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Online Casinos in general: amv reporting / tax office / casino - win 30000€? (Page 2)

Topic created on 12th Dec. 2019 | Page: 2 of 3 | Answers: 27 | Views: 14,124
Felixrl
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amv reporting / tax office / casino - win 30000€?

12th Dec. 2019, at 05:38 pm CET#11
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MarcT22186 wrote on 12/12/2019 at 17:01
This is sooo unbelievable bullshit! If there is even a suspicion that you COULD earn your living with whatever kind of gambling, you always have to declare it through a tax advisor, it doesn't matter how much EZ and AZ it is. With such sums it is your DUTY to declare it and claim it back later.
When I read this huge BS here always about because does not fall or must the bettor for worry, I wonder seriously where "The Brain" Matthias and Co. remains... Oh I forgot, did sit on Malta and have as much idea of German laws, as the Pope from f**king! 😂😂😂👏👏👏👏

As Dutch78 says, as a customer you are NOT obliged to pay taxes on betting winnings, the operator already does that. The point at which I have to pay taxes because I earn my living with it ("being self-employed") depends a) on whether I regularly bring in such high wins and b) whether they make up at least half of my income. The only exception is if I have no profession/no income besides betting. Then you are right, then I have to declare the wins to the tax office.

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MollyPoppy
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amv reporting / tax office / casino - win 30000€?

12th Dec. 2019, at 07:17 pm CET#12
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Felixrl wrote on 12/12/2019 at 17:38
As Dutch78 says, as a customer you are NOT obliged to pay taxes on betting winnings, the operator already does that. The point at which I have to pay taxes because I use it to earn a living ("being self-employed") depends on a) whether I regularly earn such high wins and b) whether they make up at least half of my income. The only exception is if I have no profession/no income besides betting. Then you are right, then I have to declare the wins to the tax office.

ok thanks and how does it look now with me then ? I am 19, just finished school and looking for training, accordingly no income or otherwise.
Should I now just shut up and wait until what should flutter in or who give notice?

If really no one here can / would like to give me a concrete answer, I would then in the coming days just pay any 1 type of the thematic knows who then helps me further.

trz many thanks for your contributions


lg

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gamble1
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amv reporting / tax office / casino - win 30000€?

13th Dec. 2019, at 02:31 am CET#13
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MollyPoppy wrote on 12/12/2019 at 19:17
ok thanks and how does it look now with me then ? I'm 19, just finished school and looking for training, accordingly no income or anything.
Should I now just shut up and wait until what should flutter purely or who give notice ?

If really no one here can / would like to give me a concrete answer, I would then in the coming days just pay any 1 type of the thematic knows who then helps me further.

trz many thanks for your contributions


lg

So that with the obligation to report has to do on the one hand with the amount and on the other hand with the time

Everything from. 12.500 € must be reported - This means but only that you call the number given there you end up at the Bundesbank and report as a private person completely anonymous the amount received You will ask no one there for the name

Important is the deliberate splitting of amounts to circumvent the obligation to report (eg 20,000 € on 2x 10,000 € split) is not welcome and not allowed!

Let's come to the time factor, assuming you have 20.000 € and pay out 10.000 € now and in 2 months another 10.000 €, no one can give you a hard time because then there is no suspicion that would justify a conscious evasion

Of course I can not give you 100% advice but only tips

So you are only 19 and have no income ? How do you manage to move 1.5k, 2k etc. back and forth ? Savings ?

I give you the Tip be careful gambling is heartless knows no compassion and no mercy now it runs vill you make plus vill something minus and hold you all in all quite well but that can change from now to immediately

Should you gamble e.g. with savings set yourself a limit what you are willing to lose and leave it at that should it be gone otherwise you get faster into a vicious circle just that you are currently looking for a job

The temptation is there I know from my own experience

So enough moral apostle played

I hope I could help you a little




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MollyPoppy
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amv reporting / tax office / casino - win 30000€?

13th Dec. 2019, at 01:12 pm CET#14
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gamble1 wrote on 12/13/2019 02:31 PM
So that with the obligation to report has to do with the amount on the one hand and on the other hand with the time

Everything from. 12.500 € must be reported - This means but only that you call the number given there you end up at the Bundesbank and report as a private person completely anonymous the amount received You will ask no one there for the name

Important is the deliberate splitting of amounts to circumvent the obligation to report (eg 20,000 € on 2x 10,000 € split) is not welcome and not allowed!

Let's come to the time factor, assuming you have 20.000 € and pay out 10.000 € now and in 2 months another 10.000 €, no one can give you a hard time because then there is no suspicion that would justify a conscious evasion

Of course I can not give you 100% advice but only tips

So you are only 19 and have no income ? How do you manage to move 1.5k, 2k etc. back and forth ? Savings ?

I give you the Tip be careful gambling is heartless knows no compassion and no mercy now it runs vill you make plus vill something minus and hold you all in all quite well but that can change from now to immediately

Should you gamble e.g. with savings set yourself a limit what you are willing to lose and leave it at that should it be gone otherwise you get faster into a vicious circle just that you are currently looking for a job

The temptation is there I know from my own experience

So enough moral apostle played

I hope I could help you a little






Thank you for your effort and time to answer.
Yes, a bit gambled with the savings of my parents and Blackjack has not stopped giving for weeks, whatever resulted in this back and forth of geldeingänge.
Starting capital was just under 1000€ which has now become 20 000 €.
But I must also confess that I have gambled the last few days like 1 maniac and have played stakes that I could never ever afford and should rather pay times driver's license (always so 500-1k stake at BJ)
fast money goes fast, so now rather stop, haste right.

ps. will now no longer play and save the money.

Greetings

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MollyPoppy
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amv reporting / tax office / casino - win 30000€?

13th Dec. 2019, at 01:16 pm CET#15
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see.

MollyPoppy

MollyPoppy


alone that was yesterday.
there you lose / win 5000€ within minutes, so now I decided to stop before it's too late and all the win is gone again

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PaYGaME
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amv reporting / tax office / casino - win 30000€?

13th Dec. 2019, at 11:30 pm CET#16
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mhhh strange...

multiple 2x same time same amount...

so you do such things and that with the savings (1000,-) from the parents?!?, on your own account....

Gambling like a HighRoller, looking for an apprentice place, time without end haste yes... no, no such a thing but does not belong!

then worry about tax office and ect. and co. because of AMV, constant deposits and withdrawals larger amounts from the current account...

Deposits - withdrawals - deposits via Giro also still savings from parents.... which has also become even more!?

but not the 20K gambled away?? from the parents on their account? which would explain the bet amount and the worries about the tax office ect.

well anyway hopefully it is as you write it here and you leave it at that and Spielst no more...

... ... ... ... ... ..

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G****e

amv reporting / tax office / casino - win 30000€?

13th Dec. 2019, at 11:47 pm CET#17
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Pay out 10k now and if the bank asks you say sports betting. Set limit to 1 euro in the casino and wait 2 months then pay out the remaining 10k. So everything should go well over the stage 😁 Congratulations on the win 💪

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MollyPoppy
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amv reporting / tax office / casino - win 30000€?

14th Dec. 2019, at 07:11 pm CET#18
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PaYGaME wrote on 12/13/2019 at 11:30 pm

mhhh strange...

multiple 2x same time same amount...

so you do such things and that with the savings (1000,-) from the parents?!?, on your own account....

Gambling like a HighRoller, looking for an apprentice place, time without end haste yes... no, no such a thing but does not belong!

then worry about tax office and ect. and co. because of AMV, constant deposits and withdrawals larger amounts from the current account...

Deposits - withdrawals - deposits via Giro also still savings from parents.... which has also become even more!?

but not the 20K gambled away?? from the parents on their account? which would explain the bet amount and the worries about the tax office ect.

well anyway hopefully it is as you write it here and you leave it at that and Spielst no longer...

... ... ... ... ... ..

already too late, gambled it all away.
even the money from my parents, the 12k on the account I had access to omg, I would have just stopped I was too greedy

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G****e

amv reporting / tax office / casino - win 30000€?

14th Dec. 2019, at 07:30 pm CET#19
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MollyPoppy wrote on 12/14/2019 at 7:11 pm
already too late, gambled it all away.
also the money from my parents, the 12k on the account I had access to omg, I would have just stopped I was too greedy

Oha. yes such a lucky streak does not always last. Hope you get this done somehow 😃

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gamble1
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amv reporting / tax office / casino - win 30000€?

16th Dec. 2019, at 02:12 am CET#20
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MollyPoppy wrote on 12/14/2019 at 7:11 pm
already too late, gambled it all away.
also the money from my parents, the 12k on the account I had access to omg, I would have just stopped I was too greedy

This is now of course the point that was foreseeable

I think you needed that to realize that it doesn't only go upwards

As already mentioned I have made the same mistake but will certainly not do it again

Talk to your parents any decision you make now could be negative gambling will not get you that high again and betting on it will ruin you with high probability

Talking is better then they can help you everyone messes up sometimes

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