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Online Casinos in general: Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB) (Page 23)

Topic created on 23rd Jan. 2021 | Page: 23 of 51 | Answers: 509 | Views: 150,459
Anonymus
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

26th Apr. 2024, at 12:52 pm CEST#221
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Telsos wrote on March 25th, 2024 at 5:25 pm:

Hey,

don't worry about it. I also received the summons as a defendant at the beginning of February.
I would definitely advise you to contact a lawyer. I did the same and he requested access to the file. Once the file is there, he will discuss your options with you.
In my case, it's currently still open what will happen, from a dismissal of the case to a penalty order with payment of a fine, but don't let it spoil your day, bad thoughts and/or upsets won't make it better or worse.
Instead, take it as a positive reason to stop gambling. That's what I've decided for myself.
VG

Hi Telsos,

any news from you yet? Adjustment? What did you find out?

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Ladybug1998
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

6th May. 2024, at 11:45 am CEST#222
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Hi folks,
Short update.

Received access to file and discussed with lawyer.
File is 60 pages of transactions and of course it was the Sparkasse that reported me.

The lawyer is now going to write a letter asking for the proceedings to be discontinued on the grounds of "first offender", ignorance, etc.'

I'll keep you up to date

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Langhans_innen
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

6th May. 2024, at 11:50 am CEST#223
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Ladybug1998 wrote on 06.05.2024 at 11:45 am: Moin guys,
Short update.

File inspection received and discussed with lawyer.
File amounts to 60 pages of all transactions and of course it was the savings bank that reported me.

The lawyer is now going to write a letter asking for the proceedings to be discontinued on the grounds of "first offender", ignorance, etc.'

I'll keep you up to date

60 pages of deposits and withdrawals in connection with casinos? Or what do the 60 pages consist of?

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garfield68
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

6th May. 2024, at 12:20 pm CEST#224
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i think that will probably only include all transactions to the casino and payouts. 60 pages is of course quite a lot.

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Langhans_innen
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

6th May. 2024, at 12:27 pm CEST#225
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garfield68 wrote on 06.05.2024 at 12:20: I think there will certainly only be all transactions to the casino or payouts from it. 60 pages is of course quite a lot.

which is why I asked again, somewhat incredulously I don't know how tightly meshed such a "page" is structured, but it could be a four-digit number of transactions, which I would describe as gigantic. Maybe it's only 5 per page with lots of details in the subject line or similar....but that would still be 300 in number. Heavy in any case

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Ladybug1998
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

6th May. 2024, at 03:27 pm CEST#226
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Ne it concerns all transactions not only those related to the casino.

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btssultan
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

6th May. 2024, at 05:53 pm CEST#227
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Ladybug1998 wrote on 18.04.2024 at 13:24:

Yeah exactly I'm freaking out because I'm studying law and could never Risk an entry. Can you give me the assurance that nothing will happen after the CID questionnaire? After such a letter, either a letter from the public prosecutor's office about the discontinuation of the proceedings or a penalty order. Only then will it be much more expensive and riskier to call in a lawyer. You should inform yourself well, thank you.

Going to the police or, in your case, the criminal investigation department and answering a questionnaire can have a negative impact on the proceedings. Just because you mean well doesn't mean that the state means well, this is just about gathering information about you in advance.

Same with the police, in the worst case they mean well (typical for the good citizen, friend and helper, I have to tell the truth, lenient punishment etc.) but unfortunately the officer only writes a memory log of what happened to you, with vague short notes, and the words can be twisted in your mouth.

Whether you fill out the questionnaire or not, you should not be blamed for protecting yourself, but it is your right and the public prosecutor's office will contact you one way or the other, either about the dismissal or with a summons that there will be a court hearing and that they want to hear you about the case mentioned.

And by the way, you can start and finish a law degree even with a criminal record. There are enough murderers in this world who have tried to study law while in prison - stupid example, I know, but in my opinion, this is more of a trivial offense and, if it is ever questioned in an application, can probably be explained without any problems.

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Ladybug1998
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

7th May. 2024, at 12:41 pm CEST#228
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These are wins amounting to 7,500 euros that can be seen on the account statements. Of course, more than half of this has been used for depositors.
The lawyer assumes that the case will be dropped in return for an increased fine (2k he said) or a penalty order for the amount won. If things go badly, I'll pay more than I won.
The whole thing is sad.
Let's see.

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Anonymus
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

7th May. 2024, at 01:15 pm CEST#229
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Ladybug1998 wrote on 07.05.2024 at 12:41: These are wins in the amount of 7,500 euros that can be seen on the account statements. More than half of it has of course been used for depositors.
The lawyer assumes that the case will be discontinued in exchange for an increased fine (2k he said) or a penalty order for the amount won. If things go badly, I'll pay more than I won.
The whole thing is sad.
Let's see.

If that happens, you'll be the first of hundreds of people here who have to pay such a hefty fine out of all those who have received such a letter. Some of the sums in the file were beyond good and evil. Nevertheless, in the end it was dropped or at least a very small fine was imposed. A donation to an association or something else. I have the feeling that your lawyer is trying to rip you off. First he takes 1,800 euros and now he says that it could be stopped for 2,000 euros or even 7,500 euros. What nonsense. It's not in proportion at all. And certainly not if you kept depositing before and after, right?

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Krabbenburger
Experienced

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

7th May. 2024, at 03:01 pm CEST#230
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Ladybug1998 wrote on 06.05.2024 at 11:45 am: Moin guys,
Short update.

File inspection received and discussed with lawyer.
File amounts to 60 pages of all transactions and of course it was the savings bank that reported me.

The lawyer is now going to write a letter asking for the proceedings to be discontinued on the grounds of "first offender", ignorance, etc.'

I'll keep you up to date

60 pages ? What year does it go back to?

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