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Online Casinos in general: Almost 2000€ deposit since 15.10. - Money back? (Page 3)

Topic created on 30th Oct. 2020 | Page: 3 of 3 | Answers: 28 | Views: 6,197
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Almost 2000€ deposit since 15.10. - Money back?

30th Oct. 2020, at 12:55 pm CET#23
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Xestery wrote on 30.10.2020 at 09:46: There is always talk of chance, etc., whether you win or not. But I have a question of understanding. At some point, every casino starts fresh. The operator first invests X amount, let's assume 200,000 euros. Then the people start to play. Now it MAY not happen that someone or even several people win more than this cash Deposit at once, in extreme cases it could happen that someone wins 250,000 euros. The operator would not have this money. And that the simply trust in good luck I can not imagine.
So there must be a barrier built in somewhere, so that this can not happen or how do you see it?

that's exactly why licenses are distributed. Licensing requirements also include, for example, reserves in the amount of X, so that even high wins can be paid out with a high degree of certainty. If you don't meet the requirements, you don't get a license and are therefore not allowed to participate in the market

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Gewinner
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Almost 2000€ deposit since 15.10. - Money back?

30th Oct. 2020, at 01:13 pm CET#24
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Metallica_88 wrote on 10/30/2020 at 12:30 PM

because of such suchtis like you we can no longer gamble live tables and also have to annoy us with 1000 max bet and since 2018 also no longer Deposit with PayPal and and.... People leave that look for you another hobby! Now he wants his Taui back because he thinks that Betsson has done something illegal! That's just like if you ordered from his Dealer 1 kilo of coke it then within 1 week squanders and Ihm then says hä wait a minute I want my money back you have done something illegal!

I always ask myself with such chargeback questions what would be going on here if he could pay out and the casino books the payout back because of illegal gambling.

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Taybone
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Almost 2000€ deposit since 15.10. - Money back?

30th Oct. 2020, at 01:18 pm CET#25
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Winner wrote on 10/30/2020 at 1:13 pm
I always wonder with chargeback questions like this what would be going on here if he was able to cash out and the casino books the cashout back due to illigal gambling.[emj_11

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Basically any gambler could get away with this. Only the casinos and their supporters or employees not

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DaseR92
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Almost 2000€ deposit since 15.10. - Money back?

30th Oct. 2020, at 03:04 pm CET#26
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Xestery wrote on 30.10.2020 at 09:46: There is always talk of chance, etc., whether you win or not. But I have a question of understanding. At some point, every casino starts fresh. The operator first invests X amount, let's assume 200,000 euros. Then the people start to play. Now it MAY not happen that someone or even several people win more than this cash Deposit at once, in extreme cases it could happen that someone wins 250,000 euros. The operator would not have this money. And that the simply trust in good luck I can not imagine.
So there must be a barrier built in somewhere, so that this can not happen or how do you see it?

That is why most casinos are not eigeständig. Most of them join together in groups of companies, presumably also to guarantee liquidity.

I don't have any links unfortunately, however the case you mentioned already existed. Online casino with quite little equity (up to 500,000 €) and then in the first weeks / months went bankrupt because the players had won too much.

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joker6626

Almost 2000€ deposit since 15.10. - Money back?

30th Oct. 2020, at 03:20 pm CET#27
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Metallica_88 wrote on 10/30/2020 at 12:30 PM

because of such suchtis like you we can no longer gamble live tables and also have to annoy us with 1000 max bet and since 2018 also no longer Deposit with PayPal and and.... People leave that look for you another hobby! Now he wants his Taui back because he thinks that Betsson has done something illegal! That's just like if you ordered from his Dealer 1 kilo of coke it then within 1 week squandered and him then says hä wait a minute I want my money back you have done something illegal!

Sorry to disappoint you but I am not an addict. I play maybe once a month and just because someone has other financial possibilities and 2000 Euro is a lot of money in your eyes, doesn't mean that someone is an addict
Furthermore, I have stressed several times that I do not care about the money and I am simply interested in the legal issue. I have never asked for money back in any casino.

I think if you want to find a "culprit" for the whole thing, you should turn to "Knossi", who brought the whole gambling issue to the big stage through his streams and drew the attention of the authorities to himself or the issue. Good luck!

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M****8

Almost 2000€ deposit since 15.10. - Money back?

30th Oct. 2020, at 03:33 pm CET#28
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joker6626 wrote on 10/30/2020 at 3:20 pm
Sorry to disappoint you but I am not an addict. Play maybe once a month and just because someone has other financial possibilities and 2000 Euro is a lot of money in your eyes, doesn't mean that someone is an addict
Furthermore, I have stressed several times that I do not care about the money and I am simply interested in the legal issue. I have never asked for money back in any casino.

I think if you want to find a "culprit" for the whole thing, you should turn to "Knossi", who brought the whole gambling issue to the big stage through his streams and drew the attention of the authorities to himself or the issue. Good luck!

1. Knossi does not open a thread how he can get his Tauis after he and Sido have spent 5k at Wunderino.


2. If you do not care why do you ask for your thousand be happy that you can Deposit more than 1000 euros?
Be happy that at least now everything is still the same at Betsson, you do not mind the money and apparently you do not care either
so is nice that you can deposit more!

3. 2k is not a lot of money for me if you read my feedback correctly, you would understand that I'm even annoyed because maxbet 1000 er.I have before 15.10. every month easily 2-3 K deposited without sounding arrogant because I 'can afford it.

4. Stop finding loopholes and come to terms with the fact that you lost 2k! Why do you want the Taui back from Betsson? Do you think it's ok that Betsson should give you back the money you gambled without a bad conscience! Did someone threaten you, were you pressured by some Albanian gambling mafiosi to deposit 2K? I hope not, right?

And last but not least: Exactly because of such people like you were taken to 80 percent Visa/Mastercard deposits out just like PayPal!
Because people always came up with the idea oh god I spent 1000 euros I'll get it back from Paypal ätschi bätsch.

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Almost 2000€ deposit since 15.10. - Money back?

30th Oct. 2020, at 03:33 pm CET#29
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Taybone wrote on 30.10.2020 at 09:06
Is of course all bullshit with new customer PiPaPo. The casino only thinks about their profit and tries to tell fairy tales. If you look at Betsson under licenses, then you quickly notice that the licenses on Malta, GB, Sweden have but not for DE. Therefore you can not file a complaint to report a violation. I also wonder how it was possible to Deposit more than 1000 Euro
In your place I would file a complaint, European complaint procedure.

Only the lawsuit would be shot down on whatever basis because 1. for the EU the 1000 € limits do not apply and 2. DE does not even have something like a law on which the whole thing is based

dear TE currently everything is roughly comparable to I know someone who knows someone who knows another who says if we comply with the we get with higher probability a DE license when it is so far

Whether it remains in the end so or is true is still so long to question until a law comes where everything covers only what is in the end there is valid and then that would also be quite possible in such a case the money back to demand

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Christian1337
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Almost 2000€ deposit since 15.10. - Money back?

30th Oct. 2020, at 11:45 pm CET#31
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To the TE: it is as the previous speakers say (except for Catherine). At the moment, nothing has been decided yet. The casinos are "voluntarily" complying with the requirements in the hope that they will have a better chance of obtaining a license next year. Legally, however, nothing is yet regulated, so that a lawsuit at this point in time is no different from a lawsuit from 3 months ago (where the 1000 max Deposit did not yet exist).

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Christian1337
Experienced

Almost 2000€ deposit since 15.10. - Money back?

30th Oct. 2020, at 11:47 pm CET#32
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