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Blocking bank account and display expiry?
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i am new here and urgently need your advice. I have already searched the forum but have not found a suitable answer.
I have been playing for years with Lottoland and other providers which, as I have now learned, are not legal. I am very afraid of being reported to the police and having my account closed. I have now set up a second account to be on the safe side in case the first one is closed. I have always made smaller deposits and withdrawals since 2016. The bank hasn't contacted me yet and hasn't asked any questions, but I didn't care because I didn't know that the activities could be illegal. My question:
1. How do I find out about a complaint? Will the account be closed first and will the bank inform me and can I assume that it will be passed on to the police?
2. Why has nothing been done since 2016? The bank should be aware that Lottoland in particular is illegal and automatically prevent any depositors and withdrawals?
3. Should I now cancel the account that was used for gambling as a precaution or is this more likely to wake sleeping dogs? I'm about to consult a lawyer, but I'm still afraid of the costs
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https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/online-casinos/allgemeines/anzeige-wegen-unerlaubten-glucksspiel-285-stgb-214033/52/#p422356
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Thank you very much. I have already read through the thread. However, as I said, I don't understand when it comes to reporting. A friend of mine has also been playing at Lottohelden for years without any problems. Is this related to the amount?
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the best thing would be to simply stop using your bank account when you pay in or out of casinos. what exactly is the point of the second account now? no matter which bank and whether old or new account..don't do it anymore. Use other payment methods or only play in licensed casinos. Save the money for the lawyer if you really get into trouble. What should they do? He will certainly not advise you to report yourself
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The second account is for security purposes and is of course not used for gambling. Why do you think it wouldn't make sense to report yourself?
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Hi Hulk and welcome to GJ
The number of known cases against the number of players who play in illegal casinos and have not been caught is certainly extremely low in comparison.
Self-reporting in this case is absolute nonsense. Either the bank catches you or it doesn't.
The transactions since July 2021 are particularly critical. Before that, it was a gray area. I am not aware of any case in which there are current proceedings for transactions before July 2021.
The proceedings are currently also specifically because of the payouts and the associated suspicion of money laundering (if you receive funds from untraceable = unlicensed sources).
So just wait and see and stop using your bank account for gambling immediately.
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Thank you very much. I can't understand why the debits are not automatically blocked with an illegal provider. With Lottohelden, for example.
All you have to do is google whether the Provider is legal or not. If I can do that, why can't the banks?
How have the players been caught so far? What evidence is there?
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Transactions are usually conspicuous either by their amount or their number. But it can also be a coincidence if the bank looks at your account and an employee takes a closer look.
Illegal transactions could theoretically be blocked, but ultimately the responsibility lies with you to make sure you're not doing anything illegal - not the bank.
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As far as I understand it now, Lottoland/helden and everything else was illegal before 2021 and now things like Tipico are legal. But Lottland/Helden is not yet. So it probably doesn't matter if you did it before 2021.
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And have you ever received anything from the bank and what amounts are involved?
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I would refrain from self-disclosure. Even if you are currently plagued by a guilty conscience. Do not make any more depositors via the bank, no matter which one. Switch to an e-wallet. Familiarize yourself with the legal regulations in Germany and then you can decide for yourself whether you want to continue playing in illegal casinos.
And if you do receive mail, you can still react.
I wouldn't paint the devil on the wall just yet
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So far nothing has come yet. Let's hope it stays that way. I haven't played there for a while now, I've only ever lost. I think the highest depositor was 50 euros. Paid out a few times too, but never more than 10 euros. You won't get rich there ... 😅
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And e-wallets are not the focus when you have a win paid out to your account?
I still don't quite understand why some people are notified and some people aren't by the bank... what's the connection?
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There could be various reasons. It's not as if an alarm is immediately triggered at the bank when someone pays into or out of an illegal casino. Rather, the personal account management, the monthly deposits and withdrawals, which are considered normal for the customer, and - as stupid as it sometimes sounds - luck and bad luck play a role.
Some bank advisors may gamble themselves and look the other way, others report it immediately. You're simply not in it. It's like many things in life: Just because there's a law doesn't necessarily mean that everyone involved follows it as strictly as they should.
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