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Online Casinos in general: Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB) (Page 33)

Topic created on 23rd Jan. 2021 | Page: 33 of 70 | Answers: 698 | Views: 179,035
bruffl
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

25th Jun. 2024, at 07:49 pm CEST#323
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AngryCasino wrote on 24.06.2024 at 15:51: Heyo! I also got mail from the public prosecutor's office this week. Proceedings were discontinued

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I would be interested too.

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pirat107
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

28th Jun. 2024, at 05:46 pm CEST#324
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So folks, after my wild story that has dragged on for almost three quarters of a year, I got a call from my lawyer today. The proceedings were finally dropped due to a lack of evidence (also due to the subsequent investigations by the criminal investigation department in the form of the seizure and search of my private computer). Without any conditions or anything like that. It was totally worth it for them. My lawyer had offered the public prosecutor's office from the beginning and suggested that the proceedings be discontinued on condition, but the public prosecutor's office always refused. Now it's being dropped without any conditions or anything because there's a lack of evidence.
I'll tell you one thing... this will definitely be a lesson for me. Stay away from unlicensed casinos! It's best if you just don't do it at all, I'll never touch anything like that again. I don't ever want to have to go through that again! Simply awful, but I'm glad that the thriller has finally come to an end...

To everyone else... I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you!

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AngryCasino

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

1st Jul. 2024, at 10:25 am CEST#325
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pirat107 wrote on 24.06.2024 at 16:15:

Hey


First of all congratulations... must be a big relief.
Since you had access to the files, may I ask what amounts were involved?


Heyo! The amounts were in the 5-digit range. The file was about 60 pages long.

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pirat107
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

3rd Jul. 2024, at 06:24 am CEST#326
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AngryCasino wrote on 01.07.2024 10:25:

Heyo! there were amounts in the 5 digit range. File was about 60 pages long.

Hey, thanks for the answer. So it's similar to mine.

May I ask which paragraph you were charged under?

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AngryCasino

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

4th Jul. 2024, at 12:33 pm CEST#327
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Section 170 (2) StPO

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mehrdad_dgmax

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

22nd Jul. 2024, at 11:04 pm CEST#328
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Here is your corrected text:
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Hello everyone,
last week I received a letter from the police office. Subject: Participation in illegal gambling according to § 285 StGB.
I was originally supposed to go to the police next week, but I called today and canceled the appointment, which was recommended to me by a lawyer. I hope I haven't done anything bad.
I have an appointment with the lawyer next week. He has told me that I should initially have €250 ready for this appointment.
The letter mentions that the crime was committed in the period from 28.01.2024 to 12.03.2024. Exactly on 13.03.2024 my account was terminated by ING. During this period, I received the following deposits: €900 from "In pay", €599, €300 and €800.
Although I have made many depositors in casinos, these came from another account. In comparison, I am perhaps over €10,000 in the red.
What do you think? Should I just wait and see and wait for the letter from the public prosecutor? Or go to a lawyer and apply for access to the files?

Thank you in advance!

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gamble1
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

23rd Jul. 2024, at 01:09 am CEST#329
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mehrdad_dgmax wrote on July 22, 2024 at 11:04 pm:
Here is your corrected text:
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Hello everyone,
last week I received a letter from the police office. Subject: Participation in illegal gambling according to § 285 StGB.
I was originally supposed to go to the police next week, but I called today and canceled the appointment, which was recommended to me by a lawyer. I hope I haven't done anything bad.
I have an appointment with the lawyer next week. He has told me that I should initially have €250 ready for this appointment.
The letter mentions that the crime was committed in the period from 28.01.2024 to 12.03.2024. Exactly on 13.03.2024 my account was terminated by ING. During this period, I received the following deposits: €900 from "In pay", €599, €300 and €800.
Although I have made many depositors in casinos, these came from another account. In comparison, I am perhaps over €10,000 in the red.
What do you think? Should I just wait and see and wait for the letter from the public prosecutor? Or go to a lawyer and apply for access to the files?

Thank you in advance!

Well, in the current situation, a lawyer won't actually do any harm, but whether you want to spend €250 on it is up to you

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Krabbenburger
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

23rd Jul. 2024, at 01:18 am CEST#330
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mehrdad_dgmax wrote on July 22, 2024 at 11:04 pm:
Here is your corrected text:
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Hello everyone,
last week I received a letter from the police office. Subject: Participation in illegal gambling according to § 285 StGB.
I was originally supposed to go to the police next week, but I called today and canceled the appointment, which was recommended to me by a lawyer. I hope I haven't done anything bad.
I have an appointment with the lawyer next week. He has told me that I should initially have €250 ready for this appointment.
The letter mentions that the crime was committed in the period from 28.01.2024 to 12.03.2024. Exactly on 13.03.2024 my account was terminated by ING. During this period, I received the following deposits: €900 from "In pay", €599, €300 and €800.
Although I have made many depositors in casinos, these came from another account. In comparison, I am perhaps over €10,000 in the red.
What do you think? Should I just wait and see and wait for the letter from the public prosecutor? Or go to a lawyer and apply for access to the files?

Thank you in advance!

Hello mehrdad

Your lawyer was absolutely right to advise you to cancel the appointment with the police.
You can't win anything at such an appointment, only lose.

Were all the incoming payments from "Inpay" or just the €900?
Check your bank statements again to see if a casino company name appears in the payments from the account.
You seem to have deposited mainly via another account.
But I'm sure you also made some deposits via the ING account, right?
If the payments really only say "Inpay", the prosecution's burden of proof is very thin.

Whether you apply for access to the files is a very subjective decision.
I think there is a very good chance that the proceedings will be dropped, but I would still play it safe and request access to the files to see if the other account you used to Deposit a lot is also the subject of the investigation.

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Harald_B
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

23rd Jul. 2024, at 08:50 am CEST#331
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I did it differently, I didn't respond to the cops' "invitation" at all because I'm not obliged to.
If the public prosecutor's office had then contacted me, I would only have gone to a lawyer then. Why spend money beforehand if you're not sure whether it's even necessary?

On Saturday, I received a letter from the public prosecutor's office saying that the proceedings had been discontinued.

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mehrdad_dgmax

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

23rd Jul. 2024, at 09:29 am CEST#332
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Harald_B wrote on 23.07.2024 at 08:50: I did it differently, I didn't respond to the cops' "invitation" at all because I'm not obliged to.
If the public prosecutor's office had then contacted me, I would only then have gone to a lawyer. Why spend money beforehand if it's not certain whether it's even necessary?

On Saturday, I received a letter from the public prosecutor's office: proceedings had been discontinued.

I canceled the appointment. If I don't react any further, e.g. inspect the files etc., then I'll still get a letter from the public prosecutor's office, right?

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