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Online Casinos in general: Blocking bank account and display expiry?

Topic created on 28th Nov. 2024 | Page: 1 of 1 | Answers: 7 | Views: 396
Hulk0707

Blocking bank account and display expiry?

28th Nov. 2024, at 10:56 am CET#1
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Dear Community,

i am new here and urgently need your advice. I have already searched the forum but have not found a suitable answer.

I have been playing for years with Lottoland and other providers which, as I have now learned, are not legal. I am very afraid of being reported to the police and having my account closed. I have now set up a second account to be on the safe side in case the first one is closed. I have always made smaller deposits and withdrawals since 2016. The bank hasn't contacted me yet and hasn't asked any questions, but I didn't care because I didn't know that the activities could be illegal. My question:
1. How do I find out about a complaint? Will the account be closed first and will the bank inform me and can I assume that it will be passed on to the police?
2. Why has nothing been done since 2016? The bank should be aware that Lottoland in particular is illegal and automatically prevent any depositors and withdrawals?
3. Should I now cancel the account that was used for gambling as a precaution or is this more likely to wake sleeping dogs? I'm about to consult a lawyer, but I'm still afraid of the costs

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denyo123
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Blocking bank account and display expiry?

28th Nov. 2024, at 04:15 pm CET#2
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Welcome to the forum. The following thread should help you:

https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/online-casinos/allgemeines/anzeige-wegen-unerlaubten-glucksspiel-285-stgb-214033/52/#p422356

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Hulk0707

Blocking bank account and display expiry?

28th Nov. 2024, at 04:23 pm CET#3
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denyo123 wrote on 28.11.2024 at 16:15: Welcome to the forum. The following thread should help you:

https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/online-casinos/allgemeines/anzeige-wegen-unerlaubten-glucksspiel-285-stgb-214033/52/#p422356

Thank you very much. I have already read through the thread. However, as I said, I don't understand when it comes to reporting. A friend of mine has also been playing at Lottohelden for years without any problems. Is this related to the amount?

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roccoammo11
Expert

Blocking bank account and display expiry?

28th Nov. 2024, at 04:38 pm CET#4
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Hulk0707 wrote on 28.11.2024 at 10:56 am: Dear Community,

i am new here and urgently need your advice. I have already searched the forum but have not found a suitable answer.

I have been playing at Lottoland and other providers for years, which I have now learned are not legal. I am very afraid of being reported to the police and having my account closed. I have now set up a second account to be on the safe side in case the first one is closed. I have always made smaller deposits and withdrawals since 2016. The bank hasn't contacted me yet and hasn't asked any questions, but I didn't care because I didn't know that the activities could be illegal. My question:
1. How do I find out about a complaint? Will the account be closed first and will the bank inform me and can I assume that it will be passed on to the police?
2. Why has nothing been done since 2016? The bank should be aware that Lottoland in particular is illegal and automatically prevent any depositors and withdrawals?
3. Should I now cancel the account that was used for gambling as a precaution or is this more likely to wake sleeping dogs? I am about to consult a lawyer for advice but I am still afraid of the costs

the best thing would be to simply stop using your bank account when you pay in or out of casinos. what exactly is the point of the second account now? no matter which bank and whether old or new account..don't do it anymore. Use other payment methods or only play in licensed casinos. Save the money for the lawyer if you really get into trouble. What should they do? He will certainly not advise you to report yourself

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Hulk0707

Blocking bank account and display expiry?

28th Nov. 2024, at 04:46 pm CET#5
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roccoammo11 wrote on 28.11.2024 at 16:38:

the best thing would be to just stop using your bank account when you Deposit or withdraw at casinos. what exactly is the point of the second account now? no matter which bank and whether old or new account..don't do it anymore. Use other payment methods or only play in licensed casinos. Save the money for the lawyer if you really get into trouble. What should they do? He will certainly not advise you to report yourself

The second account is for security purposes and is of course not used for gambling. Why do you think it wouldn't make sense to report yourself?

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Butterbrezel
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Blocking bank account and display expiry?

28th Nov. 2024, at 06:54 pm CET#6
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Hulk0707 wrote on 28.11.2024 at 10:56 am: Dear Community,

i am new here and urgently need your advice. I have already searched the forum but have not found a suitable answer.

I have been playing for years at Lottoland and other providers which, as I have now learned, are not legal. I am very afraid of being reported to the police and having my account closed. I have now set up a second account to be on the safe side in case the first one is closed. I have always made smaller deposits and withdrawals since 2016. The bank hasn't contacted me yet and hasn't asked any questions, but I didn't care because I didn't know that the activities could be illegal. My question:
1. How do I find out about a complaint? Will the account be closed first and will the bank inform me and can I assume that it will be passed on to the police?
2. Why has nothing been done since 2016? The bank should be aware that Lottoland in particular is illegal and automatically prevent any depositors and withdrawals?
3. Should I now cancel the account that was used for gambling as a precaution or is this more likely to wake sleeping dogs? I'm about to consult a lawyer for advice but I'm still afraid of the costs

Hi Hulk and welcome to GJ


The number of known cases against the number of players who play in illegal casinos and have not been caught is certainly extremely low in comparison.

Self-reporting in this case is absolute nonsense. Either the bank catches you or it doesn't.

The transactions since July 2021 are particularly critical. Before that, it was a gray area. I am not aware of any case in which there are current proceedings for transactions before July 2021.
The proceedings are currently also specifically because of the payouts and the associated suspicion of money laundering (if you receive funds from untraceable = unlicensed sources).

So just wait and see and stop using your bank account for gambling immediately.

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Hulk0707

Blocking bank account and display expiry?

28th Nov. 2024, at 09:03 pm CET#7
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Butterbrezel wrote on November 28th, 2024 at 6:54 pm:
Hi Hulk and welcome to GJ


The number of known cases against the number of players who play in illegal casinos and have not been caught is certainly extremely low in comparison.

Self-reporting in this case is absolute nonsense. Either the bank catches you or it doesn't.

The transactions since July 2021 are particularly critical. Before that, it was a gray area. I am not aware of any case in which there are current proceedings for transactions before July 2021.
The proceedings are currently also specifically because of the payouts and the associated suspicion of money laundering (if you receive funds from untraceable = unlicensed sources).

So just wait and see and stop using your bank account for gambling immediately


Thank you very much. I can't understand why the debits are not automatically blocked with an illegal provider. With Lottohelden, for example.
All you have to do is google whether the Provider is legal or not. If I can do that, why can't the banks?
How have the players been caught so far? What evidence is there?

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gamble1
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Blocking bank account and display expiry?

28th Nov. 2024, at 09:18 pm CET#8
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Hulk0707 wrote on November 28th, 2024 at 9:03 pm:

Thank you very much. I can't understand why the direct debits are not automatically blocked with an illegal provider. For example with Lottohelden.
You just have to google whether the Provider is legal or not. If I can do that, why can't the banks?
How have the players been caught so far? What evidence is there?

Transactions are usually conspicuous either by their amount or their number. But it can also be a coincidence if the bank looks at your account and an employee takes a closer look.

Illegal transactions could theoretically be blocked, but ultimately the responsibility lies with you to make sure you're not doing anything illegal - not the bank.

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