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Online Casinos in general: Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB) (Page 57)

Topic created on 23rd Jan. 2021 | Page: 57 of 87 | Answers: 865 | Views: 202,983
Theodor
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

5th Dec. 2024, at 07:44 am CET#563
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machtkeinspass wrote on 05.12.2024 01:49:

You can already see where the money comes from. The public prosecutor's office also writes that for the most part they know exactly which companies are legal to pay out at the online casino and which are not. However, the file also shows amounts where the public prosecutor's office cannot prove it with certainty, which is also communicated - but these are still listed for the time being.


In any case, the file is huge. These are countless transactions.

Punishing the player who acted without intent more severely than the real criminals who cause damage to society. Unbelievable.

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frapi07
Elite

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

5th Dec. 2024, at 07:53 am CET#564
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machtkeinspass wrote on 05.12.2024 at 01:36: I was also surprised that the file arrived so quickly.
According to the lawyer, he thinks that an answer from the court will come before Christmas.

I think house searches for casino games are a bit excessive. Most players already have nothing anyway.
Over the years, I've sometimes sold everything to finance my addiction.
In the end, I even sold my car and bought an old junk car because I thought I could win more with the money...
Absolutely stupid...

What do they want to do in the end? Garnish my salary? If they reclaim the winnings, I'll be paying them off until I retire. Which is another 25 years... In addition, I sometimes have a job and sometimes not. I move from one company to the next.

The money was won and credited to my normal current account but then gambled away again online in no time at all.

The letter has already been drawn up by the lawyer. In other words, it says that I'm already ruined anyway and was stupid enough to sign up to internet casinos and sink my money...
The tragic thing about the whole thing is that they didn't even know it wasn't legal.
If they had, they would never have done this crap.
The sites all looked legal.
They always said licensed, verified, safe, etc.

In the end, I just hope that the whole case is dropped and no fine is imposed.

I would have to pay any fine anyway. But I already have less left than the seizure-free limit.



As soon as I get an answer, I'll post it here.

If there is a fine, it will be calculated on the basis of daily rates. Usually around 30-90 daily rates, no higher. This means that you could be fined around 1-3 months' salary. If we assume €1600 net, then between €1600 and €4800. The state does not require you to pay the fine all at once, which is why financing is not necessary here. You can pay off the fine as normal in installments. Even if the monthly installment is only €50, this should not be a problem.


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MisterL
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

5th Dec. 2024, at 10:07 pm CET#565
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machtkeinspass wrote on 05.12.2024 01:49:

You can already see where the money comes from. The public prosecutor's office also writes that for the most part they know exactly which companies are legal to pay out at the online casino and which are not. However, the file also shows amounts where the public prosecutor's office cannot prove it with certainty, which is also communicated - but these are still listed for the time being.


In any case, the file is huge. There are countless transactions.

i'm sure they've already found your wallets and cryptos

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Theodor
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

6th Dec. 2024, at 03:17 pm CET#566
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Are the banks actually obliged to report the account holder if they discover illegal gambling or is there also experience here that no report was made to the authorities after an account was terminated?

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TWiSTeD
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

6th Dec. 2024, at 06:42 pm CET#567
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Theodor wrote on 06.12.2024 at 15:17: Are the banks actually obliged to report the account holder if they discover illegal gambling or is there also experience here that no report was made to the authorities after an account was terminated?

Yes, you are.

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machtkeinspass
Visitor

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

10th Dec. 2024, at 06:15 pm CET#568
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MisterL wrote on 05.12.2024 at 22:07:

they have probably already found your wallets and cryptos

Don't know how it works with these wallets and cryptos. For me, a Klarna transfer was already a miracle 😂 I'm not technically familiar with it.

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Sunny1926

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

10th Dec. 2024, at 06:25 pm CET#569
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Hello everyone, I'll give you an update. I received a letter from the police at the beginning of October. A week later, I handed the whole thing over to a lawyer. He applied for access to the files, but it didn't get that far, as the proceedings were dropped after 6 weeks without any conditions. Before you ask, unfortunately I don't know what sums are involved. I gambled every day and gambled a lot each month. I'll keep my fingers crossed for a good outcome for everyone else

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Hulk0707
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

10th Dec. 2024, at 06:41 pm CET#570
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Sunny1926 wrote on 10.12.2024 at 18:25: Hello everyone, I'll give you an update. Mail from the police came at the beginning of October. A week later I handed the whole thing over to a lawyer. He requested access to the files, but it didn't get that far, as the proceedings were discontinued after 6 weeks without any conditions. Before you ask, unfortunately I don't know what sums are involved. I gambled every day and gambled a lot each month. I'll keep my fingers crossed for a good outcome for everyone else

What period was the charge for? So when did you allegedly gamble illegally?

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UknownUser

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

10th Dec. 2024, at 07:18 pm CET#571
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Hello, I am also affected. The file inspection at the SA was there within 2 weeks.
Now my lawyer recommends that we prepare a plea - defense on plea.
I'm pretty clueless, I can barely write my own name, so I have no idea what the right approach is here.
The plea is supposed to cost over 1000 euros. If the case is dropped, it would cost another 500 euros.

I haven't read anything about a plea so far.

LG

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Hulk0707
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

10th Dec. 2024, at 07:34 pm CET#572
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UknownUser wrote on 10.12.2024 at 19:18: Hello, I am also affected. The file inspection at the SA was there within 2 weeks.
Now my lawyer recommends that we should make a plea - defense on plea.
I'm pretty clueless, I can barely write my own name, so I have no idea what the right approach is here.
The plea is supposed to cost over 1000 euros. If the case is dropped, it would cost another 500 euros.

I haven't read anything about a plea so far.

LG

What sums were you talking about? Would be really cool if you get more information when you write something

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