Zwischenmeister wrote on 07/20/2019 at 15:42
So I think there should be a clear distinction here between first-timers, i.e. newbies, and, I'll say, "us".
I remember exactly my first time. Sure, I only had to pay one Euro, but I got 20 or so to play. It was just a pastime for me. Sorry, no one, but really no one, when he spontaneously accepts such an offer, even begins to think about the fact that there could be rules that prohibit you to play this or that game, to bet more than 5 euros per spin or so much per betting line. DAMN IT,. A normal person doesn't know what a crappy betting line is. EIGENTLICH IST and even less which slot has how many of them. And he doesn't want that at all, he wants to play ne.Runde. Fun and not be careful not to do anything wrong
On this first day, the fact that before I actually get the won 300 euros, I still have to convert the received bonus amount x times, was so far away that I did not want to believe it at first and there already talked about "screwing people" and "rip-off". And that's exactly what it was and still is today.
You are all so caught up in your f**king bubble that you really think a normal non-gambling and casino-experienced person should consider such things and read the terms and conditions forever before playing a small game? You guys are crazy. For you, all these pranks have become so normal that you don't even ask yourselves how insane these requirements are. 50x wagering to receive an amount equal to the original bonus amount as a max cashout.
Sorry, but if you can not even put yourself in a person who just does not assume that a large company in their terms and conditions loud things in it has, which you as a normal person not only does not take into account,
BUT, EVEN IF YOU READ THEM ON YOUR FIRST VISIT TO AN OC, YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND THEIR REAL MEANING AND THE SCOPE OF SOME DETAILS,
then I can only say, I'm sorry, you live in a sad world.... For you, such business behavior has become commonplace and you therefore consider it normal. If you would try to explain something like this to outsiders, you might notice their irritated looks, that this is not normal in all social classes...
Well, when I gambled through sports betting, or their casino offer, the first time slots or Blackjack, my first thoughts were actually: Really? that you can just play online? And if I win, do they really transfer the money to me? Can I trust them with their headquarters somewhere in Malta? That's why I came across gamblejoe for the first time, at that time still the simple website without a forum, because I got some information there, how it all is with online gambling
And honestly, of course, the non-gambling person does not know what a betting line is, etc.
But anyone with a minimum of brains should actually check that nothing is simply given out of charity, even no Deposit bonus. But maybe many people are just jaded by now by all the social media crap, apps etc. etc. where even without thinking e.g. the flashlight app all permissions and access to the phone are granted, of course makes sense. 10 free spins on starburst worth 1 euro should be picked up in any case at all casinos found on the Internet, is finally free, is certainly well-intentioned
What I want to say is: of course it would be cool if all casinos would prevent it technically that you accidentally violate AGB's. But, we are all hopefully adults, if someone wants to give you something for free, you should at least question, so I find "self-inflicted" actually very appropriate!
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I wouldn't say jaded. Name me one reputable sector where there are only half as many
AGB gives, as in on-line Casinos. Which are so negative that they are unique.
It should all be serious, I find but with serious companies not even rudimentary such
AGB. Since I would have to dig deep, probably loan shark or the like, which come close to such
AGB rankommen
OC present themselves but as absolutely serious. If it would be really important to them, they would make it technically
so that it is not possible to violate the terms and conditions. Casino makes itself credible, no more
"crap" more, everything would be ok.
Casinos claim that everything is coincidence, they can not intervene anywhere, etc.
They trick you already with the Bonus terms and conditions, what is then only with the rest?
I as a casino want to rip off the people who are not careful or inexperienced. Is yet
quite clear. A casino has but not necessary, because of RTP and so, and they earn
but anyway enough. One should think about it
Do not believe that it suddenly stops at the AGB....
Of course, I agree with you completely. But you don't have to be an Einstein for that. That they don't want to sweeten your day with a welcome gift, but save your data, want to win you as a customer (for a product known to be addictive) and ultimately want to earn money from you, must be clear from the start to anyone who hasn't gone home from the schoolyard with strange men with sweets.
This fact can one in purchase take or not, one can think however quite, with it it would be then also good. Because honestly, is there any other industry in the conditions of this kind on the agenda, or in the terms and conditions are?
All other industries with such "customer-friendly" conditions, I say now times...do not need AGB around their "company policy" to push through, which make then rather with intimidation and which there is still so. And then no one goes to the cops....äh, the MGA I mean
Zwischenmeister wrote on 20.07.2019 at 16:44: Well sure, I agree with you completely. But you don't have to be an Einstein for that now either. That they don't want to sweeten your day with a welcome gift, but save your data, want to win you as a customer (for a product known to be addictive) and ultimately want to earn money from you, must be clear from the start to anyone who has not gone home from the schoolyard with strange men with sweets.
This fact can one in purchase take or not, one can think however quite, with it it would be then also good. Because honestly, is there any other industry in the conditions of this kind on the agenda, or in the terms and conditions are?
All other industries with such "customer-friendly" conditions, I say now times...do not need AGB around their "company policy" to push through, which make then rather with intimidation and which there is still so. And then no one goes to the cops....uh, the MGA I mean
Edit: blue46 was faster with a similar approach...
Edit 2: edit, quote yourself,,,,, is but one... Sorry for double post
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What is the point of ever new discussions about fraud etc.? Who is right or so. Is but in the end no matter shit since you can change nothing anyway and never someone can say for sure how it is...I mean is just a waste of time and leads to nothing
Well, Capriz, you've finally found a few comrades-in-arms.
Then keep on talking your ears off.
I've already made you the suggestion once.... introduces supervised play, that would be a great task for you.
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The troublemaker is back again.
Doesn't it go according to your opinion, and now the crying starts?
You could stay out of such a thread, but that's not possible.
Make a few more 20 cent turns, there is soon money!
A reasonable conversation is not possible with you.
Goes only to insult.
Since the personal frustration must sit but very deep!
You are, by the way, the best example of why this thread was made.
Be proud of gambling, and that you can read AGB? Wow, me hauts around!
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20th Jul. 2019, at 10:57 pm CEST#58
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Chillaqueen92 wrote on 07/20/2019 at 8:22 pm: What's the point of ever new discussions about scams etc. anyway. Who is right or so. Is but in the end no matter shit because you can change nothing anyway and never anyone can say for sure how it is...I mean is just a waste of time and leads to nothing.
Wrong!
For me, such discussions have led to reduce my deposits.
Especially when I feel fooled and read here that some others are also like that then I hardly get into "uncontrolled situations".
That is actually ne good thing, or not?
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Yes, if it stops you from gambling, but whether there are online casino scams or not, there will never be a clear answer
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upola wrote on 20.07.2019 at 20:46: Well Capriz you have now finally found a few comrades-in-arms.
Then keep on blathering your ears off.
I have you already once made the proposal....introduces supervised play,that would be a great job for you.
That's what you wrote:
I just cashed out 530 euros at Casumo .
I was told in the chat that everything is fine and I don't need to verify myself.
I do not trust the roast.
Then you ask the question if you can play slots with a PayPal deposit. I'll answer that question nicely.
Haha, maybe you need the supervised play. That you tremble at a 500 euro payout the knees and you have to open WITHOUT cause a topic because you do not trust the casino, is just to throw away funny, considering what you preach here otherwise
If everyone was like you, then we would say: Just read the terms and conditions
But it's all good, we'll continue to look after you here with pleasure
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Well, when I gambled through sports betting, or their casino offer, the first time slots or Blackjack, my first thoughts were actually: Really? that you can just play online? And if I win, do they really transfer the money to me? Can I trust them with their headquarters somewhere in Malta? That's why I came across gamblejoe for the first time, at that time still the simple website without a forum, because I got some information there, how it all is with online gambling
And honestly, of course, the non-gambling person does not know what a betting line is, etc.
But anyone with a minimum of brains should actually check that nothing is simply given out of charity, even no Deposit bonus. But maybe many people are just jaded by now by all the social media crap, apps etc. etc. where even without thinking e.g. the flashlight app all permissions and access to the phone are granted, of course makes sense. 10 free spins on starburst worth 1 euro should be picked up in any case at all casinos found on the Internet, is finally free, is certainly well-intentioned
What I want to say is: of course it would be cool if all casinos would prevent it technically that you accidentally violate AGB's. But, we are all hopefully adults, if someone wants to give you something for free, you should at least question, so I find "self-inflicted" actually very appropriate!
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AGB gives, as in on-line Casinos. Which are so negative that they are unique.
It should all be serious, I find but with serious companies not even rudimentary such
AGB. Since I would have to dig deep, probably loan shark or the like, which come close to such
AGB rankommen
OC present themselves but as absolutely serious. If it would be really important to them, they would make it technically
so that it is not possible to violate the terms and conditions. Casino makes itself credible, no more
"crap" more, everything would be ok.
Casinos claim that everything is coincidence, they can not intervene anywhere, etc.
They trick you already with the Bonus terms and conditions, what is then only with the rest?
I as a casino want to rip off the people who are not careful or inexperienced. Is yet
quite clear. A casino has but not necessary, because of RTP and so, and they earn
but anyway enough. One should think about it
Do not believe that it suddenly stops at the AGB....
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This fact can one in purchase take or not, one can think however quite, with it it would be then also good. Because honestly, is there any other industry in the conditions of this kind on the agenda, or in the terms and conditions are?
All other industries with such "customer-friendly" conditions, I say now times...do not need AGB around their "company policy" to push through, which make then rather with intimidation and which there is still so. And then no one goes to the cops....äh, the MGA I mean
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Edit: blue46 was faster with a similar approach...
Edit 2: edit, quote yourself,,,,, is but one... Sorry for double post
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Then keep on talking your ears off.
I've already made you the suggestion once.... introduces supervised play, that would be a great task for you.
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Doesn't it go according to your opinion, and now the crying starts?
You could stay out of such a thread, but that's not possible.
Make a few more 20 cent turns, there is soon money!
A reasonable conversation is not possible with you.
Goes only to insult.
Since the personal frustration must sit but very deep!
You are, by the way, the best example of why this thread was made.
Be proud of gambling, and that you can read AGB? Wow, me hauts around!
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Wrong!
For me, such discussions have led to reduce my deposits.
Especially when I feel fooled and read here that some others are also like that then I hardly get into "uncontrolled situations".
That is actually ne good thing, or not?
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That's what you wrote:
I just cashed out 530 euros at Casumo .
I was told in the chat that everything is fine and I don't need to verify myself.
I do not trust the roast.
Then you ask the question if you can play slots with a PayPal deposit. I'll answer that question nicely.
Haha, maybe you need the supervised play. That you tremble at a 500 euro payout the knees and you have to open WITHOUT cause a topic because you do not trust the casino, is just to throw away funny, considering what you preach here otherwise
If everyone was like you, then we would say: Just read the terms and conditions
But it's all good, we'll continue to look after you here with pleasure
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