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Can you really be the win?
9th Feb. 2018, at 07:25 am CET#1
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Moin moin,
first of all: thank you for every answer, because the forum is an important point of my own therapy the opinion of the community is important to me.
The last few days I have read a lot on the subject of Gambling addiction and the course of "I chase my losses / wins". Many stories from documentaries on Youtube or from TV, as well as simply from the Internet from various sites - at the end there is always clear: The casino ALWAYS wins. You can NOT win. The trend also shows that quite a lot of people are quitting (at least that's how I feel). As a result, I have blocked me in all my casinos - so far so good.
2 questions still pose themselves to me:
1.) I look at Ronny, who always plays disciplined his 9-18 cents (hats off for now, still have great respect for your way to play)...he was according to his own statements (if I interpret it correctly) NEVER at the end of the month in the red. There I ask myself, how is that possible? Aren't all players the losers in the end?
Question: Can you be only with small stakes and fully disciplined in the plus, or is it with anyone here with higher spins also possible?
2.) After looking for the kick at 1-2 euro spins, can you also go back to 20 and 40 cents? I tried it myself the days - gives me unfortunately no longer so the cool feeling.
What does the community say about it? Sorry, if this has all been chewed over at some point / somewhere - it helps me to just let me out about it and think about it.
Maybe there is no other way than to stop completely, if you really want to keep your money? What do you think?
according to the motto: 2K out, yeah....BigWin...days later you put it back in, but nothing comes. 2,5K in, to get 1-2 out again and so on. - a vicious cycle. And I have read many scary stories, also looked into gambling addiction books - interesting but scary.
1.) So I play now since September 2017 online, so far almost daily and have my bets despite large win at Jack and the Beanstalk (0,20€ = 650€) in the free spins, never increased. Play since the beginning on 10cent at Merkur or 20cent online at the Netent slots. Have somehow no desire to increase the bet, because the wins on these bets are completely sufficient for me.
2.) I think once you have increased the stakes to a certain level, you just do not want to go down. But I would times as a small Tip the stakes yet veringern and me simply be clear about it, if I win times 50€, that is actually a lot of money and I think then always how much money that is, for example, for a Hartz 4 recipient and already enough for me even the small stake. On high stakes over 50Cent I would never play, for example, because it's just too much money for me
I think the easiest solution to stop is to approach the whole step by step by just lowering his stakes and is clear about what you can buy everything from the respective win, or how much money that's actually already, eg 50 € = A tank of gas
If you're in the situation like you are, starting with a fat plus, I guess you have to decide whether you want to win or play.
So quit and collect the win or keep playing and quite likely lose in the long run.
Even on the minimum stakes like Ronnie, you would have to mathematically lose in the long run.
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Can you really be the win?
9th Feb. 2018, at 08:50 am CET#5
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I'm uploading a video about how it was for me in the beginning.
I, too, was able to rake in a nice win through dumb luck at the beginning and then was faced with the question "What now?".
Since I donated this win, I didn't have the situation of suddenly having more money.
Since I also had real problems with the casino in which I played at the time, this has deterred me fortunately and I could chalk it up to "once you were lucky".
Since then I play only now and then with small deposits a few rounds or even with handout Bonuses / free spins. I realize that I would have to Risk way too much to get a win like that again and so my head just says "stop".
Basically, I only Deposit under 50€ every holy time when I really feel like playing a few rounds. Freespins and handout bonuses run with me anyway to 90% in the void. That's enough for me to have fun and I always notice the longer I don't play at all the less interesting it gets for me. So something like addiction pressure can not build up with me, I just play too rarely for that
So my biggest recommendation is: take a break, and not just for a few days. After my win I didn't play for almost half a year and that was good.
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Can you really be the win?
9th Feb. 2018, at 08:52 am CET#6
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What I would like to add:
Always keep in mind the true value of money. Yes, sure...you might win something again. But think about what you could do with the bills in your hand instead of losing them.
The deposits I make I do ONLY if I really have it left, and that is really rare for me as a student.
Otherwise I always think to myself "That would be a month of cat food" or "That would be a carton of cigarettes" (yeah, I know, not the healthiest comparison ^^). I think many lose extremely quickly the reference to what the money actually has a purchasing power, because it is so "unreal" as a digital "something" that you can move with a few clicks.
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Can you really be the win?
9th Feb. 2018, at 09:14 am CET#7
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The problem is, if you've been playing for 10 years like I have, you're always trying to recoup your losses.
Yes, I know that doesn't work.
But if I know that I lost 30,000 euros last year, for example, and now I Deposit 100 euros somewhere, spin with 3 euros per spin and let's say I have a big win with 2000 euros, that's often not enough.
I think of it then: Well 2000 won but still 28,000 in the negative. And so you go on, because you hope for the even higher win and in the end the 2000 are gone again.
And so it is a cycle.
If one would win naturally a Jackpot over 1 million, it would be already very ill there still to continue, because it goes then no more highly.
But that's a never-ending topic, and everyone has experienced a lot....
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Can you really be the win?
9th Feb. 2018, at 10:20 am CET#8
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Great, thank you for all the nice and honest comments. That helps me already very much...
1. Step now, pause until at least March. Have all accounts permanently blocked except one. There is already a Deposit limit set up. Since I try in March then on lower stakes to get used to. Let's see how that goes.
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Can you really be the win?
9th Feb. 2018, at 10:29 am CET#9
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Avantgarde83 wrote on 09/02/2018 at 07:25: Moin moin,
1.) Do I look at Ronny, who always disciplined plays his 9- 18 cents (hats off for now, still have great respect for your way and wise to play)...he was according to his own statements (if I interpret it correctly) NEVER at the end of the month in the red. There I ask myself, how is that possible? Aren't all players the losers in the end?
Question: Can you be only with small stakes and fully disciplined in the plus, or is it with anyone here with higher spins also possible?
Correct, you remembered it correctly. I have been playing Online Casinos for 15 months now and have never been in the red. I have been keeping records since the beginning and can therefore say this with certainty.
In the beginning I always played with bonuses. These in 5-6 of 10 cases can also convert. There I played however also with 20,30 or also times 40 cent. Since that would have been me with 10 cents simply even more elaborate than it already is.
When I noticed how much time I spend with the Bonuses and often nix remains, I decided in July last year to play without bonus and since for me determined that I will do this but only with low stakes. I played the Merkur games only with 5 cents and the other games with 10 cents. I know that I probably never make the Big Win. like so others here. But if times 10-20 euros are gone, I often recover them when I win something (eg 50 euros). I take but also in the casinos free spins with or just in Videoslots the Battles. My last big win of 400 euros was "due" to a battle where I had won 2.50 euros and then played Dead of Alive and then had this win.
As you say yourself, you are such battles too elaborate and you bring the few cents or euros nix...me Low Roller but again, these bring a lot.
The problem is simple, who plays with higher stakes, loses in the long run simply more. If then comes to the bonus games in the games nix further yield, then you tear but much more pure than me with my few euros that I have paid.
It is not that I ne times Bock would have what really high to win, the Risk is me personally but much too high. Therefore, I will always continue to play with my stakes so, take everything free with what I can get in the casinos so and behersche me just totally (even if it is really hard) when I have a feeding phase again. I hope it will last forever that I am always in the plus......
Avantgarde83 wrote on 09/02/2018 at 07:25: Moin moin,
first of all: thank you for every answer, because the forum is for myself an important point of my own therapy the opinion of the community is important to me.
2.) Can one after looking for the kick at 1-2 euro spins, also back to 20 and 40 cents? I tried it myself the days - gives me unfortunately no longer so the cool feeling.
everyone is mentally different your kick 1-2 is only in the head, you have increased from 40 ct, partly already at 4 --> what you tell us if you can not stop yourself are soon at 6,8,10 ?
play should be fun in the first place if you can afford it, try to see it the other way around. certain games I would play with 1-2 others only with 60 40 20 ct. because you know one gives a lot the other eats only and again one goes munter down and up.
Question: Can you be only with small stakes and fully disciplined in the plus, or is it with anyone here with higher spins also possible?
you can also be fully disciplined with high stakes in the plus, just always have to find the timely point to get out it holds the rumor that you get on small stakes more often what good than with larger.
Can you really be the win?
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first of all: thank you for every answer, because the forum is an important point of my own therapy the opinion of the community is important to me.
The last few days I have read a lot on the subject of Gambling addiction and the course of "I chase my losses / wins". Many stories from documentaries on Youtube or from TV, as well as simply from the Internet from various sites - at the end there is always clear: The casino ALWAYS wins. You can NOT win. The trend also shows that quite a lot of people are quitting (at least that's how I feel). As a result, I have blocked me in all my casinos - so far so good.
2 questions still pose themselves to me:
1.) I look at Ronny, who always plays disciplined his 9-18 cents (hats off for now, still have great respect for your way to play)...he was according to his own statements (if I interpret it correctly) NEVER at the end of the month in the red. There I ask myself, how is that possible? Aren't all players the losers in the end?
Question: Can you be only with small stakes and fully disciplined in the plus, or is it with anyone here with higher spins also possible?
2.) After looking for the kick at 1-2 euro spins, can you also go back to 20 and 40 cents? I tried it myself the days - gives me unfortunately no longer so the cool feeling.
What does the community say about it? Sorry, if this has all been chewed over at some point / somewhere - it helps me to just let me out about it and think about it.
Maybe there is no other way than to stop completely, if you really want to keep your money? What do you think?
according to the motto: 2K out, yeah....BigWin...days later you put it back in, but nothing comes. 2,5K in, to get 1-2 out again and so on. - a vicious cycle. And I have read many scary stories, also looked into gambling addiction books - interesting but scary.
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1.) So I play now since September 2017 online, so far almost daily and have my bets despite large win at Jack and the Beanstalk (0,20€ = 650€) in the free spins, never increased. Play since the beginning on 10cent at Merkur or 20cent online at the Netent slots. Have somehow no desire to increase the bet, because the wins on these bets are completely sufficient for me.
2.) I think once you have increased the stakes to a certain level, you just do not want to go down. But I would times as a small Tip the stakes yet veringern and me simply be clear about it, if I win times 50€, that is actually a lot of money and I think then always how much money that is, for example, for a Hartz 4 recipient and already enough for me even the small stake. On high stakes over 50Cent I would never play, for example, because it's just too much money for me
I think the easiest solution to stop is to approach the whole step by step by just lowering his stakes and is clear about what you can buy everything from the respective win, or how much money that's actually already, eg 50 € = A tank of gas
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You just have to accept the truth and be aware when it escalates. Then I would also lock myself as soon as possible.
I personally can not understand how you can gamble away house and yard. But there is yes. I escalate there rather moderate and stop me before.
Basically, I would say that no gambler wins.
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So quit and collect the win or keep playing and quite likely lose in the long run.
Even on the minimum stakes like Ronnie, you would have to mathematically lose in the long run.
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I, too, was able to rake in a nice win through dumb luck at the beginning and then was faced with the question "What now?".
Since I donated this win, I didn't have the situation of suddenly having more money.
Since I also had real problems with the casino in which I played at the time, this has deterred me fortunately and I could chalk it up to "once you were lucky".
Since then I play only now and then with small deposits a few rounds or even with handout Bonuses / free spins. I realize that I would have to Risk way too much to get a win like that again and so my head just says "stop".
Basically, I only Deposit under 50€ every holy time when I really feel like playing a few rounds. Freespins and handout bonuses run with me anyway to 90% in the void. That's enough for me to have fun and I always notice the longer I don't play at all the less interesting it gets for me. So something like addiction pressure can not build up with me, I just play too rarely for that
So my biggest recommendation is: take a break, and not just for a few days. After my win I didn't play for almost half a year and that was good.
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Can you really be the win?
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Always keep in mind the true value of money. Yes, sure...you might win something again. But think about what you could do with the bills in your hand instead of losing them.
The deposits I make I do ONLY if I really have it left, and that is really rare for me as a student.
Otherwise I always think to myself "That would be a month of cat food" or "That would be a carton of cigarettes" (yeah, I know, not the healthiest comparison ^^). I think many lose extremely quickly the reference to what the money actually has a purchasing power, because it is so "unreal" as a digital "something" that you can move with a few clicks.
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Yes, I know that doesn't work.
But if I know that I lost 30,000 euros last year, for example, and now I Deposit 100 euros somewhere, spin with 3 euros per spin and let's say I have a big win with 2000 euros, that's often not enough.
I think of it then: Well 2000 won but still 28,000 in the negative. And so you go on, because you hope for the even higher win and in the end the 2000 are gone again.
And so it is a cycle.
If one would win naturally a Jackpot over 1 million, it would be already very ill there still to continue, because it goes then no more highly.
But that's a never-ending topic, and everyone has experienced a lot....
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1. Step now, pause until at least March. Have all accounts permanently blocked except one. There is already a Deposit limit set up. Since I try in March then on lower stakes to get used to. Let's see how that goes.
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Correct, you remembered it correctly. I have been playing Online Casinos for 15 months now and have never been in the red. I have been keeping records since the beginning and can therefore say this with certainty.
In the beginning I always played with bonuses. These in 5-6 of 10 cases can also convert. There I played however also with 20,30 or also times 40 cent. Since that would have been me with 10 cents simply even more elaborate than it already is.
When I noticed how much time I spend with the Bonuses and often nix remains, I decided in July last year to play without bonus and since for me determined that I will do this but only with low stakes. I played the Merkur games only with 5 cents and the other games with 10 cents. I know that I probably never make the Big Win. like so others here. But if times 10-20 euros are gone, I often recover them when I win something (eg 50 euros). I take but also in the casinos free spins with or just in Videoslots the Battles. My last big win of 400 euros was "due" to a battle where I had won 2.50 euros and then played Dead of Alive and then had this win.
As you say yourself, you are such battles too elaborate and you bring the few cents or euros nix...me Low Roller but again, these bring a lot.
The problem is simple, who plays with higher stakes, loses in the long run simply more. If then comes to the bonus games in the games nix further yield, then you tear but much more pure than me with my few euros that I have paid.
It is not that I ne times Bock would have what really high to win, the Risk is me personally but much too high. Therefore, I will always continue to play with my stakes so, take everything free with what I can get in the casinos so and behersche me just totally (even if it is really hard) when I have a feeding phase again. I hope it will last forever that I am always in the plus......
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Can you really be the win?
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everyone is mentally different your kick 1-2 is only in the head, you have increased from 40 ct, partly already at 4 --> what you tell us if you can not stop yourself are soon at 6,8,10 ?
play should be fun in the first place if you can afford it, try to see it the other way around. certain games I would play with 1-2 others only with 60 40 20 ct. because you know one gives a lot the other eats only and again one goes munter down and up.
you can also be fully disciplined with high stakes in the plus, just always have to find the timely point to get out it holds the rumor that you get on small stakes more often what good than with larger.
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