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Online Casinos in general: After Big Win account cancellation of the VR Bank

Topic created on 29th Apr. 2020 | Page: 1 of 1 | Answers: 9 | Views: 4,340
PS918

After Big Win account cancellation of the VR Bank

29th Apr. 2020, at 02:00 pm CEST#1
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Hello everyone,

I have been reading the forum for some time now and have decided to register because I am currently in a stupid situation and am hoping for your advice / experiences.
About 4 weeks ago I won 20k at Pokerstars in the online casino.
Since I have read here quite often that it can come with larger payouts to problems, I decided to withdraw every week about 5000€. After the third withdrawal my advisor called me and asked where the money came from. I told her from a larger sports betting win. She even said on the phone 'oh there you have been lucky'. When I asked if that was reported anywhere or if I should submit proof, she answered no and said she would just note it here.
She even asked me if we wanted to change my P-Konto to a normal account, because there was no active garnishment on the account since the change (about 2 years ago). I had set this up at the time because I had some debts and was afraid that my entire account would be garnished. In the meantime, however, I have settled all debts and was even thinking about converting the account back to a normal one.
At that time I thought to myself, super better it cannot run. Wrong thought...
Yesterday I received a registered letter in my mailbox with the ordinary termination of my account as of 23.06.2020.
I currently still have full access to my account. Yesterday even the last 5000€ were transferred. I immediately went to the bank counter and paid out the money. This also worked without any problems. What do you think I have to fear? One reads here frequently of suspicion on money laundering, house searches etc.. What surprises me is that the VR Bank did not freeze my account, but cancelled it directly. Do you think they will pass on the case? I mean, if they suspected anything illegal, they would have blocked the account directly, right?
Of course my other problem is that I now need a new account. I have an appointment tomorrow at 12 o'clock at the Sparkasse to open an account. Should I tell them directly that VR Bank has terminated me? According to my advisor at the VR Bank, I spoke with her again yesterday, this is an ordinary termination, i.e. in the Schufa is only that the account was closed. Theoretically, I could have closed it myself. But I don't really believe her, because I think that the Sparkasse sees that the VR Bank has closed my account, or at least they can find out. The problem is simply that if I tell the Sparkasse that my account has been terminated, it makes a bad impression. If I lie and say that I cancelled it myself and they find out that it was cancelled by VR Bank, it makes an even worse impression and I can probably forget about opening an account.
Oh well, I had also asked my bank advisor yesterday about the reason for the cancellation, but she didn't give me an answer to that. She only said that the bank has the right to cancel the account at any time with 2 months notice.
For your help/advice I thank you now already!

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derzweifel
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After Big Win account cancellation of the VR Bank

29th Apr. 2020, at 02:04 pm CEST#2
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zocker0815
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After Big Win account cancellation of the VR Bank

29th Apr. 2020, at 02:05 pm CEST#3
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then just tell the truth at the new bank

your bank has given you notice for no reason - which is what your advisor told you, so you have not lied either

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cbz490
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After Big Win account cancellation of the VR Bank

29th Apr. 2020, at 02:07 pm CEST#4
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cbz490 This article or paragraph describes the situation in Germany. Help to describe the situation in other countries.

The term Jedermann-Konto (also Basiskonto) describes a current account that can be opened by anyone at a bank of their choice in order to make cashless payments. This right was introduced in Germany with the postal check service in 1909. However, since the privatization of Postbank in 1995, there has no longer been any legal entitlement.
in 1995, a current account for everyone was initially defined in Germany by the Central Credit Committee (ZKA) - today The German Banking Industry (DK) - only as a voluntary commitment by the credit institutions. Accordingly, it was a current account on a credit basis (colloquially Guthabenkonto), for which no overdraft was permitted. The purpose of the voluntary commitment was apparently to prevent a general right to a current account for everyone that was planned by the legislator at the time.
Since June 19, 2016[1] [2] [3], Section 31 of the Payment Accounts Act (ZKG), which implements the EU's Payment Accounts Directive, has established a legal right for all consumers who are legally resident in the European Union, including persons without a fixed abode, asylum seekers and tolerated persons, to maintain a so-called basic account for the execution of payments. Basic account for the execution of payment transactions, including at Privat- and Volks- und Raiffeisenbanken.[4] [5]

EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO AN ACCOUNT!

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A****e

After Big Win account cancellation of the VR Bank

29th Apr. 2020, at 02:23 pm CEST#5
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Just open an account online with a bank then they do not ask further, but would do it immediately and redirect all payments directly, if the but still report to the authorities come the still in retrospect. I currently have a frozen account may the player God be with us and free us from this situation.

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RiverSong
Legend

After Big Win account cancellation of the VR Bank

29th Apr. 2020, at 10:41 pm CEST#6
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they do that a lot?

https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/online-casinos/einzahlung-auszahlung/bank-kundigt-konto-76334/3/

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PS918

After Big Win account cancellation of the VR Bank

30th Apr. 2020, at 06:21 pm CEST#7
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Short update:
I went to the Sparkasse today to open an account. I had the letter of termination with me. The nice consultant told me that it would be no problem to open an account on a credit basis. The problem was that my identity card expired, so unfortunately the account opening was not possible today. I just had passport photos taken and on Monday I have an appointment with us at the municipality. There I will have a temporary identity card issued.
Then I went back to the Volksbank in our village, played dumb and asked politely again why my account had been canceled. The woman told me then after short thinking that the money receipts this month do not correspond to the normal receipts of a salary account. Well what the heck. If the next week with the account opening at the savings bank should work out, it was worth the 20k that my account was canceled😁 I just hope now that the story has no repercussions.

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bruffl
Expert

After Big Win account cancellation of the VR Bank

30th Apr. 2020, at 06:33 pm CEST#8
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PS918 wrote on 04/30/2020 at 6:21 pm: Short update:
I was at the Sparkasse today for an account opening. I had the cancellation letter with me. The nice advisor told me that it would be no problem to open an account on credit basis. The problem was that my identity card expired, so unfortunately the account opening was not possible today. I just had passport photos taken and on Monday I have an appointment with us at the municipality. There I will have a temporary identity card issued.
Then I went back to the Volksbank in our village, played dumb and asked politely again why my account had been canceled. The woman told me then after short thinking that the money receipts this month do not correspond to the normal receipts of a salary account. Well what the heck. If the next week with the account opening at the savings bank should work out, it was worth the 20k that my account was canceled😁 I just hope now that the story has no repercussions.

With the repercussions I consider completely out of the question, since no one will stand with you in front of the door to the one can first no one prove to you that it does not come from sports betting, on the other hand
the prosecutor's office has better things to do
Especially in the current time.

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RiverSong
Legend

After Big Win account cancellation of the VR Bank

30th Apr. 2020, at 06:51 pm CEST#9
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PS918 wrote on 04/30/2020 at 6:21 pm: Short update:
I was at the Sparkasse today for an account opening. I had the cancellation letter with me. The nice advisor told me that it would be no problem to open an account on credit basis. The problem was that my identity card expired, so unfortunately the account opening was not possible today. I just had passport photos taken and on Monday I have an appointment with us at the municipality. There I will have a temporary identity card issued.
Then I went back to the Volksbank in our village, played dumb and asked politely again why my account had been canceled. The woman told me then after short thinking that the money receipts this month do not correspond to the normal receipts of a salary account. Well what the heck. If the next week with the account opening at the savings bank should work out, it was worth the 20k that my account was canceled😁 I just hope now that the story has no repercussions.

clearly they say --> welcome <-- zu dir. denke dass macht jede bank, kundengewinnung ist oberste priorität und sie wissen ja nichts von dir, ausser kurz schufa checken wollen sie es auch nicht, erstmal.

wenn du vorhast weiter zu spielen ist sparkasse meiner meinung nach die schlechteste wahl denn es ist wie die vr eben auch eine volksbank.

ich würde offensiv gleich fragen ob -->sports betting <-- are a problem, maybe then have to approach several banks, but immediately see the reactions and can better assess it yourself.
there are also banks that pass on certain personal conversation contents to certain places (of course you are not told) therefore an anonymous request by tel is perhaps the better choice?</-->

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PS918

After Big Win account cancellation of the VR Bank

30th Apr. 2020, at 08:25 pm CEST#10
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When I get the Sparkasse account, I will no longer make any transactions in this regard. Firstly, the Risk is too great for me to be terminated there and secondly, this online gambling is very dangerous for me, because I am someone who can stop only with difficulty once I have started. I have uploaded two winning pictures. On the second one I had won about 10k on a 15€ bet on legacy of dead, so I ended up with a total of 20k. But I had started that evening with 22k and actually wanted to play down to a maximum of 20k, so according to the motto either 20k or 30k. When I was at 20k, I thought to myself, come to 19k and then pay out. At 19k I had the idea to play down to a maximum of 15k and then finally get out with the money. Well, in the end I was at just over 10k and was very lucky to get back to 20k. I don't know what would have happened if I had gone below 10k...
I was gambling all night, I was exhausted and had a huge loss of control. In the end it went well, but that could have backfired really badly.

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