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Online Casinos in general: Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB) (Page 60)

Topic created on 23rd Jan. 2021 | Page: 60 of 87 | Answers: 865 | Views: 202,959
Hulk0707
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

11th Dec. 2024, at 03:09 pm CET#594
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Theodor wrote on 11.12.2024 at 15:02:

Then do the math again. He played in December 21 and had his account terminated in August 23. Means it's a little less than 2 years. No idea how you come up with three years.

He won't have played for just one month but for months, will he? To then pin the accusation on one day is also a bit strange?

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Traurig
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

11th Dec. 2024, at 03:18 pm CET#595
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Hulk0707 wrote on 11.12.2024 at 15:09:

He won't have played for just one month but for months or ? To then pin the accusation on one day is also a bit strange ?

Not over many months. I know that I paid a lot at once on 01.12.2021.

Lotto Wednesday and Saturday for 5 weeks full, Keno on 1 E several lines 5 weeks full, Eurojackpott several weeks, El Gordo Christmas lottery.

If played in between, then it was only what their advent calendar gave ... e.g. door 7 today 5 rows of lotto for the price of one. Or e.g. door 21 half an El Gordo Christmas ticket for half the price.
Little things.

Maybe that was too much for the bank to pay out on 01.12.2021, then the wins that came back into the account every day for 5 weeks.

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dan3b3n
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

11th Dec. 2024, at 03:25 pm CET#596
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Theodor wrote on 11.12.2024 at 15:02:

Then do the math again. He played in December 21 and had his account terminated in August 23. Means it's a little less than 2 years. No idea how you come up with three years.

I'll be happy to help you out: 3 years from "deed" to letter

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Theodor
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

11th Dec. 2024, at 03:26 pm CET#597
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dan3b3n wrote on 11.12.2024 at 15:25:

I'll be happy to help you out: 3 J from "deed" to letter

Then we are talking past each other. I was referring to the time between the "act" and the bank's notice

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Theodor
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

11th Dec. 2024, at 03:28 pm CET#598
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Do I understand correctly that Traurig received a letter from the police on the cut-off date for the statute of limitations? Illegal gambling is time-barred after 3 years, or am I misinformed?

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Hulk0707
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

11th Dec. 2024, at 03:29 pm CET#599
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Traurig wrote on 11.12.2024 at 15:18:

Not for many months. I know that I paid a lot at once on 01.12.2021.

Lotto Wednesday and Saturday for 5 weeks full, Keno on 1 E several lines 5 weeks full, Eurojackpot several weeks, El Gordo Christmas lottery.

If played in between, then it was only what their advent calendar gave ... e.g. door 7 today 5 rows of lotto for the price of one. Or e.g. door 21 half an El Gordo Christmas ticket for half the price.
Little things.

Maybe that was too much for the bank to pay out on 01.12.2021, then the wins that came back into the account every day for 5 weeks.


And what I don't understand. Why is it not illegal gambling for smaller sums and then it is for "larger" sums. The facts are exactly the same. Exactly the same, in fact!!! And such a difference is made.

I told a friend about Lottohelden and the illegality. He said he didn't care and just kept playing. It's only small sums and the savings bank hasn't done anything about it yet either

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Traurig
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11th Dec. 2024, at 03:32 pm CET#600
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Theodor wrote on 11.12.2024 at 15:28: Do I actually see that correctly, that Traurig received mail from the police on the cut-off date of the statute of limitations? Illegal gambling expires after 3 years or am I misinformed?

As I found on the Internet, the statute of limitations always counts from the end (last day) of the calendar year.


As a layman I translate it like this:

on 01.12.2021 the accusation.
So the first year starts on 01.01.2022

I assume that they would not have been allowed to send me anything until 01.01.2025.

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Traurig
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

11th Dec. 2024, at 03:51 pm CET#601
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It's important to mention that most people now only buy their lottery tickets online and hardly ever go to the lottery store.
To be honest, I wasn't a permanent gambler either.

I WOULD NEVER HAVE TAKEN PART IN ILLEGAL GAMBLING IF I HAD KNOWN THAT !!!!


Just take a look at the Lottohelden site.
Out of 100 normal citizens who come to the site, 95 would play without a second thought.

You can't make this site any more German.

German support phone number from Hamburg
German email contact address
German Lotto and Toto
Multiple award-winning test winner
Founded in Hamburg

etc.

Who would have guessed that this site has nothing to do in Germany?

I would love to turn back time, I would never play there again.
One level further:

I WILL NEVER AGAIN spend money on something like this, which I will do from January 2022.

My laughter, my humor was taken from me last Friday. I am devastated.

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Hulk0707
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

11th Dec. 2024, at 04:06 pm CET#602
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Traurig wrote on 11.12.2024 at 15:51: It's important to mention that most people now only hand in their lottery tickets etc. on the Internet and hardly ever go to the lottery store.
To be honest, I wasn't a permanent gambler either.

I WOULD NEVER HAVE TAKEN PART IN ILLEGAL GAMBLING IF I HAD KNOWN THAT !!!!


Just take a look at the Lottohelden site.
Out of 100 normal citizens who come to the site, 95 would play without a second thought.

You can't make this site any more German.

German support phone number from Hamburg
German email contact address
German Lotto and Toto
Multiple award-winning test winner
Founded in Hamburg

etc.

Who would have guessed that this site has nothing to do in Germany?

I would love to turn back time, I would never play there again.
One level further:

I WILL NEVER AGAIN spend money on something like this, which I will do from January 2022.

My laughter, my humor was taken from me last Friday. I am devastated.

I can completely understand your feelings. I haven't filed a complaint yet and my bank hasn't canceled my account. But when I found out that they might have done something illegal with it, I couldn't eat for a week and hardly slept. I feel exactly the same as you and I'm also employed in the public sector. The whole thing p**sed me off so much. This site is more German than German AND the awesome thing is that Lottoland Germany has been on the whitelist since April and is therefore actually legal. However, this site is not yet accessible, only the illegal Lottoland site. What normal person would look and realize that the accessible Lottoland site is not the whitelisted site?

AND: the state manages to block oh-so-criminal sites. I can't order drugs or weapons on the Internet. But I can access the evil illegal Lottoland site without any problems. I just don't want to understand some of the things that go on in this country anymore

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Traurig
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

11th Dec. 2024, at 04:18 pm CET#603
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Hulk0707 wrote on 11.12.2024 at 16:06:

I can completely relate to your feelings. I haven't filed a complaint yet and my bank hasn't canceled my account. But when I found out that they might have done something illegal with it, I couldn't eat for a week and hardly slept. I feel exactly the same as you and I'm also employed in the public sector. The whole thing p**sed me off so much. This site is more German than German AND the awesome thing is that Lottoland Germany has been on the whitelist since April and is therefore actually legal. However, this site is not yet accessible, only the illegal Lottoland site. What normal person is going to look and realize that the accessible Lottoland site is not the whitelisted site?

AND: the state manages to block oh-so-criminal sites. I can't order drugs or weapons on the Internet. But I can access the evil illegal Lottoland site without any problems. I just don't want to understand some of the things that go on in this country anymore

I will be 58 years old next March.

How stupid I must be to bring such a problem into my life.
If I hadn't received the letter from the police last Friday, I wouldn't know in 10 years whether Lottohelden has a license or not in Germany.

When I buy a car from a car dealership, I don't check every engine part for registration in Germany beforehand.
I trust them.
As I wrote before, regarding Lottohelden and their internet presence, IT DOESN'T GET ANY MORE GERMAN!

§Section 285 always includes intent.
But that's not okay overall!
I have never acted with intent.
I would rather have chopped off my hands!

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