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Online Casinos in general: Casinos where you should not play under any circumstances (loss is not a reason!) (Page 77)

Topic created on 16th Dec. 2021 | Page: 77 of 79 | Answers: 784 | Views: 246,257
Butterbrezel
Elite

Kovic wrote on 11.09.2024 at 12:12: I WARN AGAINST TALISMANIA.COM

waiting for my money since 20.08, still not accepted.

Verification is scam. demand 1000 things including funny things like a selfie where the Talismania page can be seen in the background.

They rejected ALL things on the 1st try and even though I uploaded the same thing the 2nd time they accepted it but there were always new demands, from absurd demands like normal ones like ID card.

However, it has not been going on for a week because they FIRST wanted a PDF FILE of my token transactions.

However, there is no pdf file to download from Jeton wallet, so I uploaded screenshots.

Rejected because they need the original pdf file from jeton, then Live Chat from jeton asked for pdf file, no not possible...
then sent the livechat screenshot to talismania, then they said ok then upload screenshot again.

The problem is that they reject the screenshot and say pdf file, then I convert the screenshot to pdf and upload, then they say no pdf file, please screenshots, the game has been going on for a week, this is scam, live chat does not help, always says only in financial matters please by email, email is not answered.

I have already played at over 100 casinos but this has never happened, what a shame. I will not get any money, askgamblers did not answer either and on askgamblers 10000 people have the same problem as me.

In the end, it's my own fault for playing there, but oh well.

You always learn something new. On the site itself you can find NO license at all, via Google a license in the Philippines.


You really shouldn't play there, yes.

How much EUR did they scam you for?

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Paddington
Expert

Butterbrezel wrote on September 11th, 2024 at 7:46 pm:

You always learn something new. On the site itself you will find NO license at all, via Google a license in the Philippines.


You really shouldn't play there, yes.

How much EUR did they scam you for?

He got his money, so did I. We both waited forever (which is normal for the group).

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threeeyedcraven
Visitor
I registered specifically because of this question, as I have already played and tested countless casinos. As I mainly play slots, my experience is limited to that.

In general, the most important factors for me:
1. Origin of the license, type of licenses
2. Level of RTP (Return to Player, money that goes back to the player in a long average. I have often seen differences of 91 to 98%)
3. Payout types and restrictions

I don't want to generalize, as there are certainly enough honest actory here, the casinos often lure with the best RTPs and slot selection, BUT it is unfortunately the case that nowhere else is it so easy to get a casino license. Sometimes for as little as $5,000, even for people with a criminal record. And even if a casino is honest, there can always be a change of ownership and the opposite is the case. Curacao unfortunately seems to be interested almost exclusively in money and little in Player protection, which is why casinos with their license are estimated to be at least 25 times more common than more reputable ones.

Unfortunately, I had to learn this the hard way myself. At quickwin.com, a test winner on many alleged "review sites" (which are probably nothing more than advertising or money-making with Affiliate links), I won EUR 5,000 the first time I played at a new casino. These were then on hold for days and weeks. I really wanted to get verified, but neither the support chat worked nor was I answered by email. All questions about why I couldn't start Verification (the settings always said it wasn't necessary in the meantime) and what happened to my money were ignored.

Instead of doing the intelligent thing and turning to a gambler's help site, I started to gamble away the money I had "won" after 3 weeks of waiting for nothing. They will certainly not see me again and I would like to warn everyone to stay away from quickwon and otherwise prefer casinos with an MGA license (Malta, EU) and voluntary membership of eCobra (strict player protection)

2. with these guidelines, it's not that easy to find good RTPs. By far the best casino in this respect (MGA, eCobra + the only MGA casino found so far with the highest RTP in 99% of slots) is 31bet. Every Pragmatic Play game has an RTP of 96.5%+, while the comparable bwin offers the middle ground of 95.5%+ and the other providers so far, just like the rather greedy big ones (WilliamHill, Mr Green etc) only offer the lowest possible value of 94.5%

Regarding 3, my big problem with 31bet is that they only have one payout slot. I recently withdrew 400 euros on Thursday and within a short time it was in Status Processing and could no longer be canceled. Then I win 700, but unfortunately the payout slot was blocked until Tuesday. During this time I unfortunately gambled again and with such a sum (which can melt away when gambling anyway, like nowhere else) unfortunately also took higher risks/stakes. When the payout slot was free again, I still had 40 euros left.

bwin is a good middle ground here, RTP mediocrity, but at least more payout slots. You can cancel it, but strangely enough I don't touch the money as soon as it's in payout. Unless of course it's stuck for weeks like with the quickwin rip-offs.

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threeeyedcraven
Visitor
P.S.: I find it strange and a shame that a high-class casino like bwin and a top casino like 31bet.com are not even included in your list. I have never won so much anywhere, but unfortunately never lost as much as here due to the limited payout issues mentioned above. Subconsciously, it probably doesn't feel like money to me yet as long as it's in my account. Today I got Madame Destiny 2 Scatters again (always with booster, 250 at 1 euro, 80 at 1.60 and a whole ten at 1.40 (10x spins with 8x, 12 spins with 20x Multiplier - there was a lot of hope, in the end aer nr 1/3 vie from the much weaker 1 Eur scatter). But without a hit, even the best multiplier doesn't help. Over 250 euros, wanted to cash out at 300 euros, still had my 40 euro (great) transfer from Thursday in it and instead of waiting over We min.to try my luck again.

Funnily enough, I've had relatively big wins the first time I play at every reputable casino so far (exactly the same when I try many slots for the first time, good example 99 euros for the second spin downsized to EUR 0.50) by Wildies from Pragamtic, which turned into EUR 850 in the scatter. 31bet was already a lonely record with its high RTPs: EUR 3.500,-- Again, unfortunately, only a 1.000 deposited and the other 2.500 went away little by little, until the slot became free again I still had a 50 to pay out.

For people who don't mind the single slot and can call a little more self-control their own. After dozens of tests and trials, this is the fairest and most generous casino for players and I would only play at this casino if it weren't for this huge sticking point. Unfortunately, because of this stupid withdrawal restriction, I have always ended up losing much more than I had planned
nevertheless, the Provider Kalamba alone usually has an 8-10% better chance of success. Not to mention Realx, Microgaming, Fugazo, Pramatic etc.


But actually, it's more inacceptable casinos that are in demand here. I can therefore also recommend avoiding casinos from the N1 Casino Group (Casinorex, BingoBonga). Although they have an MGA license, they have repeatedly requested new redundant documents, even though they are verified.

The N1 Group includes BingoBonga and Casinorex, among others. Both Malta, so security is not really an issue. But apart from the fact that the RTPs have been reduced to the minimum for every provider that offers a range (fair providers such as Thundekick excluded). The real reason why C1 - despite the MGA - is not accredited is the fact that their casinos are not only offering the unnecessary

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threeeyedcraven
Visitor
threeeyedcraven wrote on 22.09.2024 at 10:45 am: P.S.: I find it strange and a pity that a high-class casino like bwin and a top casino like 31bet.com is not even included in your list. have never won so much anywhere, but unfortunately never lost as much as here due to the limited payout issues mentioned above. Subconsciously, it probably doesn't feel like money to me yet as long as it's in my account. Today I got Madame Destiny 2 Scatters again (always with booster, 250 at 1 euro, 80 at 1.60 and a whole ten at 1.40 (10x spins with 8x, 12 spins with 20x Multiplier - there was a lot of hope, in the end aer nr 1/3 vie from the much weaker 1 Eur scatter). But without a hit, even the best multiplier doesn't help. Over 250 euros, wanted to cash out at 300 euros, still had my 40 euro (great) transfer from Thursday in it and instead of waiting over We min.to try my luck again.

Funnily enough, I've had relatively big wins the first time I play at every reputable casino so far (exactly the same when I try many slots for the first time, good example 99 euros for the second spin downsized to EUR 0.50) by Wildies from Pragamtic, which turned into EUR 850 in the scatter. 31bet was already a lonely record with its high RTPs: EUR 3.500,-- Again, unfortunately, only a 1.000 deposited and the other 2.500 went away little by little, until the slot became free again I still had a 50 to pay out.

For people who don't mind the single slot and can call a little more self-control their own. After dozens of tests and trials, this is the fairest and most generous casino for players and I would only play at this casino if it weren't for this huge sticking point. Unfortunately, because of this stupid withdrawal restriction, I have always ended up losing much more than I had planned
nevertheless, the Provider Kalamba alone usually has an 8-10% better chance of success. Not to mention Realx, Microgaming, Fugazo, Pramatic etc.


But actually, it's more inacceptable casinos that are in demand here. I can therefore also recommend avoiding casinos from the N1 Casino Group (Casinorex, BingoBonga). Although they have an MGA license, they have repeatedly requested new redundant documents, even though they are verified.

The N1 Group includes BingoBonga and Casinorex, among others. Both Malta, so security is not really an issue. But apart from the fact that the RTPs have been reduced to the minimum for every provider that offers a range (fair providers such as Thundekick are therefore excluded). The real reason why C1 - despite the MGA - is not accredited is the fact that their casinos are not only offering the unnecessary

I can no longer edit here (as a newbie, perhaps?). I have to complete the last sat. In addition to the reasons mentioned, the absolute no-go at N1 Casinos is that you have to wager YOUR OWN DEPOSITS (no Bonuses or free spins, YOUR money) completely 3 times before they pay it out to you. Purely an attempt to ensure that wins are lost again. I also found it funny that my "VIP manager" (which I got pretty quickly at the beginning) always talked his way out of the low RTP, saying that it was the operator's decision, not the casino's. 1. Can the casino ask for a change, 2. If that were true, why do other casinos have higher ones - do operators favor certain casinos? Absolute nonsense, but no matter what the argument is never got off the assertion.

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Daniel1988
Top Member
I made my last depositor at Legendplay today, if you have to contact the Live Chat every time you claim a bonus 😡
When activating the Reload bonus, consisting of 50 free spins, there is no redirection to the corresponding game, not even the name of the slot is visible during activation.
used 4 times and each time in the chat, then today the upper limit 😂
With the first agent I was referred to the slot "Silverback Gold" which was not even in the list and did not exist there!
Then I went back in and waited 25 minutes with the next employee until I got the answer, "I'm off work" and you're forwarded to the next free agent who ended up crediting me the 50 games for Big Bass Splash and was able to generate a laughable €1.50 from them.
It's so stressful and if there are already problems with activating a bonus, I don't even want to know what to expect when it comes to the payout.

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threeeyedcraven
Visitor

Daniel1988 wrote on 23.09.2024 at 23:17: I made my last depositor at Legendplay today, if you have to contact the Live Chat every time you claim a bonus 😡
When activating the Reload bonus, consisting of 50 free spins, there is no redirection to the corresponding game, not even the name of the slot is visible during activation.
used 4 times and each time in the chat, then today the upper limit 😂
With the first agent I was referred to the slot "Silverback Gold" which was not even in the list and did not exist there!
Then I went back in and waited 25 minutes with the next employee until I got the answer, "I'm off work" and you're forwarded to the next free agent who ended up crediting me the 50 games for Big Bass Splash and was able to generate a laughable €1.50 from them.
It's so stressful and if there are already problems with activating a bonus, I don't even want to know what to expect when it comes to the payout.

I don't even accept Bonuses anymore. Interwetten keeps trying to sell me a 50% Deposit bonus, Lottoland a 50% Deposit bonus for the weekend. The most annoying are bwin with their 100% bonus. Small print: If you don't lose all the money anyway with the 35-fold (!!!) wagering requirement (99% certain) and don't wager it within 7 days, both the bonus and the rest of your stake are gone.


There are always a few reasonably good free spins without conditions, but I once got 50 Elvis Aloha slot free spins at BingoBonga as an imaginary excuse, 20c the spin, and won a very nice 38 euros. Wagering was "generously" reduced to 15x, which is not always a completely crazy 570 euros to wager.

Almost all bonuses are designed to only benefit the casino. In almost all cases, the player loses at least their deposit, the bonus anyway and any extra depositors due to the ridiculous requirements.

They always sound great in the headline, but as soon as you read the small print, it quickly becomes clear that you're better off doing without.

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Tomeklies15987
Rookie
Unfortunately, I can add a new casino to the list, which has been very complicated from the very beginning
in almost all respects and I think it's a shame.
Especially since they are new on the market, they should be making an effort for every potential customer, but the opposite has been and still is the case.

And it bears the name:

Casino Mustang

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Daniel1988
Top Member
Has it become a trend that some casinos try to embezzle depositors after a certain point in time or a certain number of depositors?
It started a year and a half ago at Maneki for the first time, then about 2 months ago at Trino and now currently at Snatch!
The fact that you gamble more than you win is one thing, but now even the depositors aren't getting their money into the player account is quite something.
First I was told that the money was transferred back to my mifinity account, which is an outright lie, then suddenly I'm supposed to wait for an email from the Financial Department.
Do you have to run after them?
The methods that are now being used are really disgusting and take the fun out of gambling.

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Endstation
Amateur

Daniel1988 wrote on 02.10.2024 at 23:09: Has it become a trend that some casinos try to embezzle depositors after a certain point in time or a certain number of deposits?
Started a year and a half ago at Maneki for the first time then about 2 months ago at Trino and now currently at Snatch!
The fact that you gamble more than you win is one thing, but now even the depositors aren't getting their money into the player account is quite something.
First it was said that the money was transferred back to my mifinity account, which is an outright lie, suddenly I'm supposed to wait for a mail from the Financial Department.
Do you have to run after them?
The methods that are now being used are really disgusting and take the fun out of gambling.

With the keyword "Trino", I have to join in now.


The first 2-3 payouts (totaling a little over €2000) took a few days because my game data was first sent to the Provider for Verification blah blah, but at least I received an email from support in advance, knew where I stood and received the money after 7 days.

In mid-September I had 3 payouts in the pipeline (2x 250 & 1x 200) and I wait, I wait and after 10! Days I asked in the chat what the problem was. The first time they said the payouts would be processed within 1-2 days depending on the workload and then simply closed the chat without a word because that was a direct lie.

At the beginning of this week I asked again in a friendly manner what the problem was and was then told that I had only made a request for payment today and therefore nothing could have happened yet (mind you, the two other requests from 20.09 & 21.09 were skillfully ignored when I was smarting) and the chat support can't comment on it anyway and I should write an email.

No sooner said than done and never received an answer to my question.

Because on Wednesday I suddenly received a "payout plan" from them by e-mail saying when I would get what, in the end it wasn't correct because I received all 3 requested amounts yesterday. Nevertheless, as you said, it's curious why it only works at first and over time they get weird about payouts.

Maybe in my case they were just p**sy because my balance is just too good ^^

20€ deposited in total and 3500€ approx. only with Bonus money buy and dare so far.

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