Online Casinos in general: Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB) (Page 37)

frapi07 wrote on 27.07.2024 at 10:19 am:
I'm in TV-L and this is a classic TV-L position. You have to keep a few things in mind:

1.) Requirement profile is high because you are already classified high in the pay scale. For this position you are A10. A15Ü is the highest. Just for reference, which positions are classified as A15Ü https://www.wirtschaft.bremen.de/sixcms/media.php/13/2022-12-21_Ausschreibung%20Z5_22.pdf

In any case, you can think of the table as a hierarchy. A1-4, for example, is for the "simple service". These are employees who have no training or academic degree, e.g. employees at the canteen or student assistants.

The position you have shown falls under the "Higher Service". Here you need at least a Bachelor's degree. You can read up on this here Public service pay group: Table + classification (karrierebibel.de)

The difference is that everyone with the same qualification earns the same amount. Of course you can be promoted etc., but the minimum salary for academics is currently 3.5k gross. This is not always the case in the private sector. You can bargain for your salary, but not in the ÖD.

2.) TV-L is worse than TVöD. Pay worse, union worse. In principle, you have to make minor concessions in the federal states. There is also a shortage of staff because of this, but this also affects the TVöD area. TV-L, however, significantly more.

3.) The problem with training is present everywhere, not just in the substitute positions. As already mentioned due to the lack of staff. TVöD and the private sector are simply more attractive. The pregnant/ soon to be mother will not be able to do the induction herself, but one of her colleagues will. Of course, it's not iDEAL if the person I have to temporarily replace doesn't train me. It will be a few weeks before I'm invited, then a decision has to be made internally. If you're lucky enough to be accepted, the only thing left to do is for the staff council to approve the appointment. That also takes time. Only then do you get some documents that you have to sign, some of which you have to obtain (certificate of good conduct). Back then, I received a big folder with an equally big pile of paper. I don't know how many times I signed it. Easily 6 times Then you have to swear an oath. It took me 3 months and that's a position in the "simple service". Just so you have a comparison: we advertised a position in the "higher service" (E13 or higher). We have been looking for the right candidate for 2 years. There were several interviews and "aptitude tests". Some would have been accepted, but then dropped out. Others were simply unsuitable (personally or professionally). But you can't compare that with this position, as they are looking for a replacement. We once had someone who was newly recruited. After a week, this person realized that he wasn't suited to the job. He took a week's sick leave and then handed in his notice.

I wouldn't apply for a job there. It's only for one year and who knows whether the contract will be extended. Maybe the position has already been filled internally, who knows. I also noticed this passage: "Applications from women are expressly welcome." A clear indication, if you ask me

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• own investigations and research into whether unauthorized public gambling is being offered
  
• Carrying out test games/test purchases under a legend (also camouflage identity) in accordance with Section 9 (2a) GlüStV 2021
  
• Documentation of the investigation results
  
• preparation of administrative rulings ready for signature
  
• Monitoring of administrative proceedings and coordination
  
• Examination of the initiation of fine proceedings
  

• successfully completed higher education (Bachelor, Diploma or equivalent according to §§ 1, 18 HRG) in the fields of public administration, administrative economics or comparable courses of study
  

• Digitalization skills and willingness to undergo further training accordingly


• independent working style and a high level of diligence,


• Initiative and flexibility,


• good teamwork and cooperation skills,


• above-average ability to work under pressure


• Knowledge of English is desirable


• Willingness to familiarize yourself with gambling-related IT issues

1. since when does a bachelor's degree in public administration or administrative economics qualify you to work as an undercover agent in matters of gambling? where do you get the knowledge and experience to be able to assess and evaluate the overall situation and, in this context, above all the Risk to your own person? and to be able to counteract this in case of doubt? keyword Gambling addiction?


2. what's the point anyway? whether a Provider is operating illegally or not is clear with a glance at the whitelist. with two clicks and within 2 minutes, this can be confirmed on the www. if more "evidence" is actually required for legal reasons, surely they can't send someone who has probably never come into contact with the matter before to bet and slot?

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dazzle_tea wrote on 28.07.2024 00:06:

no, that completely misses everything i meant. although the rather unexpected turn to the lesson on TV-L and TVöD is quite funny. you can see once again how different the things that occupy you are (without evaluation, one always automatically assumes that the others think/stumble about the same things or that the interlocutor needs a little tutoring in public service. the ends of the parable)

briefly on your points: i think work should generally be well paid, it doesn't matter to me who gets paid how much.

women's quota: this attempt to achieve equal rights didn't come out of nowhere and has perfectly understandable reasons. whether the way it was implemented was successful is another matter. i wouldn't want to discuss that here. with so many - sorry, but extremely harsh and extremely stupid - prejudices and statements and an exemplary stereotype service (i'm referring here to the sum of the last speeches, not just yours), it seems completely pointless and futile to me. is this really 2024?...

dazzle_tea wrote on 28.07.2024 at 00:10: back to the job posting.

these are the core tasks:

• own investigations and research into whether unauthorized public gambling is being offered


• Conducting test games/test purchases under a legend (also camouflage identity) in accordance with Section 9 (2a) GlüStV 2021


• Documentation of the investigation results


• preparation of administrative rulings ready for signature


• Monitoring of administrative proceedings and coordination


• Examination of the initiation of fine proceedings

this is the requirement profile
Prerequisite:

• successfully completed higher education (Bachelor, Diploma or equivalent according to §§ 1, 18 HRG) in the fields of public administration, administrative economics or comparable courses of study

desired skills and abilities

• Digitalization skills and willingness to undergo further training accordingly


• independent working style and a high level of diligence,


• Initiative and flexibility,


• good teamwork and cooperation skills,


• above-average ability to work under pressure


• Knowledge of English is desirable


• Willingness to familiarize yourself with gambling-related IT issues

the whole thing is limited to just over a year
(which makes the claim in the job advertisement that a "future-proof job" is being offered here completely absurd, but that's just as an aside).

so. and now come the crucial questions for me:

1. since when does a bachelor's degree in public administration or administrative economics qualify you to work as an undercover agent in matters of gambling? where do you get the knowledge and experience to be able to assess and evaluate the overall situation and, in this context, above all the Risk to your own person? and to be able to counteract this in case of doubt? keyword Gambling addiction?


2. what's the point anyway? whether a Provider is operating illegally or not is clear with a glance at the whitelist. with two clicks and within 2 minutes, this can be confirmed on the www. if more "evidence" is actually required for legal reasons, surely they can't send someone who has probably never come into contact with the matter before to bet and slot?

the job profile calls for a meticulous administrative graduate who knows what documentation is. a clerk.
what they're really doing is putting someone in the casino right away who is supposed to gamble with a false identity and then initiate fine proceedings.
in high german: a trained administrative fine collector who asks illegal casinos to pay up. this is not about fighting gambling, it's about handing out fines that flush money into the coffers. and for this purpose, someone is officially employed and paid who, in case of doubt, gives their own identity under a false identity (WTF!). and may find themselves somewhere else after a year.

everything about it stinks. it's all so wrong and dishonest and absolutely the last thing.

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Blubbo33 wrote on 27.07.2024 at 21:57: So what you two are pulling off here is really borderline!

Assumptions without evidence, of course everyone wants to get pregnant and so ... man Frapi !!!

Was probably one champagne too many for your birthday, by the way, congratulations.

And there are disabled people who insist on it and admit it openly! And enjoy the benefits!

And that "of course" Langhans also has a story about it was clear and of course as boss under him it doesn't work!

Rarely have I read such rubbish, maybe you should watch less comedy, then the truth will also work!

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frapi07 wrote on 28.07.2024 at 01:24:
To your questions: Everything is regulated. You have to have certain qualifications for certain tasks or responsibilities. Monitoring and coordinating administrative tasks, for example, is not something a student assistant can do, nor can a clerk. Of course, the position also has tasks that a clerk could do, but also others where this is not the case. It's not that people who only have an apprenticeship are too stupid for it, but that these tasks have been assigned higher up in the hierarchy. I can guarantee that even students could do this if they were trained properly. Apprentices tend not to, as they lack a certain maturity (I mean, if you think about how some people are after secondary school, then I would also be careful). Students have at least a little more maturity (usually), as they are at least a little more mature as a result of obtaining a university entrance qualification (general or subject-specific).

I can't answer your second question as I don't know how they work there. However, a lot more evidence is probably required, as everything has to be correct for it to be legally valid. It certainly can't be done in two minutes.

I can understand that you take a critical view of the task of investigating online with a false identity. But basically it's nothing new. I mean, police officers also go undercover or are in civilian clothes. In theory, it's also dishonest and wrong. Just like speed cameras. Some traps are so perfidious and they always try to lure drivers into them. Once there were fixed speed cameras, then there were mobile speed cameras and now speed cameras are also hidden in vans.

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dazzle_tea wrote on 28.07.2024 at 06:35: so first of all, all the best from me too. completely missed.

on the subject: man frapi, either we have a fundamental communication problem here or the argumentation is really a bit crazy (that you find it suspicious that women get pregnant, btw. - yes, i understood that you were concerned about the 50% - but they didn't paint a child on their belly or fake an angina. apart from that, all-male groups can also be toxic, basically you can really attribute that to any form of homogeneous or heterogeneous mixing of any kind. anyway, let's just leave it at that)

dazzle_tea wrote on 28.07.2024 at 06:38:
my questions were rhetorical in nature to illustrate the madness that is going on. this is in no way about any hierarchically regulated distribution of tasks or authority structures - it's all completely beside the point. also, whether you're a student or an unskilled worker or a sex worker or actually deep down a thwarted einstein with a serial killer gene is absolutely irrelevant.

the point is that the GGL, which wants to combat illegal gambling - and above all wants to do so in a morally impeccable manner with the justification of wanting to protect the population - is willing to
1. a temporary representative who has actually studied administration and
2. is NOT a police officer trained for such tasks and
3. possibly also never played a Slot machine in her life
to simply send her to gamble in an illegal casino without further ado. where - apart from everything else - the paternalism of licensed casinos, which is supposed to protect citizens and prevent addiction, is NOT implemented. will she get therapy after a year if the number unfortunately went wrong by mistake or how does it work (attention, rhetorical question)?
how crazy is that, please? how absurd? how absolutely double-standard-insane?

and what's the point? (rhetoric)
to create a documented basis for the collection of fines. no more and no less. this is only about parking tickets, not about actually combating anything. that would have to be enforced somewhere else (and that would be possible if you wanted to, but then the damn Gauselmann companies would have to go too, and nobody wants that)
they are making such a fool of themselves that it's unbearable and in my opinion the whole thing is so absolutely awesome that it makes me want to puke.

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dazzle_tea wrote on 28.07.2024 at 06:38:
my questions were of a rhetorical nature to illustrate the madness that is going on. this is in no way about any hierarchically regulated distribution of tasks or authority structures - that is all completely irrelevant. also whether studied or auxiliary worker or sex worker or actually deep inside prevented einstein with serial killer gene, is absolutely irrelevant.

the point is that the GGL, which wants to combat illegal gambling - and above all wants to do so in a morally impeccable manner with the justification of wanting to protect the population - is willing to
1. a temporary representative who has actually studied administration and
2. is NOT a police officer trained for such tasks and
3. possibly also never played a Slot machine in her life
to simply send her to gamble in an illegal casino without further ado. where - apart from everything else - the paternalism of licensed casinos, which is supposed to protect citizens and prevent addiction, is NOT implemented. will she get therapy after a year if the number unfortunately went wrong by mistake or how does that work (attention, rhetorical question)?
how crazy is that, please? how absurd? how absolutely double-standard-insane?

and what's the point? (rhetoric)
to create a documented basis for the collection of fines. no more and no less. this is only about parking tickets, not about actually combating anything. that would have to be enforced somewhere else (and that would be possible if you wanted to, but then the damn Gauselmann companies would have to go too, and nobody wants that)
they are making such a fool of themselves that it's unbearable and in my opinion the whole thing is so absolutely awesome that it makes me want to puke.

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