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Online Casinos in general: Arrogant attitude of many players

Topic created on 14th Jul. 2019 | Page: 1 of 7 | Answers: 60 | Views: 13,533
Anonym

Arrogant attitude of many players

14th Jul. 2019, at 10:04 pm CEST#1
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I'm writing this post because I've been watching other players being taken for fools for a while now and being blamed for a lot of things they can't really do anything about.

I don't know what happened here in this forum, but everywhere they shit on Player protection, someone is declared stupid because he finds irregularities.

I mean what do players rely on? Who seriously independently controls Online Casinos?
With Slot machines you at least have the chance to see if something is being manipulated, but with online casinos? Are we supposed to trust the mga? How is this association financed?



The whole non-transparent bonus regulations lead to players losing their wins and the mga also points out that you should read the agbs, which are pages long and sometimes so badly translated that you don't understand anything yourself.

Then there are again the members here, who still write you self blame.

I am really stunned about how the whole online casino industry is developing and nobody wants to regulate it here. It is still a gray area in Germany. Wins can be frozen simply by stating that they are slot winnings.

I am curious about your reaction

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Anonym

Arrogant attitude of many players

14th Jul. 2019, at 10:12 pm CEST#2
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Every day new players sign up to complain about their wins being frozen. And I don't even want to speculate about the number of players who have their winnings taken away.
How can you stand by and watch Online Casinos cheat online players from top to bottom. It is technically no problem to set the spin only to the allowed max bet amount...

On the other hand we have bwin which has laggs on slots 26 days a month saying internal error.I always thought when I press spin my win is already fixed. Why does it come. This error message, my spin bet is credited again. Why does the support not respond to the various complaints of the players. Why no authority controls what is going on. This is just an example...

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Crazy4U
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Arrogant attitude of many players

14th Jul. 2019, at 10:22 pm CEST#3
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Hm, I'll get started

Basically, I'm with you, you should always be careful and skeptical

However, we know more or less all, on what we get involved. And that, apart from maybe BigHits like a Jackpot or similar, the casinos will collect our money in the long run. If you do not overdo it (is not addicted, so pathologically addicted), then the luck and bad luck probably holds the balance, UNLESS manipulated.

Funny feelings I have here and there sometimes, because of the game starts at 2 Scatters, without showing the last roller out of nowhere just new. Since I make but immediately short process and let me delete the casino, because they could not give me an explanation. It came not even an apology or a technical error, only the operator have reported, I have won no FS. There I am then again with you: I must then just believe it.

In the end you will always find 2 'fronts', some agree with you (we all play anyway) others argue the same: why do you play then?

As far as the bonus conditions are concerned, I only let this apply to beginners who have not read along here before. Whereby I assume that beginners do not make such high spins.

Everything else is in principle 'common knowledge' and you also do not know whether the users here always tell the truth.

Moreover, this applies to any contract, if you are the terms and conditions are quite important, the so-called 'fine print'. Even the police say: ignorance is no excuse.

Last but not least: the one who has the damage does not have to take care of the mockery.

Even the arrogant players will have their experiences at some point.

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Anonym

Arrogant attitude of many players

14th Jul. 2019, at 10:30 pm CEST#4
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I certainly don't want to defend players who create two accounts, etc. There are probably cases where players are also clearly at fault. However, it is with new registrations, especially here, who violate bonus conditions. But I don't really want to discuss this subtopic, so I'll leave it at that.

As for the argument, why you play there, if you assume fraud, then I would like to counter that we are mentally in a vicious circle
Chasing looses. Personally, for example, I have deposited at bwin several 10k so far. And even though I know that there are irregularities at the slots I play and the support does not respond I butter there anyway geld purely because I think to myself that the casino should give my bet. The casinos take advantage of this without being controlled by any authorities at all.
With a spielo you still have to make sure that the machines are not manipulated. But online slots supposedly can not be manipulated. Who believes

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b****6

Arrogant attitude of many players

14th Jul. 2019, at 10:34 pm CEST#5
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You are completely right in what you say. Consequently, however, you would also have to log off here. Whether you think GJ is
for good or bad, GJ works together with casinos, and thus promotes many a Gambling addiction or
triggers them. So every cog meshes with the next

No one knows what the casinos in Malta are doing, how they are controlled, etc., and the forum here also makes its contribution by being part of the machine
Contribution by being part of the machinery. A lottery doesn't happen by chance, does it?

Working in a kiosk selling cigarettes is similar. Of course, you can't help it if someone smokes,
but you're still a wheel of the whole thing.

That from above down wonders me also desöfteren. I don't know what to be proud of. As you say, on it,
that you managed to write 1500 posts in a year, proving that you hardly have a life?

Of course, casinos are out to make the smallest of mistakes. That's part of the business model in my opinion. Cutting players' wins
to cancel players' winnings because they have broken the rules will be a not insignificant part of the turnover.
Unfortunately, the casinos here also find partial understanding for this unethical business practice a la too stupid to read the terms and conditions.

The best example in my opinion is the consistent opinion that a casino can not intervene in the game
can. No one here has been to an "online casino", but almost everyone claims they have. How does something like this happen? Is only one example of
many, but there discussing does not bring much. Many here have a gambling problem, and close their eyes to what might be possible
possible
The other day someone wrote here: if Manipulation is made so easy, it would have to go with the devil, if everything would be clean
if everything would be clean. The best conditions are present: far away (Malta), MGA is now also not so prall, and what with other
Agreements with sloth manufacturers, nobody knows. But since everyone here says that it is not possible for the casino to intervene, this is probably true
probably so true. come all from the industry!

Well then wait for the shitstorm......


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Crazy4U
Amateur

Arrogant attitude of many players

14th Jul. 2019, at 10:37 pm CEST#6
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Capriz, I understand you! I'm just showing you how the 'arrogant' players argue and the arguments are not to be dismissed out of hand.

Chasing looses is also my big problem. But you should know, the casino is not a Deposit, where you deposit several 10K and then win the sum back after 3 years.

It is rather so that you fill the Pot from which then 1000 others are happy with 100 euros win.

I don't know any better, but it only helps to be aware of this over and over again. Otherwise you will get rid of another 10K, then rather change to more reputable casinos that also have enough players to pay out such sums easily.

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upola
Legend

Arrogant attitude of many players

15th Jul. 2019, at 09:21 am CEST#7
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I think it's cheeky to call players arrogant just because they have their own opinion.
We are not a legal forum here.

It is always said that a casino should adhere to its terms and conditions.If the casino does it but, the whining is great.It is not too much to ask that you read the conditions completely, it's all mature players.Then many things would not happen at all.Look at the thread where one deletes his bonus at energycasno and then wondered that his wins are gone.This is in the conditions.Surely there are cases where the player can not for it.
And the users who complain, also do not always tell the truth immediately

I have also been in the toilet, and why, because I have not read the conditions.And should I now blame the casino and represent me as a victim.This is of course the easiest.
There are of course casinos that are unseriös, but no AROGANTER player will talk against it.

Whether the casinos cheat, I do not know.it could not yet bring a proof for it.
But if I am of the opinion that is cheated, I stop gambling.

I will certainly not right every user who complains.I have learned that you have to stand up for his mistakes.Even if I swim against the current...I can live with it.

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Kleinkariert
Expert

Arrogant attitude of many players

15th Jul. 2019, at 09:50 am CEST#8
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If Germany would regulate, I don't know if it would be better. The SH license is not an achievement to be proud of, the main advantage would be the absolute legal security. The MGA on the other hand is in my eyes at least better than the SH license, but somewhat dusty and probably also overloaded. Especially the slow response speed and the fact that the arbitration was mostly outsourced (= handed over to others) indicates this.

In any case, you are well advised to set a limit and not to try to get anything at all, because from then on it quickly becomes expensive. And cheating is not insofar as the RTP is correct, but as for the chances of winning there is at least visually strongly deceived. Many players are often not aware of the Risk they take and when it is already too late.

The bonus rules should really be regulated, but it is better to tax no Deposit offers for player protection. Since one has set the wrong preferences, I think.

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Anonym

Arrogant attitude of many players

15th Jul. 2019, at 11:15 am CEST#9
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@smallpicture

You really have to shake your head at how some users like upola even come to the defense of the bonus conditions, which have long since had to be revised. This is not even worth a discussion that the casinos with their bonus conditions rip off players. That's a fact and the more people sign up here whose wins are raked in, you should finally take action against it



Whether the casinos cheat, I do not know it.It could not yet bring a proof.

But if I think that they are cheating, I stop gambling.


It's similar to the canabis trade. It's kind of allowed to smoke, but you can't possess the weed.
As someone who is addicted, which I count over 90% of the players here with different levels, you can't expect rational thinking regarding gambling/consumption.

I don't stop smoking or eating sweets because I know it increases my Risk of cancer. The same is true with gambling. The previous regulations, controls are simply pro online casino industry aligned and that celebrate here still users like you


What are we talking about?

-Wins are paid out with delay -> stalling tactics
-i can Deposit several thousand euros without being asked for Verification data, but in contrast, if I want to withdraw 50€, my data is requested and the verification process takes days to complete
-There was a user who once accidentally got over 5€ MAx bet, where he didn't even win anything. His entire win of over several thousand euros were simply canceled, although he has otherwise kept to the bonus rules

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upola
Legend

Arrogant attitude of many players

15th Jul. 2019, at 11:26 am CEST#10
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I don't free anything, what are you talking about for a nonsense.
You must not only read my text but also understand.

But you're right, it is not necessary to discuss with you.
Tell every user what he is but for a poor victim.

I do not.I will continue to tell the users if they made a mistake, then they watch out next time.

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