Online Casinos in general: Boycott German casinos please (Page 3)

Butterbrezel wrote on January 27th, 2025 at 7:04 pm:

Because of 2 smileys I suspect n joke, but I still haven't quite checked it after 5 mins.


Why immorality?

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Langhans_innen wrote on January 27, 2025 at 7:12 pm:

maybe "against good taste" describes it better, or at least similarly. Or I would have to think deeper into the declination of the terms, but a previous signature once read "There are no deadspins at StarGames" - maybe you can then better classify how that was meant

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Butterbrezel wrote on January 27th, 2025 at 7:18 pm:

I didn't understand the signature back then either. Of course there are deadspins?


If it is politically assigned, I have to clearly contradict that (Germans eat German bananas )

And in case I haven't realized it yet, that's just the way it is.

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Butterbrezel wrote on January 27th, 2025 at 7:18 pm:

I didn't understand the signature back then either. Of course there are deadspins?


If it is politically related, I must clearly contradict that (Germans eat German bananas )

And if I haven't realized it by now, that's just the way it is.

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Butterbrezel wrote on January 27th, 2025 at 6:18 pm:
Appropriate to the thread: If you're going to gamble, best to do it for real with the Germans. The hunt for suspected money laundering players will not diminish in the future. When it comes to taxes, Germany can't take a joke

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Saphira wrote on January 27th, 2025 at 7:25 pm:

I imagine he means that - although of course we all play in German casinos without exception - it's almost against common decency to assume or recommend it. 😎

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Stromberg wrote on January 27th, 2025 at 3:47 pm:

I guess gamble1 means that over a period of time the slot can make a loss until it evens out and turns around in the long run...

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Langhans_innen wrote on January 27, 2025 at 7:23 pm:

But it was once claimed that there were no deadspins at StarGames (I forget the originator though). I liked that and the current case was no different. But I didn't quite understand the banana thing....so I would say a clear draw

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Saphira wrote on January 27th, 2025 at 9:23 pm:

I think he means with the bananas that German products should not be rejected for political reasons. German casinos and German bananas. That's great. Even if they don't grow here, the bananas. 😎

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Donnie wrote on 26.01.2025 at 11:17 am: Why didn't people get ripped off like they do today? . Even the Curaçaos run badly very often. The German stalls even more so. Is the greed so incredibly great among casinos and game manufacturers? Inflation? Russian oligarch gets sanctions because of the Ukraine war? Is the mafia being taken down too often and earning less? Everything too expensive? Is a yacht not enough? Prostitutes want more money at expensive parties? So why is it that most people only experience underground gambling sessions and no winnings, apart from the few small pipi payouts a year? The greed of man is untouchable

The virtual vending machine tax recorded a significant slump with a decrease of 38.5 percent. After 430 million euros in 2022, it was only 264 million euros in 2023. Taxes from online Poker also fell, dropping by 7.5 percent to 30 million euros. Both types of tax were only introduced in 2021 with the Interstate Gambling Treaty.

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StarGames_Official wrote on January 28th, 2025 at 3:24 pm:


Source for the quote: https://www.zeit.de/wirtschaft/2025-01/gluecksspiel-steuern-deutschland-2023

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Saphira wrote on January 27th, 2025 at 9:23 pm:

I think he means with the bananas that German products should not be rejected for political reasons. German casinos and German bananas. That's great. Even if they don't grow here, the bananas. 😎

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Butterbrezel wrote on January 28th, 2025 at 6:08 pm:

Well almost.


Germans eat German bananas = satire, because there are no German bananas.

The recommendation to only play in German casinos, on the other hand, was actually meant seriously, because the hunt for money laundering suspects will not diminish.

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gamble1 wrote on January 28th, 2025 at 4:21 pm:

From a logical point of view, a decline is actually more than understandable. People realize that they are always going around in circles when they use certain offers and simply don't get much gaming fun for their money. It doesn't matter whether you play online or offline, as all systems run much worse than they did a few years ago.


If you then take advantage of other offers (doesn't even have to be illegal, but can simply be done by visiting a neighboring country), you often notice a huge difference in gaming fun. As a result, some people are more likely to reduce their gaming time to a few days a month or a year, but take advantage of offers that are more fun and where they can win something worthwhile, even if it means traveling.

Of course, there are also many people who take advantage of illegal offers - that is a fact that cannot be contradicted. But the large influx of people to these offers only arises because there are no sensible legal alternatives. If a fair system with an appropriate tax and sensible rules for Player protection existed that did not give players the feeling that they were being restricted in their free choice (e.g. through betting limits or bans on certain games such as live casinos), significantly more people would use the legal offers, if only because of the legal security.
Unfortunately, regulation is currently not moving in this direction. Instead of tackling the core problem, alternative providers are being demonized without admitting that the first proper regulation to include online gaming is not as well thought out as one would have hoped. Especially as many restrictions, be it on stake levels or the playing time of individual games, hardly exist in other countries without players being less well protected there.

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StarGames_Official wrote on January 28, 2025 at 11:43 pm:
Super summarized, we are in agreement here.

We just wanted to show with the articles that it is currently not the legal providers who celebrate every day with several Dom Perignon's and profit from the low RTPs. The money simply flows into the state coffers.

Where it goes after that, we can't even answer ourselves, as Player protection services (such as the BzgA hotline) have to be financed by gambling associations, studies are financed by the authorities but not from the tax, etc. So that's not what it's used for. So that's not what it's used for, what it's collected for...

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