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Online Casinos in general: Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB) (Page 51)

Topic created on 23rd Jan. 2021 | Page: 51 of 88 | Answers: 879 | Views: 208,802
Theodor
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Jasonknz878 wrote on 14.11.2024 at 17:38: Hello everyone, I have received a letter from the public prosecutor's office with a requirement to pay a higher 4-digit sum and the proceedings will be discontinued. Do you think the penalty can still be negotiated down or, in the best case, discontinued? There is no penalty order!

What amount of winnings are you talking about? Agree with Butterbrezel, consult a lawyer and get advice.

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Jasonknz878
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Theodor wrote on 14.11.2024 at 21:28:

What amount of profit are you talking about? Agree with Butterbrezel, consult a lawyer and get advice.

I can't even say that because I didn't go to the police summons and received the letter from the public prosecutor's office the last few days, but it only states the penalty that the proceedings will then be discontinued without further evidence or other sums mentioned

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LikeAno
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Surely you can say roughly what your payouts are likely to be, right?

So did you pay out around 10k or 50k or even more? Then the four-digit penalty payment is easier to classify.

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Jasonknz878
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LikeAno wrote on 14.11.2024 at 23:46: You can probably say roughly what your payouts are likely to be, can't you?

So did you pay out about 10k or 50k or even more? Then you can already classify the four-digit penalty payment.

Around 10

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Theodor
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Jasonknz878 wrote on 15/11/2024 00:21:

Like 10

Okay, so it's basically confiscation of the win then. Too bad.

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Jasonknz878
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Theodor wrote on November 15, 2024 at 10:18 am:

Okay, so it's basically confiscation of the win then. Too bad.

It's just a cessation against condition, a good basis to take action against it, file is requested depending on how the evidence is. But since no penalty order has been issued, it's a good sign.

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pirat107
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Jasonknz878 wrote on 11/15/2024 11:26 AM:

It's just a cessation against condition, a good basis to take action against it, file is requested depending on how the evidence is. But since no penalty order has been issued, it's a good sign.

I would make it dependent on how the deposits and withdrawals were made. Do you see a casino name or the name of the casino group or something similar on the account statements? In other words, did the transactions between your bank account and the casino take place directly? Or did they go through any third-party providers such as Mifinity etc.? If it was done directly via the casino, I would recommend accepting the suspension against payment. Otherwise, they will certainly issue you with the penalty order... then you will be fined xx daily rates + the confiscation of compensation (sum of all payouts in the period). As soon as the penalty order has been issued, it will be rather difficult to demand that the sentence be suspended again. I assume that you will either have to pay the penalty of the penalty order or go to court.

I recommend that you take the trouble to work out all the incoming and outgoing payments in the period and realize how much money is involved. You need to be prepared for that. If you think it's 10k, I assume it's more. I would never have imagined the sums involved, but it's frightening when you realize it. Realize this and prepare yourself for it. This will win you time until you get the file.

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fros7byte
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Jasonknz878 wrote on 11/15/2024 11:26 AM:

It's just a cessation against condition, a good basis to take action against it, file is requested depending on how the evidence is. But since no penalty order has been issued, it's a good sign.

what time period are you talking about, when did you play or when did you commit the offense?

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Senad_V
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Is there any news about the case now?

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Jasonknz878
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About 6 months from the police, no sums or otherwise written out, from the prosecutor's office came no communication about how high the deposits and withdrawals are, we have requested the file, I'm curious what it says, then we look further, one thing for all it is extremely crucial how good your defense lawyer is! He doesn't have to specialize in casinos, he has to know the law!

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