Online Casinos in general: Casinos where you should not play under any circumstances (loss is not a reason!) (Page 32)

Royal777 wrote on 06/16/2022 at 2:43 PM
Two examples:
1) As a player, you do not have the option to refer to the German version of the T&Cs. Some casinos do not have staff with German language skills, which may result in an incorrect translation. This could cause important paragraphs in the policies to be misinterpreted. I would describe this as opaque .

2) There are bonus offers where the casino advertises a turnover requirement of 40xbonus. In the bonus guidelines, the customer learns that the slots wager only 10%. Accordingly, it is a Unzumutbaren bonus with a turnover requirement of 400xBonus. In addition, the presentation of the German edition might not correspond to the original, which could inevitably lead to a violation. This would also be Unzumutbar.

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Donnie wrote on 06/16/2022 at 2:02 pm
And if you don't want to indulge in SOW Verification for example, do the MGA's pay out without exception?

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omenII wrote on 16.06.2022 at 14:59
1. Wrong! FB already had to take a beating in this respect, because the terms and conditions have to be written in German, otherwise they are too incomprehensible
are to be written in German, otherwise they are too incomprehensible. Also the formulation of the AGB, the English
Version has continuance, is complete nonsense, and has zero continuance!

2. This would be fraud, since it almost inevitably comes to a monetary advantage!

3. Do I have to comply with the GTC only if they are clean and the German standard
according to the German standard. Since the offer goes among other things expressly to Germans,
they must also comply with the laws applicable here. But they do not.
Analogous to the slots, which are not offered here because they contain jackpots, for example.
German legislation is also adhered to here.

Therefore, all of your statements are wrong.
To make matters worse, the terms and conditions must comply with the BGB
Not a single one complies with this requirement. Consequently, the contract is void!

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Royal777 wrote on 16.06.2022 at 15:17
No. Why should the casino comply with German laws, although these offers are not explicitly aimed at Germans? Times an excerpt from the terms and conditions of Pino (N1).

The terms and conditions are governed by Maltese law. Even if versions of these terms and conditions are available in other languages, the English language version is always binding.

I also find no contradiction in the consumer protection law
https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/vschdg/BJNR336710006.html

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Royal777 wrote on 16.06.2022 at 13:16
Without exception, all MGA casinos pay out the wins, unless you have violated the T&Cs. Of course there are weak casinos with unreasonable bonus offers as well as with non-transparent T&Cs, nevertheless it is not fraud.

A casino without a license is illegal. Player protection has the highest priority for me

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Krabbenburger wrote on 06/16/2022 at 16:11
Sorry but this is absolute bullshit that all MGA casinos pay .
Just to give a few examples :
Casino winner did not pay a win of 50K € .( Askgamblers)
They also have a monthly payout limit of €2,500 according to Casino Guru .
The entire Condor group has a history of unpaid wins .
Whamoo Casino prohibits so-called "strategic betting" with real money in their terms and conditions. So, for example, increase the bet after you have won.
There are confiscated wins on this basis.
There are also still Malta casinos that limit real money wins e.g. you may not win more than 5,000 € per day.
All with the blessing of the MGA.
The Malta license has for me no value or meaning. On the contrary I consider this license even very bad.
In addition, the possibility that casinos do not pay wins if you do not send highly sensitive data such as bank statements and employment contracts.
The MGA is in my opinion a mafia authority.

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter if a casino is licensed in Malta, Curacao, Estonia, or without a license.
It only matters if they are serious and pay their players and affiliates.

Krabbenburger wrote on 16.06.2022 at 16:11:

The Whamoo Casino prohibits so-called " strategic betting" with real money in their terms and conditions . So for example increase the bet after you have won .

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Royal777 wrote on 06/16/2022 at 4:27 pm
I continue to see no bullshit. If there is a payout limit in the T&Cs, then it is also not possible to pay out more. This has nothing to do with fraud.
Incidentally, I also criticize some casinos because of their limits on wins and payouts.

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Krabbenburger wrote on 06/16/2022 at 16:40
It's not about general payout limits .
It's about the casino cancelling your wins .
So as an example you Deposit 100€ and win 8,000€ .
Now the casino would delete you 3,000 € which you also do not get back.
We are talking only about real money without any bonuses.
That something like this is possible under MGA license only shows how worthless this license is.
Apart from that, this casino would not even pay you the €5,000.
They also have a history of not paying out wins.
The casino is called "Lapilanders". There are several casinos in the group.
Your statement that all MGA casinos would pay out without exception, if you have not violated the terms and conditions, is simply wrong .

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Royal777 wrote on 06/16/2022 at 16:49
Let me ask you a question that I have asked many times in the past 5-6 years. So far no one has been able to show me an example.
Show me a case where both the casino and the MGA cheated the player .

Lapilanders is not a scam, but a very weak casino with unreasonable terms and conditions. If the win limit is €5,000, why should the casino not be allowed to cancel/delete the wins over €5,000?
By the way, the casino also has to pay a tax, namely on every spin made. So to speak, a player could incur enormous costs even though he has long since reached his limit.

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Krabbenburger wrote on 06/16/2022 at 17:06
You don't even seem to know the difference between fraud and embezzlement do you ?
Read through the unsolved cases at Askgamblers and Casino Guru .
Lapilanders and Condor Group have a lot of cases of baseless cancellation of wins.
You think it is right that a casino limits wins with real money without Bonuses?
Just because it is in the terms and conditions?
Imagine something like this would happen in a casino in any European country or in Las Vegas.
The casino would lose its license faster than you could look.

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