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Online Casinos in general: Caution Monopoly Live! Dreamcatcher and the new Crazy time

Topic created on 31st May. 2020 | Page: 1 of 2 | Answers: 17 | Views: 8,679
buba2212
Rookie
Hello people,

i wanted to warn any future players about these three games and generally anything with the company Evolution Gaming.
Have been playing for about a year now with Monopoly Live! (less Dreamcatcher). In total I have lost 30,000 €.

Many would say "Yes to play in the casino is just risk", I share this opinion also, but not with this game.

Played for days, wow I was even one of the regular players. Playing is fun and the chat function quite funny, the hosts I now know almost all already.
And here is exactly the problem.

Many youtubers brag about these big wins and you think you can have one of the big wins too, but the chance is less than 1%.

My observations

While you Deposit, suddenly rolls
The host just rolls 1's and 2's all the time, once in a while a 5 or a 10. Your entire deposit is gone and you want to reload, have to get out of the game. And then you come in and what? Rolls of course. This happened to me so many times that it was just ridiculous.

Suddenly rolls at last bet
You have your last bet money and suddenly the rolls or something else good comes. The cool thing is yes, I asked several times in chat if it was last bet for others. And many could confirm that.

The 1 fairy
You had a good round before and suddenly a host comes and turns in 70% of the cases a 1.

You notice that the wheel is manipulated
There are several videos on Youtube where you can see exactly how the wheel is slowed down or something funny happens.

Addictive!! Caution!
I really just want to warn you about this game, it is addictive and has nothing to do with the OC where you play. I have noticed at several casinos that if you lose your money in one slot, that every now and then you get 70% of your money back in another slot. Is not always so ofc.
But with this game, once your money is gone, it's gone forever.

Big wins
In bad sessions there are some players who are rather bots or paid players. BigWinRecorder is such a player who has been confirmed as a bot by some hosts. He is there 24 hours and wins big amounts. The same goes for some players who win more than 15000.

Crazy time is supposed to come soon in July, some players have apparently already played it and said that it is worse than Monopoly. So be warned about these games and save your money for something else. I should have quit months ago, but my mental problems got me to this point and now I have to fix it somehow. I just want to help you not to make the same mistake.

Feel free to send me a PN


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Kleinkariert
Expert
The problem is that if this is true, there is always a lack of evidence and documentation. E.g. to the fairy or last bet rolls ... One could have made there pictures, it can document, etc. but it comes nothing. The only thing that is often discussed is the functioning of the wheel, there are numerous discussions about this.

The possibility that evolution can control the results of the wheel and it does not turn in a natural way is in any case in the room.

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buba2212
Rookie
Kleinkariert wrote on 31.05.2020 at 01:29: The problem is that should be true, it always lacks the evidence and documentation. E.g. to the fairy or last bet rolls ... One could have made there pictures, documented it, etc. but nothing comes. The only thing that is often discussed is the functioning of the wheel, there are numerous discussions about this.

The possibility that evolution can control the results of the wheel and it does not turn in a natural way is in any case in the room.

Yes there I give you! The day before yesterday this happened with Deposit and rolls 5x times in a row. I guess they are somehow looking at betting on the players money. Otherwise I can not explain it, because many then say in the chat "I was doing a deposit and now rolls?".

You can experience this with the fairy over and over again, it is nothing new. You just have to play on the weekend. Today I had a round at Monopoly Live, it was 2 rolls.

Two doubles came up and we were 12 scritte before jail and guess what comes out? 12 and ended up right in jail. It's all planned and the players know it. I don't understand one thing though, why is this game legal?

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Zwischenmeister
Top Member
I've played games like DC and Monopoly only a few times, mostly when I got Gratischipa for it or at bwins daily cards, chip or whatever Promodingens times a 5er for's LiveCasino came out

So I don't know how many players are active at the same time at different times of the day, but that actually only plays a minor role. No matter how many there are in the. In the end, you will always find those whose last bet was. If you had asked who was playing their first round instead, there would probably have been just as many. So this last bet thing doesn't work for me, or do you think they control it exactly so that most of the active players are down with the credit to let everyone win again? That would be almost player-friendly behavior, to avoid that they all go to zero. If you think that through to the end, it sounds to me, to say the least, as absurd as the existence of God. Just the necessary logistical effort. And how do they want to know who is betting their last pennies, when, with how much and, above all, on what?

If you play every day or even for days, it is quite clear that you repeatedly experience such situations

I see the matter differently with the wheel in general. Just an invisible, minimally larger circumference of the pins that stop the wheel, used in the right places, would ensure in a barely perceptible and very subtle way that the thing doesn't stop ALL TOO OFTEN (but still often enough to show that it works) in places that might be expensive for Evolution Gaming.

Would be in and probably wouldn't be noticed by anyone, at least not on a provable level. No idea how often the MGA looks in there and checks the rods with digital calipers. And even then, the whole thing could in fact be emitted from a wheel in the third basement of the same building and the wheel on the first floor, which the MGA gets to see is soatt of rule.

There is no mess I wouldn't trust them with, technically as well as morally. This wheel without any manipulative protection could even cause serious damage to a company of this size if things go really badly. They know that, too, and I hardly believe that they would really take this Risk, or at least not know how to reduce it significantly...

Ok, here we go. Throw the aluhut accusations at me. I can take it. I prefer it to the childish naivety that some people have here. Some as steadfast as I personally could certainly do that, should a casino be found, which makes this conviction a little more palatable to me...

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Zwischenmeister
Top Member
But all players pay in at different times. Ode4 do you think everyone gets their own wheel? Not even Evolution Gaming can make sure that 75% of the players Deposit at the same time and then they get the big wins exactly in that round. And even if they did, there would still be 25% of players who win big right then. So it wouldn't be a huge advantage for Evolution, or how do you imagine that?

Sorry, I confess to wearing an aluhut and I'm sure they all rip us off as good as they can without it being noticed. And yet it is even noticeable, only we are just not clear-thinking addicts. And exactly that and especially how exactly that shows and can be used, they know much better than we ourselves will ever suspect. But what you think there, sounds even for me like 1A paranoia.

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buba2212
Rookie
Zwischenmeister wrote on 31.05.2020 at 03:11: But all players pay in at different times. Ode4 you think everyone gets their own wheel there? Not even Evolution Gaming can make sure that 75% of the players Deposit at the same time and then they bust out the big wins exactly in that round. And even if they did, there would still be 25% of players who win big right then. So it wouldn't be a huge advantage for Evolution, or how do you imagine that?

Sorry, I confess to wearing an aluhut and I'm sure they all rip us off as good as they can without it being noticed. And yet it is even noticeable, only we are just not clear-thinking addicts. And exactly that and especially how exactly that shows and can be used, they know much better than we ourselves will ever suspect. But what you think there, sounds even for me like 1A paranoia.

As I said, it has happened several times. Players who play it daily are already familiar with it. As I said, I've been playing Monopoly Live for a year now, and it's standard, nothing to do with paranoia. Look at all the scams videos on Youtube. They know exactly how much is bet. Let's assume there were 4 rolls. Automatically, 65% of the players bet more. It is then usually very many 1 and 2. Or if the result is everything except that on what you have bet.

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Zwischenmeister
Top Member
buba2212 wrote on 05/31/2020 03:37 PM
As I said, it has happened several times. Players who play it daily already know about it. As I said, I only play Monopoly Live for a year and something like this is just standard, also has nothing to do with paranoia. Look at all the scams videos on Youtube. They know exactly how much is bet. Let's assume there were 4 rolls. Automatically, 65% of the players bet more. It is then usually very many 1 and 2. Or if the result is everything except that on what you have bet.

That is what I mean.

You say, "Result is everything except what you bet on."

Do you think everyone else then collectively, just like you, didn't bet on the field that came? Or do you think you'll get your own personal result, so to speak, and so will everyone else? That would be the only possibility. Because you can't tell me that it's worth it for Evolution, without regard to the other 99.9% of players, to look at exactly what you're betting on and then have something else come up.

The result is the same for all players. And every time you don't win because you didn't bet the 5 on that particular spin, tens of others may win anyway because they didn't miss the 5.

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GibMaFuffi
Experienced
But I am also convinced of that it is always turned to the advantage of the live show we...alone already which video is played is not a coincidence or witchcraft ^^
Will already land as mentioned above in jail before the minus make....falls to me in these Monopoly anyhow

In Lightning Roulette the lightning comes only after all have bet their money....if all would bet on the 13 the lightning will never hit the 13 I'm sure

Time have the enough...and when turning the wheel is also always a picture change or?

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Zwischenmeister
Top Member
GibMaFuffi wrote on 31.05.2020 at 05:27 clock: I'm also convinced that it is always turned to the advantage of the live show we...alone already which video is played is not a coincidence or witchcraft ^^
Will already land as mentioned above in jail before the minus make....falls to me in these Monopoly anyhow

In Lightning Roulette the lightning comes only after all have bet their money....if all would bet on the 13 the lightning will never hit the 13 I'm sure

Time have the enough...and when turning the wheel is also always a picture change or?

Had a while ago ner 5er for roulette from bwin get. Played forever, always between immediately broke and times almost 30 euros back and forth. Always the same numbers set, zack 200x on the 4, bull's eye. Sure happens something like that.

But suspiciously often I noticed that one of the numbers hit by lightning had won directly in the previous round. I don't play roulette often, but this has happened more often than average. But I don't know if it was Lightning or Quantum...

With all of you who never tire of emphasizing that there is and can be nothing at work here except pure, innocent chance, I hope that this really is pure naivete, but I often find it hard to believe in naivete to such an extent.

Even with slots, at some point you have to notice the recurring patterns and processes in game play. It is much easier to exert influence there than at live tables, where the behavior of many players has to be taken into account at once and a single result has to be leveled for countless people. At the automat you could show every single person what you want, without facing big technical challenges and without causing more than just a vague hunch or feeling in the players that lead to nothing, if only because of the statement (and also fact) that all of this still COULD always BE coincidence

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buba2212
Rookie
Zwischenmeister wrote on 05/31/2020 at 04:07 PM
This is what I mean.

You say "outcome is everything except what you bet on."

Do you think everyone else then collectively, just like you, didn't bet on the field that came? Or do you think you'll get your own personal result, so to speak, and so will everyone else? That would be the only possibility. Because you can't tell me that it's worth it for Evolution, without regard to the other 99.9% of players, to look at exactly what you're betting on and then have something else come up.

The result is the same for all players. And every time you don't win because you didn't bet the 5 on that particular spin, tens of others may win anyway because they didn't miss the 5.


No, most of the time the number where less money is bet comes up. Not so many people bet on the 1 or 2. Why do you think they come out so often or sometimes there are sessions where only these two numbers appear?

@GibMaFuffi

is also like this. Why should you win people, I already confronted one of the hosts about streamers and OC and she said there is no advantage over streamers. 5 minutes later, she started praising a Streamer playing monopoly.

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