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Online Casinos in general: Blow the whistle on OCT at the next livestream ?

Topic created on 29th Jul. 2017 | Page: 1 of 6 | Answers: 55 | Views: 17,272
Skitch22
Elite
I was thinking that at the next livestream of Online Casino Tube we will expose him as a faker Gamble Joe has caught him faking, so that the others on YouTube know that he is not playing with real money.

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Julian
Elite
That's no use, even if 10 people would spam the chat, you would be instantly blocked in the chat and that's it.
Is similar to other streamers / Youtuber such as Risk casino, I'm sure that many people know that this is not quite as real as it should come across. Nevertheless, it is watched a lot, probably more because of the entertainment factor.
And therefore that would unfortunately bring nothing in my eyes.

I used to like OCT very much, especially Maximal Einsatz seemed very cool to me. But since they started streaming they have changed a lot in my eyes, both from their "content" and personally, at least that's how it comes across.

Especially since I have won a few months ago in a competition on their website and until today I have received no response or anything else on my mails.
Have seen a couple of weeks ago in a stream as another has also asked for the PSC's regarding the contest and was first totally Ignored and then in the chat even Ausgetimed (comment was deleted) ... I do not know whether they were themselves or whether that were any mods of them on Twitch. But you do not have to give yourself something like that.

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J****r
I like to watch the streams and videos. I don't care if it's fake, what's real on the internet? I think they still come across authentic and entertaining it is in any case.

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Skitch22
Elite
JoKer wrote on 29.07.2017 at 23:09: I like to watch the streams and videos. I don't care if it's fake, what's real on the internet? I think they still come across authentic and entertaining it is definitely.

no they do not come across authentic play that only. All the stories of those with Asia etc. is invented.

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J****r
Even if - where is the problem now? In addition, it is advisable to provide a source when making claims (that Asia is a lie, etc.), otherwise it will come across as neither credible nor serious.... my opinion.

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Slothot
Amateur
One source? Preferably two in order to meet journalistic standards?
You don't need a source for that... the guys are mega fake, nothing else.

At the last stream, I made together with one or two others powerful stunk in the chat. Over two hours. Had nothing better to do. Was namely with the kids in bed.
Have announced that the next stream to do again. Just because it's worth it to me to put their shit a leg.
There was also for over two weeks nix more. A rogue who evil....

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Stealth
Rookie
Without wanting to take OCT's side, it is a general problem with casino streamers. The casinos are of course keen to attract such streamers. This is great marketing and the rewards for streamers look accordingly... Certainly difficult to simply reject such offers.

Well, and that's true about Asia. There was already webcam, hand signals into the camera, liveblogs etc.. But I can't imagine that Max is so successful professionally. Money is definitely available there. But no company appoints an employee in a high position with such a lifestyle AND such a bad reliability (announcements, lotteries etc). Also, he would have to take months of vacation for the Asia trip. This is usually not possible in everyday working life.
I guess therefore rather on entrepreneur son with pseudo position and good payment. This would then also fit that he always speaks with a guilty conscience of his losses and has already made as a child in Dubai vacation.

But these are only assumptions into the blue. Everything can also be different. Actually, it's also stupid to speculate about it and in principle it's really none of our business. I found the livestreams quite entertaining and that's the point. The only thing I now find mega shit is that at least partly played with promo money and the lies that it is real money.

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J****r
Slothot wrote on 31/07/2017 at 06:47: One source? Preferably two to meet journalistic standards?!
You don't need a source for that... these guys are mega fake, nothing else.

Yes of course a source. Sorry but that's the way it is. I can also claim that I am the crucified Jesus. Do you believe me then? Without evidence/source etc. what you write is just as credible/uncredible as OCT...sorry. Seems more like envy of others, you know.

I'm not interested in talking down anyone in the forum here and certainly not to attack. I just want to be neutral.
I have also seen the picture where Daniel "caught" the guys in the stream. That is of course also to condemn.
Just to claim that OCT is basically fake in everything they do, without even providing any proof, is not acceptable in my opinion. After all, they've been making videos for Youtube for ages, even before they started streaming.

The videos from the casinos are also not fake and are of course entertaining. The click numbers prove that.
Honestly, I don't understand where some see the problem. Let the people do what they want or is someone behind you with a gun and forces you to watch it?
Click away and done. I would have there no Bock on it, and also no time for me to get into it...
Greetings

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S****8
Simply kindergarten !

Am guaranteed no fan of OCT ...have me very gladly but the videos from the arcades and casinos (offline) watched and they were guaranteed no fake!
The streaming is always such a thing but that's why someone here to "blow the whistle" is kindergarten .
And that will certainly not itch ...they have their fan base and their subscribers ...ready!

What is the point ?

Just do not look at !!!

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Daniel
Elite
In that case, 90% of all youtubers / twitchers would have to be exposed by now. Online-Casinos-Tube is at least still authentic in their way and the way they tell the story is okay compared to the other asses. And at least it's still partially real and not a complete spoof like some of the others. There are now also pure business men in the Youtube / Twitch scene, who have never gambled a cent in their lives themselves and rant in the background about players according to the motto, how can you be so stupid and gamble. With such people I really get nen hate.

Online casinos tube is not a complete fake, because at least the casino videos are real.

Without OCT now in protection to take, I can also tell you the reasons why they have decided to Online Casinos tube now also to fake:

1. Competitive pressure:The others Faken also. OCT is dependent on Youtube- / Twitch, because they have no or no bigger website. People want to see videos, competition is constantly delivering videos, money may be tight right now - so what to do? Right ... I don't know what else these guys do besides gambling. But the revenue from Youtube / Twitch will probably be a good part of their revenue and they are just trying to keep that up.

2. Subscription pressure: I don't know how it is at OCT but we often get requests privately or as comments like: "Why are there no new videos coming?". When we then answer that winning videos do not grow on trees and only come when we just gamble - and want to gamble ourselves. Then we already had as an answer: "Then I unsubscribe you now and go to xyz". If we were now financially dependent on Youtube / Twitch, then such news would of course be scary and cause for concern. As I said, we can see this loosely, because we have built up not only in the gambling area the last few years through hard work something that we are not dependent on it, thank God. I just briefly thought to myself: "What a spaz!" and that was it.

You can go after OCT now, but I don't think it's quite correct. If, then one should let expose all others as the very first. I personally ignore OCT a little disappointed but that's it. I would only blow the whistle on OCT if they changed their marketing strategy to an unethical one and suddenly issued profit guarantees or something similar.

I think it would be best if the regulators would stop this kind of advertising and would not be allowed to support the production of profit videos with money. I am not a lawyer but there would certainly be enough reasons. Distortion of reality, misrepresentation of facts, anti-competition (against the few honest Youtubers / Twitchers), unethical gambling advertising, promotion of Gambling addiction, possibly even fraud.

If you really want to change something, you should write to the MGA, Isle of Men regulator, Gibratar regulator, etc. and complain about the situation. After all, the regulators in Europe are under political pressure and such actions could possibly even lead to success. I would celebrate this so incredibly!!!

One would have to achieve the following:

1. The online casinos are not allowed to employ staff for this kind of advertising.
2. The online casinos may not give out extra money to Twitcher / Youtuber.
3. The online casinos may not give out a disproportionate amount of Bonuses to Youtuber / Twitcher.

This would mean that 90 - 95% of all youtubers / twitchers would fall flat, leaving only the few channels of real gamblers who are forced to gamble as well. Because in the fewest cases, the channels are profitable (from a purely economic point of view). If you play with real money, in the long run you always get more money out than you get in ...

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