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20th Jul. 2019, at 11:50 am CEST#41
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Danny94 wrote on 07/20/2019 10:54 AM
Did you know that stores don't have to take back products you bought in the store ?
Some do, some don't OBWHILE it's possible.... Rip-off.... or ? No, but you can read about it
Should the cashier now always say "This product can no longer return" when you shop ?
I mean, nevertheless, everything is Schwammig. Stands on no store door, that you may not return the should it not suit you
Well, the other day someone complained that he was not allowed to return the mattress because it was torn from the foil. The store argued that he had violated it and thus the mattress was unusable for the store for hygienic reasons. However, after several years of litigation, the buyer won. The store can offer their product again by simply cleaning the mattress and must refund the buyer's money.
Yes also technically it would be loosely possible for a casino to set a betting limit so that no one exceeds the MAXSPIN. Will only no casino, because they WELL and full intention would like to mislead the customer
If Online Casinos were legal, I'm pretty sure, players would also go to court and sue for their money because of so many machinations. No casino would stand up in court with their terms and conditions.
Recently we had a case here in the forum. A sunmaker customer for years. His win was taken to 50% with the justification of bonus accumulation and loss reduction. No one in the forum and also the casino could not explain what was the reason that his win was taken. Since the casino has probably right ne? And Sunmaker is still probably one of the serious
"Decisive for this, in addition to the generally applicable rule according to which the bonus provided can be withdrawn, is above all the fact that you have gained an unjustified advantage by placing bets on your accounts. This Risk minimization violates the bonus rules."
Meaning in the future. If you have somehow guessed well and were able to collect a good win, the winnings will also be collected xD
What can you do about it? Nothing, just swallow.
The decision is final after new confirmation by the responsible team. We hope that despite the negative decision for you, you will be able to show understanding for this procedure, which has been used to establish fair equality of opportunity for all game participants and agents.
Respectfully,
Your sunnyplayer Team
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20th Jul. 2019, at 12:01 pm CEST#43
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capriz wrote on 07/20/2019 at 11:54 am: Here again as proof that I'm not full of shit
"Decisive for this, apart from the generally applicable rule according to which the bonus provided can be withdrawn, is above all the fact that you have gained an unjustified advantage by placing bets on your accounts. This Risk minimization violates the bonus rules."
Meaning in the future. If you have somehow guessed well and were able to collect a good win, the winnings will also be collected xD
What can you do about it? Nothing, just swallow.
The decision is final after new confirmation by the responsible team. We hope that despite the decision being negative for you, you will be able to show understanding for this course of action, which has been taken to ensure fair equality of opportunity for all game participants and agents.
Respectfully,
Your sunnyplayer Team
hö, it's his own fault. Why does he also take Bonuses that are offered to him. He should kiss the casino's feet that he got anything at all. In addition, but everything was certainly quite accurate in the terms and conditions...
You're fighting windmills there.
Some think a T&C does not need to be read and done.
But may complain afterwards, because they have not read the terms and conditions and get here from some still right.
It is right to read the terms and conditions, but it is also right to at least point out very important points outside the terms and conditions. In DE, this is not without reason so regulated, you must know online whether you click now concludes a purchase agreement or not. A warning that you may not play over 5.00 € or 2.00 € (there are casinos if you pay with Skrill / Neteller has other rules) should therefore be in the feasible range.
It is not made purely for the reason that people fall for it that can not be denied. It is pointed out in the terms and conditions or in the bonus rules that are often once on it and not infrequently must first be opened in small print. The highlight that makes the whole thing then actually unfair is when a player 1-time accidentally turns too high (very easy to do, in some games such as Immortal Romance you should keep your hands off the space bar) and then reports to the support then you can only pray that you are not short e.g. 800 € are pocketed because you have made a mistake by mistake and was about to create the wager.
This is not fair and that has nothing to do with the fact that one is too lazy to read the terms and conditions. These are also not always as crystal clear as you describe. It was unclear for a long time whether e.g. ladder press or doubling function also counts. Also the consequences of this are unfair, why is the state not set before the bonus break (do a few casinos by the way) but the whole money directly collected? Lehrgeld, because it is in the terms and conditions? In some terms and conditions also says you can simply change actions, is it therefore also fair?
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20th Jul. 2019, at 01:01 pm CEST#45
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biqbozz77 wrote on 07/20/2019 12:01 PM
hö, it's his own fault. Also why is he taking Bonuses that are offered to him. He should kiss the casino's feet that he got anything at all. In addition, but everything was certainly quite accurate in the terms and conditions...
For it is decisive apart from the generally valid rule, according to which the made available bonus can be taken back.
Weiste, must imagine times. Since the casino claims or invokes their right to take back a BONUS again. Imagine that you go to a store, buy a vase with 5€ voucher and afterwards they knock on your door and say, HEY GIVE US the 5€ back xD
Unfortunately, from the sentence is also not recognizable that if a casino has the right to take back a bonus after the fact also thus at the same time the right to collect the winnings made from it? -> but since we are probably like upala says too stupid to read through the terms and conditions
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20th Jul. 2019, at 01:55 pm CEST#46
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Danny94 wrote on 07/20/2019 10:54 AM
And who needs ne "parental control" for the Max bet, must be soon senile
You already know the rules by heart. Do you play with bonus >
- Max 50 cents per line
- Max 5 euro per spin
Oh, it's that simple.
Well, then I can only hope for you that you never reach a large 4-5 digit sum with bonus, and then something presses on the keyboard at a slot that triggers MAX BET by spacebar.... 1 spin bumms win is collected.
50Cent/5Euro is also nonsense.
Webby Slot - just to give 1 example - has max Bet 1 Euro......
Other casinos have 3 Euro Max Bet...
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20th Jul. 2019, at 03:38 pm CEST#47
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Also happens well with the mouse, Max-Bet is almost always right next to the spin button.
But here, too, it's your own fault, according to the experts. You just have to be careful....
You're fighting windmills there.
Some think a T&C does not need to be read and done.
But may complain afterwards, because they have not read the terms and conditions and get here from some still right.
So I think here you should clearly distinguish between first-time players, so newbies and, I say now times, "us".
I remember exactly my first time. Sure, I only had to pay one Euro, but I got 20 or so to play. It was just a pastime for me. Sorry, no one, but really no one, when he spontaneously accepts such an offer, even begins to think about the fact that there could be rules that forbid you to play this or that game, to bet more than 5 euros per spin or so much per betting line. DAMN IT,. A normal person doesn't know what a crappy betting line is. EIGENTLICH IST and even less which slot has how many of them. And he doesn't want that at all, he wants to play ne.Runde. Fun and not be careful not to do anything wrong
On this first day, the fact that before I actually get the won 300 euros, I still have to convert the received bonus amount x times, was so far away that I did not want to believe it at first and there already talked about "screwing people" and "rip-off". And that's exactly what it was and still is today.
You are all so caught up in your f**king bubble that you really think a normal non-gambling and casino-experienced person should consider such things and read the terms and conditions forever before playing a small game? You guys are crazy. For you, all these pranks have become so normal that you don't even ask yourselves how insane these requirements are. 50x wagering to receive an amount equal to the original bonus amount as a max cashout.
Sorry, but if you can not even put yourself in a person who just does not assume that a large company in their terms and conditions loud things in it has, which one does not only not consider as a normal person,
BUT, EVEN IF YOU READ THEM ON YOUR FIRST VISIT TO AN OC, YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND THEIR REAL MEANING AND THE SCOPE OF SOME DETAILS,
then I can only say, I'm sorry, you live in a sad world.... For you, such business behavior has become commonplace and you therefore consider it normal. If you would try to explain something like this to outsiders, you would perhaps notice their irritated looks, that this is not quite normal in all social classes...
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20th Jul. 2019, at 03:55 pm CEST#49
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He realizes himself that what he writes does not make any sense, but he just wants to let the overintelligent one hang out by blaming other players because they do not want to read through the x pages of the Bonus terms and conditions.
We have him I think also enough examples called, which also despite the explanations in the terms and conditions certain things have been formulated so, which always leaves the casino in the right. So far, however, he has deliberately not commented on this
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Zwischenmeister wrote on 07/20/2019 at 15:42
So I think there should be a clear distinction here between first-timers, i.e. newbies, and, I'll say, "us".
I remember exactly my first time. Sure, I only had to pay one Euro, but I got 20 or so to play. It was just a pastime for me. Sorry, no one, but really no one, when he spontaneously accepts such an offer, even begins to think about the fact that there could be rules that forbid you to play this or that game, to bet more than 5 euros per spin or so much per betting line. DAMN IT,. A normal person doesn't know what a crappy betting line is. EIGENTLICH IST and even less which slot has how many of them. And he doesn't want that at all, he wants to play ne.Runde. Fun and not be careful not to do anything wrong
On this first day, the fact that before I actually get the won 300 euros, I still have to convert the received bonus amount x times, was so far away that I did not want to believe it at first and there already talked about "screwing people" and "rip-off". And that's exactly what it was and still is today.
You are all so caught up in your f**king bubble that you really think a normal non-gambling and casino-experienced person should consider such things and read the terms and conditions forever before playing a small game? You guys are crazy. For you, all these pranks have become so normal that you don't even ask yourselves how insane these requirements are. 50x wagering to receive an amount equal to the original bonus amount as a max cashout.
Sorry, but if you can not even put yourself in a person who just does not assume that a large company in their terms and conditions loud things in it has, which one as a normal person not only does not take into account,
BUT, EVEN IF YOU READ THEM ON YOUR FIRST VISIT TO AN OC, YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND THEIR REAL MEANING AND THE SCOPE OF SOME DETAILS,
then I can only say, I'm sorry, you live in a sad world.... For you, such business behavior has become commonplace and you therefore consider it normal. If you would try to explain something like this to outsiders, you might notice their irritated looks, that this is not normal in all walks of life...
Super to the point brought!
And it is getting better and better in some casinos. When claiming the bonus, a maximum of (even after conversion)
1000€ or 3 times the Deposit amount refunded. 300 listed games, which one may NOT play, and and.
But everything is quite normal.
As he said, just still crazy.
But there you are talking against a wall!
That is no longer normal thinking.
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Well, the other day someone complained that he was not allowed to return the mattress because it was torn from the foil. The store argued that he had violated it and thus the mattress was unusable for the store for hygienic reasons. However, after several years of litigation, the buyer won. The store can offer their product again by simply cleaning the mattress and must refund the buyer's money.
Yes also technically it would be loosely possible for a casino to set a betting limit so that no one exceeds the MAXSPIN. Will only no casino, because they WELL and full intention would like to mislead the customer
If Online Casinos were legal, I'm pretty sure, players would also go to court and sue for their money because of so many machinations. No casino would stand up in court with their terms and conditions.
Recently we had a case here in the forum. A sunmaker customer for years. His win was taken to 50% with the justification of bonus accumulation and loss reduction. No one in the forum and also the casino could not explain what was the reason that his win was taken. Since the casino has probably right ne? And Sunmaker is still probably one of the serious
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https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/casinobeschwerden/sunnyplayer/sunnyplayer-verweigert-vollstandige-auszahlung-bonus-gewinne-storniert-84941/#p85097
Quoting sunnyplayer:
Dear Mr. K.,
"Decisive for this, in addition to the generally applicable rule according to which the bonus provided can be withdrawn, is above all the fact that you have gained an unjustified advantage by placing bets on your accounts. This Risk minimization violates the bonus rules."
Meaning in the future. If you have somehow guessed well and were able to collect a good win, the winnings will also be collected xD
What can you do about it? Nothing, just swallow.
The decision is final after new confirmation by the responsible team. We hope that despite the negative decision for you, you will be able to show understanding for this procedure, which has been used to establish fair equality of opportunity for all game participants and agents.
Respectfully,
Your sunnyplayer Team
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hö, it's his own fault. Why does he also take Bonuses that are offered to him. He should kiss the casino's feet that he got anything at all. In addition, but everything was certainly quite accurate in the terms and conditions...
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It is right to read the terms and conditions, but it is also right to at least point out very important points outside the terms and conditions. In DE, this is not without reason so regulated, you must know online whether you click now concludes a purchase agreement or not. A warning that you may not play over 5.00 € or 2.00 € (there are casinos if you pay with Skrill / Neteller has other rules) should therefore be in the feasible range.
It is not made purely for the reason that people fall for it that can not be denied. It is pointed out in the terms and conditions or in the bonus rules that are often once on it and not infrequently must first be opened in small print. The highlight that makes the whole thing then actually unfair is when a player 1-time accidentally turns too high (very easy to do, in some games such as Immortal Romance you should keep your hands off the space bar) and then reports to the support then you can only pray that you are not short e.g. 800 € are pocketed because you have made a mistake by mistake and was about to create the wager.
This is not fair and that has nothing to do with the fact that one is too lazy to read the terms and conditions. These are also not always as crystal clear as you describe. It was unclear for a long time whether e.g. ladder press or doubling function also counts. Also the consequences of this are unfair, why is the state not set before the bonus break (do a few casinos by the way) but the whole money directly collected? Lehrgeld, because it is in the terms and conditions? In some terms and conditions also says you can simply change actions, is it therefore also fair?
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For it is decisive apart from the generally valid rule, according to which the made available bonus can be taken back.
Weiste, must imagine times. Since the casino claims or invokes their right to take back a BONUS again. Imagine that you go to a store, buy a vase with 5€ voucher and afterwards they knock on your door and say, HEY GIVE US the 5€ back xD
Unfortunately, from the sentence is also not recognizable that if a casino has the right to take back a bonus after the fact also thus at the same time the right to collect the winnings made from it? -> but since we are probably like upala says too stupid to read through the terms and conditions
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Oh, it's that simple.
Well, then I can only hope for you that you never reach a large 4-5 digit sum with bonus, and then something presses on the keyboard at a slot that triggers MAX BET by spacebar.... 1 spin bumms win is collected.
50Cent/5Euro is also nonsense.
Webby Slot - just to give 1 example - has max Bet 1 Euro......
Other casinos have 3 Euro Max Bet...
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But here, too, it's your own fault, according to the experts. You just have to be careful....
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So I think here you should clearly distinguish between first-time players, so newbies and, I say now times, "us".
I remember exactly my first time. Sure, I only had to pay one Euro, but I got 20 or so to play. It was just a pastime for me. Sorry, no one, but really no one, when he spontaneously accepts such an offer, even begins to think about the fact that there could be rules that forbid you to play this or that game, to bet more than 5 euros per spin or so much per betting line. DAMN IT,. A normal person doesn't know what a crappy betting line is. EIGENTLICH IST and even less which slot has how many of them. And he doesn't want that at all, he wants to play ne.Runde. Fun and not be careful not to do anything wrong
On this first day, the fact that before I actually get the won 300 euros, I still have to convert the received bonus amount x times, was so far away that I did not want to believe it at first and there already talked about "screwing people" and "rip-off". And that's exactly what it was and still is today.
You are all so caught up in your f**king bubble that you really think a normal non-gambling and casino-experienced person should consider such things and read the terms and conditions forever before playing a small game? You guys are crazy. For you, all these pranks have become so normal that you don't even ask yourselves how insane these requirements are. 50x wagering to receive an amount equal to the original bonus amount as a max cashout.
Sorry, but if you can not even put yourself in a person who just does not assume that a large company in their terms and conditions loud things in it has, which one does not only not consider as a normal person,
BUT, EVEN IF YOU READ THEM ON YOUR FIRST VISIT TO AN OC, YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND THEIR REAL MEANING AND THE SCOPE OF SOME DETAILS,
then I can only say, I'm sorry, you live in a sad world.... For you, such business behavior has become commonplace and you therefore consider it normal. If you would try to explain something like this to outsiders, you would perhaps notice their irritated looks, that this is not quite normal in all social classes...
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We have him I think also enough examples called, which also despite the explanations in the terms and conditions certain things have been formulated so, which always leaves the casino in the right. So far, however, he has deliberately not commented on this
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Super to the point brought!
And it is getting better and better in some casinos. When claiming the bonus, a maximum of (even after conversion)
1000€ or 3 times the Deposit amount refunded. 300 listed games, which one may NOT play, and and.
But everything is quite normal.
As he said, just still crazy.
But there you are talking against a wall!
That is no longer normal thinking.
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