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Online Casinos in general: Bank cancels account! Casino payments at fault? (Page 2)

Topic created on 22nd Jan. 2022 | Page: 2 of 7 | Answers: 66 | Views: 18,882
Katharina2
Top Member
Falko wrote on 22.01.2022 at 16:50: The payment service Klarna also operates an online bank. Maybe you are better off there, because this bank is operated from Sweden, if you are looking for alternatives now. At this bank there is even interest on time deposits, which is no longer available at any German bank.

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Germany - BaFin

Klarna Bank AB (publ) holds a European Passport for EEA Institutions for the provision of cross-border services in Germany from the German Federal Financial Supervisory Authority (BaFin). For more information about our authorization with BaFin, please click here.

In addition to the Swedish license, no one can get past BAFIN and is always
ultimately dependent on what the German state allows or does not allow.

Source: https://www.klarna.com/de/uber-uns/corporate-governance/

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Krabbenburger
Experienced
Katharina2 wrote on 22.01.2022 at 17:28
Posts pop up here every now and then where the account has been suspended. This is
nothing new and is part of the implementation of GlüStV 2021 (see also post 9),
so no wave, but who does not pay attention, has drawn the A card. But opening a
new to open should not be a problem. I, for example, have already started in 2019
and use my account here as primary account for the normal things
Otherwise there's an account offshore, for the many other little things in life
of life.

Which bank are you with ?
And there are no problems with the bank when you gamble ?

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Sarkasto
Expert
Falko wrote on 22.01.2022 at 16:50: The payment service Klarna also operates an online bank. Maybe you are better off there, because this bank is operated from Sweden, if you are looking for alternatives now. At this bank there is even interest on time deposits, which is no longer available at any German bank.

otherwise I can recommend c24 bank, there are 50€ if you verify yourself via postident or videoident. is also a pure online bank. at least to pick up the 50€, it is worth a look (you can cancel after 15 days)

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Anonym
Sarkasto wrote on 22.01.2022 at 17:56
otherwise i can recommend c24 bank, there are 50€ if you verify yourself via postident or videoident. is also a pure online bank. at least to pick up the 50€, it is worth a look (you can cancel after 15 days).

Hey thanks for the tip. This only goes until the end of the month!

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Paddington
Expert
My choice fell on Nuri, formerly Bitwalla. Very interesting and future-oriented! There also runs a 50€ new customer action!

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BenOssi123
Rookie
So to open a second account (independent of the primary) makes sense. But what's the point if they want to know why I'm constantly transferring money back and forth (Neteller, Skrill etc)?

The question is also whether Skrill / Neteller also have to give information to the state, similar to how Bitpanda does that.

You can no longer transfer money without Risk, if the banks now make so much fuss! Even cryptos are eventually converted back into fiat and paid out.

What is the master plan, or have you thought the whole story through to the end?

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t****o
BenOssi123 wrote on 22.01.2022 at 19:15: So a second account (independent of the primary) to open already makes sense. But what's the point if they want to know why I'm constantly transferring money back and forth (Neteller, Skrill etc)?

The question is also whether Skrill / Neteller also have to give information to the state, similar to how Bitpanda does it.

You can no longer transfer money without Risk, if the banks now make so much fuss! Even cryptos are eventually converted back into fiat and paid out.

What is the master plan, or have you thought the whole story through to the end?

My speech! It is or will soon no longer be possible to transfer funds unnoticed or to withdraw them without attracting attention.

Already now, the tax office can query data without any problems:

What does the bank report to the tax office?

Via the account retrieval, the tax office learns with which credit institutions you have accounts and securities accounts and can then find out the account and securities account number, the date of opening and closing of the account and securities account as well as the name and date of birth of the holder and other authorized disposers

And also

The German tax office can today access high-quality data on foreign accounts and systematically evaluate this account data. The Federal Central Tax Office is currently evaluating 1.1 million messages from this data exchange.

So if you think you're smarter, you'll probably have mail at some point. Maybe not now or next month, but the time will come
will come
They don't live on the moon, after all, and know exactly how funds are concealed





I think that the whole system will now be set up, more or less automated, and then we will receive a hail of notices.

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Anonym
I myself got in mighty trouble with the bank 2 weeks ago.... I was able to solve everything thank God, because no one can trace where the money went.... Everyone can guess, but it was not verifiable ... I think that there is more control at the moment... I have been playing for 9 years. Have never made debts or negatively noticed...have my steady job, house etc...and yet it has now also caught me... But the full broadside.. I for myself have learned from it and now either completely renounce online games or really only in ways where it really absolutely no one notices.... And I think that is almost impossible. At the latest dan, if it would go around a high payout, it falls again on... I myself have now learned from it...even if it has become legal, it still does not mean that the banks etc see it as legal it is still a red rag for the banks

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LittleFu
Amateur
What did you say the payments were for?
I think as long as you don't touch the overdraft, the bank doesn't give a damn
whether you play online casinos.

And whether the banks, especially the Deutsche Bank here makes one on moral apostle?
How many billions do they have lying on the side to pay penalties.

And what you do with the money is just a rhetorical question.
They simply google the payees

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Katharina2
Top Member
tequiero wrote on 22/01/2022 at 19:39
My speech! It is or will soon no longer be possible to transfer funds unnoticed, or to withdraw without it being noticed.

Already now the tax office can query data without problems:

What does the bank report to the tax office?

Via the account retrieval, the tax office finds out at which credit institutions you have accounts and securities accounts and can then find out the account and securities account number, the date of opening and closing of the account and securities account as well as the name and date of birth of the holder and other authorized disposers

And also

The German tax office can today access high-quality data on foreign accounts and systematically evaluate this account data. The Federal Central Tax Office is currently evaluating 1.1 million messages from this data exchange.

So if you think you're smarter, you'll probably have mail at some point. Maybe not now or next month, but the time will come
will come
They don't live on the moon, after all, and know exactly how funds are concealed





I think that the whole system will now be set up, more or less automated, and then we will receive a hail of notices.


Of course it is right that they have an agreement and control data flows worldwide, they are allowed to do that. From 10000€ 'all accounts' can inquire and who is HighRoller, must worry about it still completely different.

But this does not concern our problem and the average player. It's not about hiding funds, it's about being allowed to play in peace and not risking account termination at the first payment to a casino.
It is always important to note that the payment Provider does not have a German license (BAFIN). Thus, he is not subject to German rules.

What you mean concerns tax evasion and no taxes are due on gambling anyway. Proofs are to be kept as a precaution nevertheless, should it become high amounts. Otherwise, a transfer is made to a primary account and no one has ever asked. As long as the matter remains within the framework, not anyway.

If I know how, it will also not hail evidence. Also the player does not live on the moon. Do not unsettle the users.

Because I just read posts 18 and 19: the worst is of course if the banks can read that it is casinos.
At the latest, you have to change your payment model.


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