Online Casinos in general: Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB) (Page 46)

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machtkeinspass wrote on 28.10.2024 at 23:03: It has now caught me too...

Money laundering / participation in illegal gambling

Found this group here where I first thought the letter from the police was a fake...

The criminal lawyer has now requested the file:

In the best case scenario, the case will be dropped, but he doesn't believe it... There's too much kicking around at the moment...
The second best case scenario is that the case is dropped in return for a fine, he reckons €3-4,000 to keep them quiet...
Third option is to stay under 90 daily rates so that it is not a previous conviction.
Fourth possibility is just over 90 daily rates and is then a criminal offense...

You won't go to prison for this, but it can happen with repeat offenders.

On average, they dig around in the accounts you have or had for 2 years after a suspicious activity report. (Incidentally, this suspicious activity report is filed by the bank, but can also be initiated by a private individual... Along the lines of: he's stocking shelves... He can't afford any AMG...

The lawyer often has cases like this on his desk. He said to me: if you had been too big a winner, they would have already searched your house, as they did with his other clients, and confiscated valuables that were "suspected" of having been bought with win money, such as watches, cash, special electronics and even cars, until the matter was clarified.

They seem to be cracking down on this...

The fact that the casinos disguise themselves in German, pretend to use legal licenses for Germans, that Germans are allowed to register there and that TV advertising is running. Doesn't matter for the crime. Instagram, Facebook marketing is also irrelevant... You have received the terms and conditions... That's it. Stupidity does not protect against punishment...

You should have informed yourself and the casino terms and conditions state that every player is responsible for checking the legality in their country of residence.

The public prosecutors want to see money at the moment... They win almost every case...

Without legal help, the lawyer said it would be suicide. They're just waiting to get a really big ran.

In terms of the legal situation, they can also declare all amounts ever won and paid out to be illegitimate and then you are left with, for example, the €30,000 win payout, but you gambled it away and the state still says: 30k now belongs to us...please pay.

My lawyer said: don't do it... Block yourself from casinos, go to therapy, regret what you've done and get a certificate of gambling addiction... It's best if you do something for society "help out in a retirement home" etc. So that the image of your character has a mitigating effect.

Start saving money, he advised me...


I'll keep you up to date.

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machtkeinspass wrote on 28.10.2024 at 23:03: It has now caught me too...

Money laundering / participation in illegal gambling

Found this group here where I first thought the letter from the police was a fake...

The criminal lawyer has now requested the file:

In the best case scenario, the case will be dropped, but he doesn't believe it... There's too much kicking around at the moment...
The second best case scenario is that the case is dropped in return for a fine, he reckons €3-4,000 to keep them quiet...
Third option is to stay under 90 daily rates so that it is not a previous conviction.
Fourth possibility is just over 90 daily rates and is then a criminal offense...

You won't go to prison for this, but it can happen with repeat offenders.

On average, they dig around in the accounts you have or had for 2 years after a suspicious activity report. (Incidentally, this suspicious activity report is filed by the bank, but can also be initiated by a private individual... Along the lines of: he's stocking shelves... He can't afford any AMG...

The lawyer often has cases like this on his desk. He said to me: if you had been too big a winner, they would have already searched your house, as they did with his other clients, and confiscated valuables that were "suspected" of having been bought with win money, such as watches, cash, special electronics and even cars, until the matter was clarified.

They seem to be cracking down on this...

The fact that the casinos disguise themselves in German, pretend to use legal licenses for Germans, that Germans are allowed to register there and that TV advertising is running. Doesn't matter for the crime. Instagram, Facebook marketing is also irrelevant... You have received the terms and conditions... That's it. Stupidity does not protect against punishment...

You should have informed yourself and the casino terms and conditions state that every player is responsible for checking the legality in their country of residence.

The public prosecutors want to see money at the moment... They win almost every case...

Without legal help, the lawyer said it would be suicide. They're just waiting to get a really big ran.

In terms of the legal situation, they can also declare all amounts ever won and paid out to be illegitimate and then you are left with, for example, the €30,000 win payout, but you gambled it away and the state still says: 30k now belongs to us...please pay.

My lawyer said: don't do it... Block yourself from casinos, go to therapy, regret what you've done and get a certificate of gambling addiction... It's best if you do something for society "help out in a retirement home" etc. So that the image of your character has a mitigating effect.

Start saving money, he advised me...


I'll keep you up to date.

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machtkeinspass wrote on 28.10.2024 at 23:03: It has now caught me too...

Money laundering / participation in illegal gambling

Found this group here where I first thought the letter from the police was a fake...

The criminal lawyer has now requested the file:

In the best case scenario, the case will be dropped, but he doesn't believe it... There's too much kicking around at the moment...
The second best case scenario is that the case is dropped in return for a fine, he reckons €3-4,000 to keep them quiet...
Third option is to stay under 90 daily rates so that it is not a previous conviction.
Fourth possibility is just over 90 daily rates and is then a criminal offense...

You won't go to prison for this, but it can happen with repeat offenders.

On average, they dig around in the accounts you have or had for 2 years after a suspicious activity report. (Incidentally, this suspicious activity report is filed by the bank, but can also be initiated by a private individual... Along the lines of: he's stocking shelves... He can't afford any AMG...

The lawyer often has cases like this on his desk. He said to me: if you had been too big a winner, they would have already searched your house, as they did with his other clients, and confiscated valuables that were "suspected" of having been bought with win money, such as watches, cash, special electronics and even cars, until the matter was clarified.

They seem to be cracking down on this...

The fact that the casinos disguise themselves in German, pretend to use legal licenses for Germans, that Germans are allowed to register there and that TV advertising is running. Doesn't matter for the crime. Instagram, Facebook marketing is also irrelevant... You have received the terms and conditions... That's it. Stupidity does not protect against punishment...

You should have informed yourself and the casino terms and conditions state that every player is responsible for checking the legality in their country of residence.

The public prosecutors want to see money at the moment... They win almost every case...

Without legal help, the lawyer said it would be suicide. They're just waiting to get a really big ran.

In terms of the legal situation, they can also declare all amounts ever won and paid out to be illegitimate and then you are left with, for example, the €30,000 win payout, but you gambled it away and the state still says: 30k now belongs to us...please pay.

My lawyer said: don't do it... Block yourself from casinos, go to therapy, regret what you've done and get a certificate of gambling addiction... It's best if you do something for society "help out in a retirement home" etc. So that the image of your character has a mitigating effect.

Start saving money, he advised me...


I'll keep you up to date.

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machtkeinspass wrote on 29.10.2024 at 11:20 am: The whole thing went purely via the normal account at the bank. The message then most likely came through them.

I could not have imagined that such a thing would not be legal.
Until recently, I had neither heard anything about a whitelist nor even suspected anything...

It has to be said about the course of the game: I was already heavily addicted to gambling. I spent my whole salary on bank transfers in one day... Then I borrowed money, gambled again, won, gambled again. Paid out, went to the normal casino, then to the next casino. Then deposited, online casino again. A horror cycle. Which also ensured that I gradually sold private things in order to be able to continue gambling.

Depending on the month, 5-digit amounts went through. I don't even know where I had registered. I unsubscribed from every newsletter and asked numerous casinos to ban me for life because of my gambling addiction. I can no longer enter a casino either.

All I've kept from these years of addiction are debts. Which of course I now have to pay off.

Due to a complete economic and private breakdown, I was already gambling-free months before the letter.

It almost cost me my marriage.


The whole thing went on for several years.


I can only advise everyone not to play. I myself am so cured that I don't even dare to fill in a lottery ticket.
In the end, there's nothing left to do but accept the punishment.

And all because of stupidity...

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Comingsoon19 wrote on 29.10.2024 at 15:39:

I have to honestly say that I dismiss your thread as bullshit. As you mentioned, YOU have lost control. Like you said all because of your stupidity. Then illegal. You managed to register at the casino. But you were apparently unable to deal with the legal issues. And now you're complaining. Go to therapy. Find a lawyer and then you'll be fine. But as I said, YOU decided to do it, not anyone else. And the law in Germany has been in place since 2021. And you can google the whitelist. I wish you all the best and that you manage to avoid the fine or repayment of your wins.


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Comingsoon19 wrote on 29.10.2024 at 15:39:

I have to honestly say that I dismiss your thread as bullshit. As you mentioned, YOU have lost control. Like you said all because of your stupidity. Then illegal. You managed to register at the casino. But you were apparently unable to deal with the legal issues. And now you're complaining. Go to therapy. Find a lawyer and then you'll be fine. But as I said, YOU decided to do it, not anyone else. And the law in Germany has been in place since 2021. And you can google the whitelist. I wish you all the best and that you manage to avoid the fine or repayment of your wins.


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