th Dec. 2024, at 08:25 pm CET#645
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Traurig wrote on 13.12.2024 at 20:09: What I am wondering is the following, which some have already reported:

You get a summons for unauthorized gambling §285 with an appointment to appear at the police station.
But you did not keep this appointment.
You either didn't go without canceling, or you canceled.
Some then waited without the help of a lawyer, others requested access to the file via their lawyer.

And have heard and read several times...
After ignoring the summons, the public prosecutor's office will at some point dismiss the case.
Or the proceedings are discontinued even though there has been no inspection of the files.

How does that work?
Isn't it the public prosecutor's office that gives the police the order to interrogate Mr. xxxxx?
Or is the police the first place where the public prosecutor's office is automatically informed, e.g. after the bank or financial service Provider has filed a complaint?

Can someone enlighten me!

Hello Traurig, criminal charges are usually filed with the police. They create a case and it is first given a police diary number. The police then either investigate a little, do some preliminary work or immediately send the case to the public prosecutor's office, where all criminal charges ultimately end up. There the whole thing is given a public prosecutor's file number. The accused is then sent a file number notification. If he has hired a lawyer, he can apply for access to the file number. However, you do not necessarily have to have a lawyer. The responsible public prosecutor or public prosecutor investigates the case and then decides according to the file.

Keep your fingers crossed that the proceedings are dropped.

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bruffl
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

13th Dec. 2024, at 08:34 pm CET#646
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Traurig wrote on 13.12.2024 at 20:09: What I am wondering is the following, which some have already reported:

You get a summons for unauthorized gambling §285 with an appointment to appear at the police station.
But you did not keep this appointment.
You either didn't go without canceling, or you canceled.
Some then waited without the help of a lawyer, others requested access to the file via their lawyer.

And have heard and read several times...
After ignoring the summons, the public prosecutor's office will at some point dismiss the case.
Or the proceedings are discontinued even though there has been no inspection of the files.

How does that work?
Isn't it the public prosecutor's office that gives the police the order to interrogate Mr. xxxxx?
Or is the police the first place where the public prosecutor's office is automatically informed, e.g. after the bank or financial service Provider has filed a complaint?

Can someone enlighten me!

The complaint is made to the police.

In contrast to misdemeanors, the police are obliged to investigate criminal offenses and forward them to the public prosecutor's office
to the public prosecutor's office.
The public prosecutor's office can then decide at its own
Decide at its own discretion whether it is in the public
Is in the public interest to investigate further.
In the case of more serious offenses, it then goes to court, which can be ruled out in your case.
I've experienced the craziest things (neither as a public prosecutor, judge or defendant...), which have even been dropped in court
has even been dropped in court.

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Traurig
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

13th Dec. 2024, at 08:37 pm CET#647
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Hello Saphira,
thank you very much for your quick reply.

When the lawyer told me not to go to the police, my wife called the police, said we would get legal assistance now and canceled the appointment there.
The policeman on the phone then told my wife that he would send the case back to the public prosecutor's office and gave her the file number there.
Asked which lawyer.

Then why did he already have a file number from the public prosecutor's office?
The police file number described in the summons was a different one.

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bruffl
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

13th Dec. 2024, at 08:37 pm CET#648
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and don't let it spoil your vacation,
the worst thing that can happen is that the proceedings are discontinued against payment of
maybe 500€.
Cheer up!

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miketrey00

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

15th Dec. 2024, at 06:02 pm CET#649
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Hi there,
i was usually just a silent reader, but now I've been caught out too. I've actually been charged with something
It started in spring, got a summons like everyone else, didn't care at first and didn't actually go. Then a few days ago the charge came from the SA. The funny thing is that my bank (Sparkasse) never gave me notice, which is why I wasn't very interested in these proceedings, because I thought it would be dropped anyway. Period was in calendar year 2022 (about 3-4 months) -> very low depositors in the 5-digit range -> a payout in the 2-digit range (???) which should be confiscated from me according to §73 (c) stgb (lol). Are they really making such a fuss about this payment or is it because of the depositors?
Well ... What is perhaps interesting to know is the fact that I was 18 at the time and was considered an adolescent, i.e. ... juvenile law would possibly apply here.
Is it still worth contacting a lawyer now? Is there any way to avert this in the form of any amount I pay? a juvenile court assistant would actually work out educational measures with me next year regarding my "possible misconduct".

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Theodor
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

15th Dec. 2024, at 06:11 pm CET#650
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miketrey00 wrote on 15.12.2024 at 18:02: Moin,
was usually just a silent reader, but now it has caught me too. I actually got an accusation in this regard
It started in spring, got a summons like everyone else, didn't care at first and actually didn't go. Then a few days ago the charge came from the SA. The funny thing is that my bank (Sparkasse) never gave me notice, which is why I wasn't very interested in these proceedings, because I thought it would be dropped anyway. Period was in calendar year 2022 (about 3-4 months) -> very low depositors in the 5-digit range -> a payout in the 2-digit range (???) which should be confiscated from me according to §73 (c) stgb (lol). Are they really making such a fuss about this payment or is it because of the depositors?
Well ... What is perhaps interesting to know is the fact that I was 18 at the time and was considered an adolescent, i.e. ... juvenile law would possibly apply here.
Is it still worth contacting a lawyer now? Is there any way to avert this in the form of any amount I pay? a juvenile court assistant would actually work out educational measures with me next year regarding my "possible misconduct".

It's starting to get really intense. Confiscation of a 2-digit sum wtf. I think you're the first person who hasn't had their account canceled. But the state needs money very urgently

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Theodor
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

15th Dec. 2024, at 06:24 pm CET#651
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miketrey00 wrote on 15.12.2024 at 18:02: Moin,
was usually just a silent reader, but now it has caught me too. I actually got an accusation in this regard
It started in spring, got a summons like everyone else, didn't care at first and actually didn't go. Then a few days ago the charge came from the SA. The funny thing is that my bank (Sparkasse) never gave me notice, which is why I wasn't very interested in these proceedings, because I thought it would be dropped anyway. Period was in calendar year 2022 (about 3-4 months) -> very low depositors in the 5-digit range -> a payout in the 2-digit range (???) which should be confiscated from me according to §73 (c) stgb (lol). Are they really making such a fuss about this payment or is it because of the depositors?
Well ... What is perhaps interesting to know is the fact that I was 18 at the time and was considered an adolescent, i.e. ... juvenile law would possibly apply here.
Is it still worth contacting a lawyer now? Is there any way to avert this in the form of any amount I pay? a juvenile court assistant would actually work out educational measures with me next year regarding my "possible misconduct".

Doesn't make sense to involve a lawyer, does it? That would be a three-figure sum that you would have to pay for this help. So it's "only" a two-figure sum that you have to pay. Which federal state do you live in?

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miketrey00

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

15th Dec. 2024, at 06:29 pm CET#652
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Theodor wrote on December 15, 2024 at 6:11 pm:

It's getting really intense. Collection of a 2 digit sum wtf. I think you're the first one who hasn't had their account canceled before. But the state needs money very urgently

As I said ... if it's really about this payout, which is in the 2-digit range, I would transfer it to the state tomorrow morning. Of course, the §73 stgb was in conjunction with §285 stgb. The bank never actually gave me notice, although the indictment stated that the bank had reported a suspicious activity report. I always played it down because I never actually received a notice of termination in this regard. It will probably have led to the charge because of the depositors, but when I read about the payout I thought it was a bad joke

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Theodor
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

15th Dec. 2024, at 06:39 pm CET#653
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miketrey00 wrote on 15.12.2024 at 18:29:

As I said ... if it really is about this payout, which is in the 2 digit range, I would transfer it to the state tomorrow morning. Of course, the §73 stgb was in conjunction with §285 stgb. The bank never actually gave me notice, although the indictment stated that the bank had reported a suspicious activity report. I always played it down because I never actually received a notice of termination in this regard. It will probably have led to the charge because of the depositors, but when I read about the payout I thought it was a bad joke

Are you from Bavaria?

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