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Online Casinos in general: Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB) (Page 25)

Topic created on 23rd Jan. 2021 | Page: 25 of 51 | Answers: 509 | Views: 149,613
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

8th May. 2024, at 12:16 pm CEST#241
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frapi07 wrote on 08.05.2024 at 09:53: Actually, we should play the UN reverse card and report and sue the German state because they deliberately tolerated illegal gambling for years and did not protect us citizens from it. It was only legal in Schleswig-Holstein. Other countries block the sites and in DE it was possible to register and deposit. No bank has ever stopped you.


That's actually true, I once even deliberately told the bank how I had won 20k in the online casino and they wanted to know where the money had come from, then I deposited 30k again in a week and nobody stopped me - you had to assume it was legal, so why didn't the state protect us?

If the lawsuit went through, the state would be broke

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VVMUS

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

9th May. 2024, at 10:10 pm CEST#242
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Hey guys,

I have received an indictment for money laundering from 2021 that I have paid out 14000 in an online casino within 2 years.
I was not summoned to the police but received an indictment immediately.
Has anyone had anything like this? Should I expect a severe penalty? Does anyone have experience in this please and could answer me

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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

10th May. 2024, at 12:34 am CEST#243
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VVMUS wrote on 09.05.2024 at 22:10: Hey guys,

I got an indictment for money laundering from 2021 that I paid out 14000 in an online casino within 2 years.
I was not summoned to the police but immediately received an indictment.
Has anyone had anything like this? Should I expect a severe penalty? Does anyone have any experience in this please and could answer me

If it's gambling, you won't be convicted of money laundering at all because you didn't do it, so get a lawyer

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oldschoolmeisje
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

10th May. 2024, at 12:58 am CEST#244
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VVMUS wrote on 09.05.2024 at 22:10: Hey guys,

I got an indictment for money laundering from 2021 that I paid out 14000 in an online casino within 2 years.
I was not summoned to the police but immediately received an indictment.
Has anyone had anything like this? Should I expect a severe penalty? Does anyone have any experience of this and could answer me please

Forums are all well and good, but if you have already been charged, the evidence seems to be clear based on circumstantial evidence. I definitely recommend that you ask a lawyer. Money laundering and tax evasion are punished more severely in Germany than abuse and sexual offenses.

Furthermore, it is not possible to give you a realistic answer based on the information you have provided. For example, how you made a living during this time. Then there's the question of what you did with the money. What your mental and health condition was like at the time... how old you were at the time and what your other circumstances were, whether you had a criminal record...... etc...

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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

10th May. 2024, at 01:05 am CEST#245
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Soon the courts will only be busy with people who have spent their money according to their wishes - will there be any capacity left to punish real criminals?

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VVMUS

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

10th May. 2024, at 02:06 am CEST#246
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I don't understand how the assumption of money laundering comes about. I also deposited more than I withdrew and it was only withdrawals from online casinos.
I don't understand how money laundering is a charge and apparently more people are affected by it.
I'm just really worried about the punishment if you can get arrested for online casino

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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

10th May. 2024, at 09:17 pm CEST#247
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Normally, suspected money laundering is dropped in 99% of cases. I also had a suspicion of money laundering in my file, which was then dropped by the public prosecutor's office and new proceedings were opened for illegal gambling.
In any case, I can only advise you to consult a lawyer, especially if you are dealing with an indictment.
But I can hardly imagine that this will just happen.

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VVMUS

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

11th May. 2024, at 01:50 am CEST#248
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What kind of punishment did you get? Do you think it will be worse because I got an indictment straight away? I hired a lawyer straight away but I'm still worried about the indictment.
I don't quite understand the difference between getting an indictment straight away and getting an arrest warrant.
But imprisonment would be a bit harsh for Online Casinos, wouldn't it?

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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

11th May. 2024, at 10:30 am CEST#249
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VVMUS wrote on 11.05.2024 at 01:50: What kind of punishment did you get? Do you think because I got an indictment right away it will be worse? I immediately hired a lawyer but I'm still worried about the indictment.
I don't quite understand the difference between getting an indictment straight away and getting an arrest warrant.
But imprisonment would be a bit harsh for Online Casinos, wouldn't it?

Certainly not imprisonment, an indictment usually follows a police hearing.

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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

11th May. 2024, at 02:57 pm CEST#250
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WithoutWings wrote on May 11th, 2024 at 10:30 am:

Detention for sure not, an indictment usually follows a police hearing.

Exactly and if you don't get a hearing the case seems to be clear for them at least from their point of view but usually nobody reacts to a police summons so the two don't actually give each other that much for now

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